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21 Apr 2016, 7:59 am

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i watched them and i do not consider them to be very good.
sorry about that. i did not see any surprises in them.


I thought they were hilarious because it perfectly captured the batshit crazy Orwellian mindset of the neurotic Left.

there is no accounting for taste. what you consider perfect, you do with incomplete appraisal and a lower threshold of satisfaction than i do i think.


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Also, AFAIK, Neel Kolhatkar is the only professional comedian/actor/entertainer involved in making those vids. Considering that, I thought the production values were pretty high.

as i imagine you would.

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it will soon be a viable terrorist act to run through the street yelling what you really think about society and thereby reducing large portions of the witnesses/audience to jabbering blobs of bewildered and retortless ("gobsmacked" perhaps) victims of bigotry.


In several European countries, you already can be sentenced for terrorism if only your beliefs are controversial enough.

and who is the forensic expert that can document your beliefs with more authority than you can assert them?


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"breaking news.....15 people have been taken to hospital suffering severe nervous trauma following a verbal assault by a man who ran through a shopping mall in south sydney who fired a volley of unacceptable opinions at passers by in transit.
the man is described as having a "bigoted and prejudiced" face, and has an outdated gait, and anyone who may recognize this man is urged to report him to whoever cares"


FBI Instructs ALL High Schools to Inform On Anti-government Students

well i did not watch it because i could not be bothered.
there is much stuff that comes from the minds of those that i am not interested in that tries to explain their cases.

i am difficult to talk to so i am done now with this topic, but i may reply to the outrider person if i feel inclined to.



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21 Apr 2016, 8:22 am

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i am difficult to talk to so i am done now with this topic, but i may reply to the outrider person if i feel inclined to.


What makes you say that you're difficult to talk to?

I don't get get impression of you at all!



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21 Apr 2016, 8:29 am

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i am difficult to talk to so i am done now with this topic, but i may reply to the outrider person if i feel inclined to.


What makes you say that you're difficult to talk to?

I don't get get impression of you at all!

ok then.



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21 Apr 2016, 8:32 am

He percieves himself to be 'difficult' as he may just come across as 'disagreeable' to others in my opinion. Just a guess.

But quite the contrary! He offers interesting debate.

Maybe B9 just deals with the precise kinds of people in the video - over-sensitive special snowflake types that are a product of the millennial generation, who find his views too contrary to how they want to live.

This doesn't make him disagreeable, it makes him a free-thinker.

And on second thoughts, I too agree the videos were quite generic.

Not really surprising in the least and pushing the exact agenda I expected.

The acting was....mediocre.

With the woman, at least in the second video I believe that was a part of her character - awkwardly cold, prudish, sensitive, and robotic - almost aspie-like.



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21 Apr 2016, 8:35 am

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He percieves himself to be 'difficult' as he may just come across as 'disagreeable' to others in my opinion. Just a guess.

But quite the contrary! He offers interesting debate.

Maybe B9 just deals with the precise kinds of people in the video - over-sensitive special snowflake types that are a product of the millennial generation, who find his views too contrary to how they want to live.

This doesn't make him disagreeable, it makes him a free-thinker.


Exactly.

I find free-thinkers much easier to deal with than others... regardless of how much I agree / disagree with them.

IMO, most people (all except for free-thinkers) are too prejudiced and narrowminded to discuss ANY topic with... at all... in an even remotely productive manner.

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With the woman, at least in the second video I believe that was a part of her character - awkwardly cold, prudish, sensitive, and robotic - almost aspie-like.


I wouldn't be surprised if she actually is an Aspie. In my experience, women with both an interest in politics and an explicitly politically correct opinion usually aren't the most Neurotypically wired women out there. In my experience, they tend to be either Bi-Polar, Autistic, Borderliners or something in between :wink:



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21 Apr 2016, 8:44 am

You seem like an earnest individual.

I think people would respond to you better if you made a couple of jokes, and show evidence that you could laugh at yourself.

If one shows evidence that one can laugh at one's self, one usually gets better responses.

And....within WrongPlanet....maybe respond to some people who are sad. Use your experience to respond to them. Don't put forward any arcane theories which seeks to explain their sadness. Respond with your experience, instead.

An over-earnest person tends to be seen as being threatening in some way.



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21 Apr 2016, 8:55 am

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He percieves himself to be 'difficult' as he may just come across as 'disagreeable' to others in my opinion. Just a guess.

But quite the contrary! He offers interesting debate.

Maybe B9 just deals with the precise kinds of people in the video - over-sensitive special snowflake types that are a product of the millennial generation, who find his views too contrary to how they want to live.

This doesn't make him disagreeable, it makes him a free-thinker.

And on second thoughts, I too agree the videos were quite generic.

Not really surprising in the least and pushing the exact agenda I expected.

The acting was....mediocre.

With the woman, at least in the second video I believe that was a part of her character - awkwardly cold, prudish, sensitive, and robotic - almost aspie-like.

don't worry about it. it's just random stuff.



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21 Apr 2016, 8:59 am

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I think people would respond to you better if you made a couple of jokes, and show evidence that you could laugh at yourself.


I have a very visual mind, so my prefered way of sharing information involves visual imagery (photographs, graphs, videos, ...).

This includes how I express myself humoristically... how I try to add a touch of lightheartedness to my posts, like eg. the use of videos of standup comedians, memes, or quirky pics like this :

Image

As I've received my third warning today for "reposting the same pictures/graphs to multiple threads" because "posting large pictures, or lots of pictures and videos in the same thread" is considered "disruptive to the thread format", that's just one more way I feel restricted in my natural way of expressing myself.

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And....within WrongPlanet....maybe respond to some people who are sad. Use your experience to respond to them. Don't put forward any arcane theories which seeks to explain their sadness. Respond with your experience, instead.


I try... but it's definitely not my strongest skill... especially in internet communities.

The mere fact that body language and intonation are absent in a community like this, makes the use of visual imagery so very important to me, because it allows me to express both light-heartedness and emotional involvement in ways I cannot express with words alone.

You have no idea how suffocating it is to feel restricted even in how your natural way of expressing light-heartedness, just because someone came up with some vague rule that "posting large pictures, or lots of pictures and videos in the same thread" is somehow enough to be considered as spamming and thus isn't allowed.

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An over-earnest person tends to be seen as being threatening in some way.


That's the story of my life.

When I come to an Aspie community, I expect things to be different... because Aspies have a reputation of being over-earnest.

You can imagine my disappointment.



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21 Apr 2016, 9:08 am

Yeah...I understand. You're in a bit of a dilemma. I understand your discomfiture. You want to be accepted for who are you. Understandable.

Perhaps, if people see you more, and you seem consistent, they'll accept you more.

Have you experienced much sadness in your life? If you have, then you have material which can be used to help other sad people. You might start off seeming awkward. But, many times, once you get your feet wet, you learn from your mistakes.

I'm wondering if writing a PM to a Mod explaining yourself like you explained yourself to me would help.

In the past, we've had people posting many visual images who turned out to be trolls.

I bet, if you make a joke about how earnest you are, people might respond favorably. The ability to laugh at one's self is important.

Why do you think people like Spock? Spock was able to laugh at himself. He used his arched eyebrows to good effect. He wasn't all gung-ho about everything.



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21 Apr 2016, 9:42 am

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Perhaps, if people see you more, and you seem consistent, they'll accept you more.


I dunno. I don't feel like investing months in a community where I feel suffocated.

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Have you experienced much sadness in your life?


I've had my fair share of depressions, burn-outs, suicidal thoughts, etc.

I know what is means to be socially isolated.
I know what it means to be disenfranchised.
I know what it means to be discriminated just for being who and what you are.

So yes, I know the true meaning of suffering.

Unfortunately, my experience here is not very different. It's not that this forum makes me depressed or anything, but I do feel discriminated for who and what I am. By being restricted in my way of expressing myself in a multitude of ways, I am a disenfranchised minority in this community. And I feel suffocated due to my inability to freely express myself. So why should I bother? Why should I bother when everyone seems to think I should just accept that and move on?

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If you have, then you have material which can be used to help other sad people. You might start off seeming awkward. But, many times, once you get your feet wet, you learn from your mistakes.


Again, that's hard to do when your natural way of expressing yourself is restricted in a multitude of ways.

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I'm wondering if writing a PM to a Mod explaining yourself like you explained yourself to me would help.


I responded to the moderators who gave me a warning. They did not answer me back.

I also started this thread to raise public awareness of the censorship issue I was experiencing, to learn alternative ways of expressing myself, to better understand the rules, etc.

The thread was closed by the same moderator who gave me two of the three warnings I received, without addressing anything I've said in the thread and without responding to the PM I sent her.

She obviously doesn't care about the feelings or opinions of people who disagree with her prejudices, which is exactly how this kind of people always responds. Quite frankly, I've given up on even trying to talk sense into people like that.

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In the past, we've had people posting many visual images who turned out to be trolls.


I understand why the rules are there. That doesn't make them fair.

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I bet, if you make a joke about how earnest you are, people might respond favorably. The ability to laugh at one's self is important.


I know. But most jokes I can think of require me to post an image or a video... which I'm not allowed to.



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21 Apr 2016, 9:49 am

I don't think this is a lost cause.

All you have to do is talk about your experience of being sad, in your own words. It's quite possible people will respond to your experience. Like: some NT doesn't take me seriously because I'm interested in quantum physics, rather than the latest reality program. Talk about that sort of stuff.

And you are getting on well with at least some people here.

There is this old expression: "You can't please the world."



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21 Apr 2016, 9:55 am

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And you are getting on well with at least some people here.


I do tend to get along well with the kind of people Outrider refered to as "free-thinkers".
I do tend to get along well with the kind of people who are at least moderately unbiased.

I can't relate at all with people who are the opposite of that... people who feel entitled to silence all who disagree with them... who are unwilling to rethink their own prejudices and who just throw insults at you whenever you express an opinion that offends them.

I can't relate to the emotional life of people like that. It's so alien in comparison with my own emotional life, that it's almost like I belong to a different species. Heck, I even relate more with cats, dogs and horses than with people like that.



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21 Apr 2016, 12:54 pm

I'm gonna be perfectly honest here. You're pretty average-looking, maybe even dweebish. Unless you can make up for that with extreme charm, I don't think either the cheerleader type or the Suicide Girls type is accessible to you. Try lowering your standards.

Sorry if I hurt your confidence, but I'm brutally honest, so what can I say?



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21 Apr 2016, 1:15 pm

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I'm gonna be perfectly honest here. You're pretty average-looking, maybe even dweebish. Unless you can make up for that with extreme charm, I don't think either the cheerleader type or the Suicide Girls type is accessible to you. Try lowering your standards.

Sorry if I hurt your confidence, but I'm brutally honest, so what can I say?

Nope. There's being "honest", and then there's just being an "as*hole." The fact that you know how you're behaving suggests the later.

edit: grammar.



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21 Apr 2016, 1:21 pm

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I'm gonna be perfectly honest here. You're pretty average-looking, maybe even dweebish. Unless you can make up for that with extreme charm, I don't think either the cheerleader type or the Suicide Girls type is accessible to you. Try lowering your standards.

Sorry if I hurt your confidence, but I'm brutally honest, so what can I say?

Nope. There's being "honest", and then there's just being an "as*hole." The fact that you know how you're behaving suggests the later.

edit: grammar.


Correction: There's being honest and then there's being brutally honest, which means being honest to the point of being an @$$hole.

Besides, plenty of people have already told the OP that he isn't attractive enough to get either type, so I don't see how my post is that much different.



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21 Apr 2016, 1:22 pm

I've never cared for the cheerleader type.

If the "Suicide Girls" are emo-types, then I find some of the attractive, some of them not so much.