10 year age gap. Can a 29 old date a 19 year old?

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21 Aug 2017, 9:55 am

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21 Aug 2017, 10:08 am

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She's not going to actually tell somebody she likes you! That would embarrass her.

She just might like you---but doesn't want to tell the whole world that.

Women talk to each other about what guys they like all the time.

Plus she's being hanging around the new guy who's taller then me and works in the gun counter a lot so she probably into him.
She's never came over to talk to me befor. No one does.


Well maybe that's cos you're so negative. Would you want to go and talk to someone who is all "woe is me"? I've lost friends for being like that. Trust me, it gets you nowhere. You don't have to be all happy and smiles, just maybe try and not be so glum, and if u still find that few of your coworkers will come and talk to you then just be like "fine. Sod you then. I won't lose sleep over it"


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21 Aug 2017, 10:19 am

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She's not going to actually tell somebody she likes you! That would embarrass her.

She just might like you---but doesn't want to tell the whole world that.

Women talk to each other about what guys they like all the time.

Plus she's being hanging around the new guy who's taller then me and works in the gun counter a lot so she probably into him.
She's never came over to talk to me befor. No one does.


Well maybe that's cos you're so negative. Would you want to go and talk to someone who is all "woe is me"? I've lost friends for being like that. Trust me, it gets you nowhere. You don't have to be all happy and smiles, just maybe try and not be so glum, and if u still find that few of your coworkers will come and talk to you then just be like "fine. Sod you then. I won't lose sleep over it"



Yes I would but I'm not woe is me . I nice and greet people and tell them to have a good day.

No im up in the most hated part of the store away from everyone. But women only approach men they find attractive or ugly ones who make s**t money

My department is like he unwanted step child of the store. I hear the others joke around with each other on the radio, they go eat together and even hangout outside of work and friend each other on Facebook.

Being nice hasn't gotten me anywhere.
Meanwhile I'm stuck up in the back corner of the store all alone.



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21 Aug 2017, 10:21 am

If "being nice" is "what you are," I'd stick with it.

Pretending to be a badass when you're naturally a decent person makes you look foolish.



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21 Aug 2017, 10:34 am

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If "being nice" is "what you are," I'd stick with it.

Pretending to be a badass when you're naturally a decent person makes you look foolish.

Not being a badass just not caring anymore. It's pointless.



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21 Aug 2017, 10:37 am

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She's not going to actually tell somebody she likes you! That would embarrass her.

She just might like you---but doesn't want to tell the whole world that.

Women talk to each other about what guys they like all the time.

Plus she's being hanging around the new guy who's taller then me and works in the gun counter a lot so she probably into him.
She's never came over to talk to me befor. No one does.


Well maybe that's cos you're so negative. Would you want to go and talk to someone who is all "woe is me"? I've lost friends for being like that. Trust me, it gets you nowhere. You don't have to be all happy and smiles, just maybe try and not be so glum, and if u still find that few of your coworkers will come and talk to you then just be like "fine. Sod you then. I won't lose sleep over it"



Yes I would but I'm not woe is me . I nice and greet people and tell them to have a good day.

No im up in the most hated part of the store away from everyone. But women only approach men they find attractive or ugly ones who make s**t money

My department is like he unwanted step child of the store. I hear the others joke around with each other on the radio, they go eat together and even hangout outside of work and friend each other on Facebook.

Being nice hasn't gotten me anywhere.
Meanwhile I'm stuck up in the back corner of the store all alone.


When people be nice it's not to get them anywhere it's cos being moody and miserable makes your life sad. You look like you are being woe is me, cos you're talking about wanting to be dead and calling yourself all the unattractive losers going and complaining about people not wanting to talk to you and blaming it on being a loser. I know how it feels to see yourself as utterly worthless, and it's s**t. No one needs that, and if you keep it up you will end up more and more depressed and may start to get ill. No one can make you start trying to see it differently and being more positive but you should, and maybe keep up the pleasantries you say you've been giving your coworkers, the "mornings" and "how do you dos", only do it unconditionally, cos if you keep expecting something in return for just being a civil human being, you're gonna be disappointed, and to be quite blunt, it's a bit c*nty, that's like self-entitlement, and NO ONE likes self-entitled twits who think the world should revolve around them. I'm sure you're not like that, so why not have a think about it?


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21 Aug 2017, 10:39 am

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It's a lie I'd prefer the truth. I don't smile at people I dislike who people who dislike me. I won't put on a lie because society says to. More people just new to be honest instead of pretending.


Well unfortunately you live in a world where this isn't a lie, it's just being polite so you need to learn from that.

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Also one of the key signs of a girl liking you is if they smile at you


It's not the only indicator and it's not a guaranteed indicator either. And you have to be aware of the context, as said people behave differently around people at work. If you act like every girl who smiles at you wants a romantic relationship then you're going to end up in a lot of trouble, and throwing your toys out of the pram and saying you're not going to be nice to women any more is childish and ridiculous.



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21 Aug 2017, 10:50 am

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In that case - go for it, and if she is interested boink her brains out :D

It's different when you have a job that you will keep for a couple of years.


Well hope to keep the job.

Guessing you mean sex?
I want a relationship. If I did ask her out I'd like it to last long time, care and respect her.
Takes me a while to feel comfortable talking about sex with woman, I need emotional connection.


Don't be simp sly, seriously.

If she wants to have sex and you don't give it to her, she will lose all interest/respect for you.


IDK or she might have more interest/respect for not wanting to rush into sex. I mean this is sort of the reverse, but I have found in my experience having sex right away certainly doesn't keep or make guys interested in a relationship so not sure if it would for women either. If she would lose interest/respect for not having sex right away, than it sounds like she wouldn't be a very good match for Sly.


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21 Aug 2017, 10:51 am

I've only "had sex right away" with a few people. None of them worked out.



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21 Aug 2017, 12:04 pm

There's one other thing to think of. Maybe this girl just finds Sly to be a bit beyond her age range? Not in a creepy way or nothing, maybe she just prefers people her age. Or maybe she isn't looking, although if what Sly said about this girl getting her claws into some other lad there is exactly what's going on then obviously she is looking. Sly, my advice to you on that is to just move on and maybe find someone your own age or older next time. Also, if there is someone who is interested in you then maybe give her a chance, you may not feel attracted to someone at first but you never know you just might hit it off with her, not just cos she is interested! I mean just cos it doesn't happen on first sight, doesn't necessarily mean you won't fall for her later. Don't waste your life or your time on one girl who doesn't want to know, and don't despair too much afterwards, cos you may meet someone much better soon. Keep your head up bro, and learn to enjoy your own company rather than stressing about socialising with your colleagues. Take stuff in to do on your breaks so you don't get bored. And one last thing. You have a job! Some people don't even have that!


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21 Aug 2017, 1:23 pm

I'm sort of going through the a similar situation now, so here's my thought; take it for what it's worth.

You probably don't know this person really well, so you don't actually like her, per say, but rather you like certain qualities that you see in her.

If she's not into you, make a note to yourself about what you liked about her, what it was that attracted you. Then be on the lookout for those same qualities in others.

I guarantee there are other girls out there who possess the same qualities. She's not the only one.

Now to take my own advice :D


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21 Aug 2017, 4:40 pm

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It's a lie I'd prefer the truth. I don't smile at people I dislike who people who dislike me. I won't put on a lie because society says to. More people just new to be honest instead of pretending.


Well unfortunately you live in a world where this isn't a lie, it's just being polite so you need to learn from that.

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Also one of the key signs of a girl liking you is if they smile at you


It's not the only indicator and it's not a guaranteed indicator either. And you have to be aware of the context, as said people behave differently around people at work. If you act like every girl who smiles at you wants a romantic relationship then you're going to end up in a lot of trouble, and throwing your toys out of the pram and saying you're not going to be nice to women any more is childish and ridiculous.


Being polite is a lie. It's faking emotions to make others feel better. That's why people get told to be polite.

Lots of people meet at work how then did they know their so liked them initially?

Never said wanted a relationship I thought maybe she liked me and would be more accepting of a possible date.

It's. Not ridiculous I'm just tired of trying to be nice to people who don't like me and ever will. Tired of trying find love only to be told over and over I'm not good enough and never will then have people ask why I'm single and tell me due to my age I better get to it. Thanks for pointing that it i have a crappy life like I didn't already know people :cry:

The only reason I said hi to her was cause I liked her she never said hi to me. So given she doesn't like my i dont see a reason to say hi to her anymore



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21 Aug 2017, 5:02 pm

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Being polite is a lie. It's faking emotions to make others feel better. That's why people get told to be polite.

Lots of people meet at work how then did they know their so liked them initially?

Never said wanted a relationship I thought maybe she liked me and would be more accepting of a possible date.

It's. Not ridiculous I'm just tired of trying to be nice to people who don't like me and ever will. Tired of trying find love only to be told over and over I'm not good enough and never will then have people ask why I'm single and tell me due to my age I better get to it. Thanks for pointing that it i have a crappy life like I didn't already know people :cry:

The only reason I said hi to her was cause I liked her she never said hi to me. So given she doesn't like my i dont see a reason to say hi to her anymore


They know they like each other from multiple signs, as well as smiling they may go out of their way to find excuses to interact and chat, maybe talking things slowly away from work and into your out-of-work lives. She might do things like play with her hair or make excessive eye contact, if you Google you'll find lots of things people do when they flirt, might be worth studying.

As for ignoring this girl, that's something you can do for sure. However I bet work is the only place you get to actually interact with women right now so instead you could use it as practice. Practice talking to her for a few moments at a time, ask her how her weekend was, how she is finding work, and meaningless cr*p like that. Maybe have some anecdote or intetesting thing to say in your head in advance.

"how are you liking working here?"
"it's ok"
"yeah, it's not the best but it could be worse, I used to work at <insert place> and <insert anecdote about something funny /bad that happened>. However I'm only staying here until <insert your hopes for the near future>"

Those are just examples, if you've never worked anywhere you can talk about then substitute for something else. But it's short convos that might trigger further conversion. She may reciprocate with an anecdote of her own. If she is interested it's more likely she'll reciprocate. If she hates you she won't, but it's still practice. I'm not saying to do this to try and go out with her, but to use as practice for your social skills to try and get more natural. The ultimate goal is really to make her laugh, or at least smile, as if you can make a woman laugh it's half the battle. Don't hang around after either, a few exchanges and leave her alone, especially if they're not reciprocating, as it helps you avoid the creep vibe.

Or you could continue as you are and the chances of you succeeding will be very low.



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21 Aug 2017, 5:16 pm

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There's one other thing to think of. Maybe this girl just finds Sly to be a bit beyond her age range? Not in a creepy way or nothing, maybe she just prefers people her age. Or maybe she isn't looking, although if what Sly said about this girl getting her claws into some other lad there is exactly what's going on then obviously she is looking. Sly, my advice to you on that is to just move on and maybe find someone your own age or older next time. Also, if there is someone who is interested in you then maybe give her a chance, you may not feel attracted to someone at first but you never know you just might hit it off with her, not just cos she is interested! I mean just cos it doesn't happen on first sight, doesn't necessarily mean you won't fall for her later. Don't waste your life or your time on one girl who doesn't want to know, and don't despair too much afterwards, cos you may meet someone much better soon. Keep your head up bro, and learn to enjoy your own company rather than stressing about socialising with your colleagues. Take stuff in to do on your breaks so you don't get bored. And one last thing. You have a job! Some people don't even have that!


Problem with women my age is two fold.1 they pretty much all want a guy with a full time well paying job, his own place, and a car(even those who have non of those) bunch of them are fat which isn't problem for me except they only want thin guys which pisses me off cause they like "I'm fat and I'm not changing so you just have to except me how am but you have to be thin and athletic " can they not see how hypocritical that is?
2. Women my age don't generally work part time retail . The women that get hired at work tend to be 18-25 and going to college. The older women are all married and either are managers or do t stay very long.

Also I should point out of the women who've actually agreed to date me 90% of them were 18-23 probably cause women in that age group are more likely to not care about mans income as much as girls in their 30s or late 20s.

How would I know they if they like me there doesn't appear to be any signs and women don't just tell men they like them. :(

I barely have enough time to use the bathroom and eat on my 12 min break.
I dont know most women don't consider it a job:(



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21 Aug 2017, 5:16 pm

sly279 wrote:
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sly279 wrote:
It's a lie I'd prefer the truth. I don't smile at people I dislike who people who dislike me. I won't put on a lie because society says to. More people just new to be honest instead of pretending.


Well unfortunately you live in a world where this isn't a lie, it's just being polite so you need to learn from that.

sly279 wrote:
Also one of the key signs of a girl liking you is if they smile at you


It's not the only indicator and it's not a guaranteed indicator either. And you have to be aware of the context, as said people behave differently around people at work. If you act like every girl who smiles at you wants a romantic relationship then you're going to end up in a lot of trouble, and throwing your toys out of the pram and saying you're not going to be nice to women any more is childish and ridiculous.


Being polite is a lie. It's faking emotions to make others feel better. That's why people get told to be polite.

Lots of people meet at work how then did they know their so liked them initially?

Never said wanted a relationship I thought maybe she liked me and would be more accepting of a possible date.

It's. Not ridiculous I'm just tired of trying to be nice to people who don't like me and ever will. Tired of trying find love only to be told over and over I'm not good enough and never will then have people ask why I'm single and tell me due to my age I better get to it. Thanks for pointing that it i have a crappy life like I didn't already know people :cry:

The only reason I said hi to her was cause I liked her she never said hi to me. So given she doesn't like my i dont see a reason to say hi to her anymore

This is actually quite revealing. You ONLY said hi because you liked her. Not because you think she's worthy of your being nice, but because you "liked" her, whatever that means. But she doesn't "like" you, whatever that means, and since you aren't getting your way with her you're writing her off?

So...if I understand correctly, a woman's value is only as much as how easy a date she is? Very interesting...



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21 Aug 2017, 8:57 pm

AngelRho wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Chichikov wrote:
sly279 wrote:
It's a lie I'd prefer the truth. I don't smile at people I dislike who people who dislike me. I won't put on a lie because society says to. More people just new to be honest instead of pretending.


Well unfortunately you live in a world where this isn't a lie, it's just being polite so you need to learn from that.

sly279 wrote:
Also one of the key signs of a girl liking you is if they smile at you


It's not the only indicator and it's not a guaranteed indicator either. And you have to be aware of the context, as said people behave differently around people at work. If you act like every girl who smiles at you wants a romantic relationship then you're going to end up in a lot of trouble, and throwing your toys out of the pram and saying you're not going to be nice to women any more is childish and ridiculous.


Being polite is a lie. It's faking emotions to make others feel better. That's why people get told to be polite.

Lots of people meet at work how then did they know their so liked them initially?

Never said wanted a relationship I thought maybe she liked me and would be more accepting of a possible date.

It's. Not ridiculous I'm just tired of trying to be nice to people who don't like me and ever will. Tired of trying find love only to be told over and over I'm not good enough and never will then have people ask why I'm single and tell me due to my age I better get to it. Thanks for pointing that it i have a crappy life like I didn't already know people :cry:

The only reason I said hi to her was cause I liked her she never said hi to me. So given she doesn't like my i dont see a reason to say hi to her anymore

This is actually quite revealing. You ONLY said hi because you liked her. Not because you think she's worthy of your being nice, but because you "liked" her, whatever that means. But she doesn't "like" you, whatever that means, and since you aren't getting your way with her you're writing her off?

So...if I understand correctly, a woman's value is only as much as how easy a date she is? Very interesting...


I'm shy and have social anxiety, also most people don't like me, it's hard for me to say hi and try to talk to people. It's exhausting. I'm not going wast the effort on people who don't like me. Know what's great, working up to say hi to someone and them just ignoring you. Plus given she doesn't like
Me, has never initiated, I'm bettting she finds me saying hi irritating and possible harassing.

When I thought she liked me I tried to overcome my anxiety and say hi to her whenever I saw her and try building up to longer conversations, but it all in vein, and now I'm worse off then I was before.

So perhaps for a extrovert says no hi to everyone single person they see is easy but it's not for me, I save it for people who are work friends or women I'm trying to flirt with via saying hi to show attention.
I don't want to harass her either, she has no interest in saying hi or talking to me like 90% of the other employee.

I talk to 1-3 people at work, maybe another 3-10 will say hi in passing. I learned today they don't want small talk, and likely only say hi cause I always have.

When I started I'd say hi and morning to everyone cause I'm nice and managermetn said we all one big family. Two years later I've accepted that's not true. It's not just me though, people don't talk much to the other main guy in our department. We're cut off. Likemharry potter stuck under the stairs.

Why should I exert myself just t get hurt over and over?

On a side note, most women once they no longer see you as potential bf ghost men. I don't have time or effort to continue to try to communicate with her given it's a dead end and border line harassment.
Though I will say more men then women will say hi in passing. Why do women generally look down in me then men?
The men seem to assume I have had a relationships. Male customers will make jokes about how they can't buy stuff without their wife's permission and be like you know what it's like. I dont know what to say as I don't know. Never will know.
Works depressing. Most the women look Down in me and I'm tired of being constantly reminded I'm doomed to be alone and if what I'm missing

Also like. Means had a crush on her, despite being bigger, she's pretty, she's shy which is cute. She seemed nice from what people said. And she didn't just ignore me like other women do.

I haven't done anything most men and women don't do.i dont think I should feel guilty for having a crush and attempting to get to know said crush and ask her out. Billions of people do that every day a lot more agrressively and faster. Most guys would askedmher out day one.