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02 May 2018, 2:02 pm

You guys are right... How could I forget all the women who threw their panties after Isaac Newton, Nikola Tesla and Niels Bohr...



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02 May 2018, 2:09 pm

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Eco has a point, which is, women are simply not attracted to intelligence, which is a true point, they just aren't.

I'm a woman, and I'm highly attracted to intelligence. But I'm not attracted to someone who engineers his personality to get laid.


Well obviously you are lying, as NO WOMEN ANYWHERE EVER are attracted to intelligence. Why do you have to lie about what you're attracted to? :lol:


I think part of the disagreement (not all of it) about what women are or are not attracted to is due to talking about different kinds of attraction. Boo and some other guys seem to be talking exclusively about sexual attraction and only the part of it that determines who you have a one-night-stand with if you're into that sort of thing. A lot of women (likely most), talk about what they're attracted to more generally in a partner and don't primarily think of one-night-stands with strangers which is something they may or may not be interested in.

As for intelligence being attractive or not. If it's a stranger and an one-night-stand a woman will have a vague idea about the man's level of intelligence at best and if he doesn't have a severe enough lack of intelligence that it becomes obvious even during that kind of interaction, it probably will not be important.
When it comes to relationships it definitely matters to some women (and no not only because of job-chances). Yet a woman with an IQ of 100 mightn't care much if his IQ is 115 or 140, however she might not be as attracted to a guy with an IQ of 85.


This I actually agree with.

I am saying, that of traits that would predict women being attracted to a man, intelligence would be near the bottom. It seems to me that any claim of this sort of correlation is an indicator of either poor eye sight or bad analytical and observational skills.
Things like social status, income, height, facial features are way way better predictors of this.

Scientists are not drowning in female attention. The only ones who are, are either rich or good looking, or both.
Intelligence on it's own will not grant a man female attention, while good looks and wealth certainly will.



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02 May 2018, 2:13 pm

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Stop it with the sexist generalizations.

There is no single trait to which all men and/or women are attracted/not attracted to. The PUA bullsh_t on this forum is starting to get out of hand, and, if it's not rectified, certain people will be taking a 30 day vacation.

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02 May 2018, 2:55 pm

Closet Genious wrote:
You guys are right... How could I forget all the women who threw their panties after Isaac Newton, Nikola Tesla and Niels Bohr...


Niels Bohr did got married.



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02 May 2018, 3:00 pm

NorthWind wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
BeaArthur wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
Eco has a point, which is, women are simply not attracted to intelligence, which is a true point, they just aren't.

I'm a woman, and I'm highly attracted to intelligence. But I'm not attracted to someone who engineers his personality to get laid.


Well obviously you are lying, as NO WOMEN ANYWHERE EVER are attracted to intelligence. Why do you have to lie about what you're attracted to? :lol:


I think part of the disagreement (not all of it) about what women are or are not attracted to is due to talking about different kinds of attraction. Boo and some other guys seem to be talking exclusively about sexual attraction and only the part of it that determines who you have a one-night-stand with if you're into that sort of thing. A lot of women (likely most), talk about what they're attracted to more generally in a partner and don't primarily think of one-night-stands with strangers which is something they may or may not be interested in.

As for intelligence being attractive or not. If it's a stranger and an one-night-stand a woman will have a vague idea about the man's level of intelligence at best and if he doesn't have a severe enough lack of intelligence that it becomes obvious even during that kind of interaction, it probably will not be important.
When it comes to relationships it definitely matters to some women (and no not only because of job-chances). Yet a woman with an IQ of 100 mightn't care much if his IQ is 115 or 140, however she might not be as attracted to a guy with an IQ of 85.


Umm... no, I was not just assuming one night stands nor I was assuming intelligence isn’t a factor. But I believe you need to at least lust for the person first before you enter a relationship with, am I wrong? Lust first then Love, that’s the natural order.

But I am simply curious about the masturbation question; what about Northwind, do you ever fantasize about smartness materials (or any association to smartness) when you do it?



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02 May 2018, 3:24 pm

Just because scientists are the first stereotype many people recall when talking about intelligence doesn't mean they make the best example. I think the only kind of clearly defined and meaningful intelligence is street smarts, and, coïncidentally, I'm sure it's also a lot sexier than being a scientist. The nerd permanently lost in his thoughts about scientific topics far removed from his immediate surroundings will never have a chance against the shrewd bully who always knows how to sucker-punch him and eat his lunch.

You may think the wise man is the one pointing at the Moon and the one watching his finger is a fool, but guess who'll have the last laugh when the former eventually realizes the golden ring he was wearing at the beginning of his boring, self-important lecture has vanished.


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02 May 2018, 4:40 pm

Closet Genious wrote:
You guys are right... How could I forget all the women who threw their panties after Isaac Newton, Nikola Tesla and Niels Bohr...


They more than likely had aspergers traits. Let’s deal with the elephant in the room, aspergers isn’t really attractive. You might blame money and being a loser or something else, but aspergers makes it much worse. Not all intelligent people are socially inept. That’s extremely black and white thinking using these three as an example.

Only idiots don’t care about a guys intelligence, I can’t relate to their animalistic views on sex and relationships. Some beings are complex, others basic. It’s not just about throwing panties and monkey noises to a lot of people.



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02 May 2018, 4:49 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
You guys are right... How could I forget all the women who threw their panties after Isaac Newton, Nikola Tesla and Niels Bohr...


They more than likely had aspergers traits. Let’s deal with the elephant in the room, aspergers isn’t really attractive. You might blame money and being a loser or something else, but aspergers makes it much worse. Not all intelligent people are socially inept. That’s extremely black and white thinking using these three as an example.

Only idiots don’t care about a guys intelligence, I can’t relate to their animalistic views on sex and relationships. Some beings are complex, others basic. It’s not just about throwing panties and monkey noises to a lot of people.


Apparently the "throwing panties and monkey noises" is all some people can conceptualize when it comes to human sexuality. I think it's sad and a sign of a lack of imagination and as you say a lack of complexity.

It may come down to theory of mind issues, as well. If one's own sexuality is basic and animalistic and involves little imagination and emotional involvement, one may struggle to understand that not everyone else's sexuality is equally as basic and unimaginative. In fact I think this has less to do with gender and more to do with theory of mind struggles.



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02 May 2018, 6:51 pm

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
You guys are right... How could I forget all the women who threw their panties after Isaac Newton, Nikola Tesla and Niels Bohr...


They more than likely had aspergers traits. Let’s deal with the elephant in the room, aspergers isn’t really attractive. You might blame money and being a loser or something else, but aspergers makes it much worse. Not all intelligent people are socially inept. That’s extremely black and white thinking using these three as an example.

Only idiots don’t care about a guys intelligence, I can’t relate to their animalistic views on sex and relationships. Some beings are complex, others basic. It’s not just about throwing panties and monkey noises to a lot of people.


Apparently the "throwing panties and monkey noises" is all some people can conceptualize when it comes to human sexuality. I think it's sad and a sign of a lack of imagination and as you say a lack of complexity.

It may come down to theory of mind issues, as well. If one's own sexuality is basic and animalistic and involves little imagination and emotional involvement, one may struggle to understand that not everyone else's sexuality is equally as basic and unimaginative. In fact I think this has less to do with gender and more to do with theory of mind struggles.


Nailed it.

Basic can relate to basic. It seems as a general consensus, men as a sub-group of humans, seem to be more within the mindset that it’s very easy to get a boner and enjoy rooting people, moreso than women as a general sub-group.

Hence why more men tend to want sex with anyone, their basic needs tend to be met for sex pretty easily.

There are always exceptions to the rule, but I’ve met a lot more men willing to root anyone than women.

The needs and arousal processes aren’t basic for some people. After getting to know people with a brain, the majority of the time, they’re a lot more arousing than some “hot” guy.

Also, do you want to know the number of “hot” guys I fantasise about doing *that*?

Zero.

Zero.



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02 May 2018, 6:58 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
You guys are right... How could I forget all the women who threw their panties after Isaac Newton, Nikola Tesla and Niels Bohr...


They more than likely had aspergers traits. Let’s deal with the elephant in the room, aspergers isn’t really attractive. You might blame money and being a loser or something else, but aspergers makes it much worse. Not all intelligent people are socially inept. That’s extremely black and white thinking using these three as an example.

Only idiots don’t care about a guys intelligence, I can’t relate to their animalistic views on sex and relationships. Some beings are complex, others basic. It’s not just about throwing panties and monkey noises to a lot of people.


Apparently the "throwing panties and monkey noises" is all some people can conceptualize when it comes to human sexuality. I think it's sad and a sign of a lack of imagination and as you say a lack of complexity.

It may come down to theory of mind issues, as well. If one's own sexuality is basic and animalistic and involves little imagination and emotional involvement, one may struggle to understand that not everyone else's sexuality is equally as basic and unimaginative. In fact I think this has less to do with gender and more to do with theory of mind struggles.


Nailed it.

Basic can relate to basic. It seems as a general consensus, men as a sub-group of humans, seem to be more within the mindset that it’s very easy to get a boner and enjoy rooting people, moreso than women as a general sub-group.

Hence why more men tend to want sex with anyone, their basic needs tend to be met for sex pretty easily.

There are always exceptions to the rule, but I’ve met a lot more men willing to root anyone than women.

The needs and arousal processes aren’t basic for some people. After getting to know people with a brain, the majority of the time, they’re a lot more arousing than some “hot” guy.

Also, do you want to know the number of “hot” guys I fantasise about doing *that*?

Zero.

Zero.


Most of my crushes have been guys I really liked to listen to, as in I find it arousing to hear clever guys talk about the subjects they are interested in. People who are intellectually curious can get very passionate about their topics of interest, and when someone is well informed and cares a lot about their interests it can be super "hot", though not in a way some people here can apparently comprehend. Has no one ever heard the term "sapiosexual" before?



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02 May 2018, 7:04 pm

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02 May 2018, 11:23 pm

Something you learn in science, is that to prove any sort of correlation, you have to isolate the independant variables.
If we were to make a list of traits, that correlate most with female attraction.
Intelligence on it's own, loses to good looks or wealth on their own.

Nikola tesla is a good example, because he might be one of the most intelligent humans who have ever lived, but he was poor, and didn't have any sort of social status. Meanwhile I can find plenty examples of men, who have half of tesla's IQ, who have plenty of success with women, because they either have status, or are good looking.



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02 May 2018, 11:46 pm

In interviews at quite a young age, Tesla made it clear that he had no interest in marrying, so how that makes him a good example to you is not clear to me. He thought that marriage was a bad idea for gifted scientists, that it diluted their motivation and was an obstacle to achievements they might otherwise have made.

Tesla was so unique that to use him as to make generalisations - especially about dating, in which he had no interest, seems pointless to me. He did love pigeons though, and formed affectionate bonds with them.



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03 May 2018, 12:42 am

Obviously women aren't attracted to intelligence, because our modern day geniuses have never married. I mean just look at Stephen Hawking, and Bill Gates, and Elon Musk, and....er, um.

Yup, poor geniuses just can't catch a break with the ladies who refuse to be attracted to them. :lol:



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03 May 2018, 12:44 am

I wouldn’t want dirty panties thrown at me by any chance - I have to inspect if they have bidet in their wc first.



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03 May 2018, 12:46 am

This thread might win a prize for tastelessness and tunnel vision, through no fault of the OP, whose genuine questions were drowned out by ensuing prejudice, insensitivity and others wheeling out their predictable barrows for yet another outing.

It would be very refreshing (and surprising) if a spirit of mutual respect turned up in this sub forum. The current ethos of it is continually disappointing in its toxicity.