Women, what attracts you to a man?
Fnord wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
... ❌/❓/✔️ ...
Are you marking off items off as a checklist or are you indicating your disagreement/indecision/agreement?It's my checklist ( how I rate against that list ) , how can I disagree with what a woman has already said they find attractive
_________________
R Tape loading error, 0:1
Hypocrisy is the greatest luxury. Raise the double standard
kraftiekortie wrote:
Most of my girlfriends have been either my height (164 cms or 5 foot 4 3/4), or a little shorter.
Of course, a taller women/shorter man can work. I just don't see this too often. This doesn't mean it can't happen.
Of course, a taller women/shorter man can work. I just don't see this too often. This doesn't mean it can't happen.
My girlfriends are usually shorter than me, although Natalie was nearly the same height as me.
SaveFerris wrote:
Appearance:
o Decent Clothing / Well-Dressed ❌
o Good Grooming ❌
o Good Hygiene ❌
o Good Looks (This definition varies) ❓
Physical:
o Fit & Trim (Not too skinny) ❌
o Healthy (Neither a smoker nor obese) ❌
o Hair (Not bald; no beard or mustache) ✔️❌
o Taller then she ❓
Mental:
o College Education ❌
o Common Interests ❓
o Intellectual / Intelligent ❌✔️
o Knowledgeable ✔️
o Logical ✔️
Emotional:
o Caring / Compassionate ✔️
o Cheerful (Not a whiner or complainer) ✔️
o Funny / Good sense of humor ✔️
o Level-headed / Rational ✔️
o Passionate about something (i.e., cause, hobby, et cetera) ✔️
o Sentimental / Sweet ✔️
o Warm / Empathetic ✔️
Behavioral:
o Accountable / Responsible ✔️
o Civil / Well-mannered ✔️
o Employed (gainfully) ❌
o Honest ✔️
o Interested (In her as a person) ✔️
o Independent lifestyle (Owns a home, car, et cetera) ❌✔️
o Kindness / Mercy ✔️
o Respectful / Tolerant ✔️
o Understanding ✔️
o Unique (Not ordinary) ✔️❌
o Decent Clothing / Well-Dressed ❌
o Good Grooming ❌
o Good Hygiene ❌
o Good Looks (This definition varies) ❓
Physical:
o Fit & Trim (Not too skinny) ❌
o Healthy (Neither a smoker nor obese) ❌
o Hair (Not bald; no beard or mustache) ✔️❌
o Taller then she ❓
Mental:
o College Education ❌
o Common Interests ❓
o Intellectual / Intelligent ❌✔️
o Knowledgeable ✔️
o Logical ✔️
Emotional:
o Caring / Compassionate ✔️
o Cheerful (Not a whiner or complainer) ✔️
o Funny / Good sense of humor ✔️
o Level-headed / Rational ✔️
o Passionate about something (i.e., cause, hobby, et cetera) ✔️
o Sentimental / Sweet ✔️
o Warm / Empathetic ✔️
Behavioral:
o Accountable / Responsible ✔️
o Civil / Well-mannered ✔️
o Employed (gainfully) ❌
o Honest ✔️
o Interested (In her as a person) ✔️
o Independent lifestyle (Owns a home, car, et cetera) ❌✔️
o Kindness / Mercy ✔️
o Respectful / Tolerant ✔️
o Understanding ✔️
o Unique (Not ordinary) ✔️❌
I suspect that is how many ND guys would rate it too.
Even if Fnord claims he made the list by using women's posts, that is so far from a valid method as you can get. Even if he had used a large number of posts, he would only show that women want almost everything from men, and the result wouldn't say anything of interest. Which of course is the current state of it too + that he used a much too small sample of unknown neurotype.
rdos wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
Appearance:
o Decent Clothing / Well-Dressed ❌
o Good Grooming ❌
o Good Hygiene ❌
o Good Looks (This definition varies) ❓
Physical:
o Fit & Trim (Not too skinny) ❌
o Healthy (Neither a smoker nor obese) ❌
o Hair (Not bald; no beard or mustache) ✔️❌
o Taller then she ❓
Mental:
o College Education ❌
o Common Interests ❓
o Intellectual / Intelligent ❌✔️
o Knowledgeable ✔️
o Logical ✔️
Emotional:
o Caring / Compassionate ✔️
o Cheerful (Not a whiner or complainer) ✔️
o Funny / Good sense of humor ✔️
o Level-headed / Rational ✔️
o Passionate about something (i.e., cause, hobby, et cetera) ✔️
o Sentimental / Sweet ✔️
o Warm / Empathetic ✔️
Behavioral:
o Accountable / Responsible ✔️
o Civil / Well-mannered ✔️
o Employed (gainfully) ❌
o Honest ✔️
o Interested (In her as a person) ✔️
o Independent lifestyle (Owns a home, car, et cetera) ❌✔️
o Kindness / Mercy ✔️
o Respectful / Tolerant ✔️
o Understanding ✔️
o Unique (Not ordinary) ✔️❌
o Decent Clothing / Well-Dressed ❌
o Good Grooming ❌
o Good Hygiene ❌
o Good Looks (This definition varies) ❓
Physical:
o Fit & Trim (Not too skinny) ❌
o Healthy (Neither a smoker nor obese) ❌
o Hair (Not bald; no beard or mustache) ✔️❌
o Taller then she ❓
Mental:
o College Education ❌
o Common Interests ❓
o Intellectual / Intelligent ❌✔️
o Knowledgeable ✔️
o Logical ✔️
Emotional:
o Caring / Compassionate ✔️
o Cheerful (Not a whiner or complainer) ✔️
o Funny / Good sense of humor ✔️
o Level-headed / Rational ✔️
o Passionate about something (i.e., cause, hobby, et cetera) ✔️
o Sentimental / Sweet ✔️
o Warm / Empathetic ✔️
Behavioral:
o Accountable / Responsible ✔️
o Civil / Well-mannered ✔️
o Employed (gainfully) ❌
o Honest ✔️
o Interested (In her as a person) ✔️
o Independent lifestyle (Owns a home, car, et cetera) ❌✔️
o Kindness / Mercy ✔️
o Respectful / Tolerant ✔️
o Understanding ✔️
o Unique (Not ordinary) ✔️❌
I suspect that is how many ND guys would rate it too.
Even if Fnord claims he made the list by using women's posts, that is so far from a valid method as you can get. Even if he had used a large number of posts, he would only show that women want almost everything from men, and the result wouldn't say anything of interest. Which of course is the current state of it too + that he used a much too small sample of unknown neurotype.
How ND guys would rate the points or themselves ? I wasn't rating the points dude , it was a checklist of the qualities/inequalities I have on that list i.e. I'm not well dressed.
I am about a 66.6% match - not a good match in my book
I understand your point of view though.
_________________
R Tape loading error, 0:1
Hypocrisy is the greatest luxury. Raise the double standard
SaveFerris wrote:
How ND guys would rate the points or themselves ? I wasn't rating the points dude , it was a checklist of the qualities/inequalities I have on that list i.e. I'm not well dressed.
I meant how guys rated themselves. If many ND women actually think the points about looks & dressing are important is another issue, but I suspect they are not that important.
rdos wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
How ND guys would rate the points or themselves ? I wasn't rating the points dude , it was a checklist of the qualities/inequalities I have on that list i.e. I'm not well dressed.
I meant how guys rated themselves. If many ND women actually think the points about looks & dressing are important is another issue, but I suspect they are not that important.
It's bit shallow if you ask me ( but that's human nature ) - clothes don't maketh the man. If you want a smart trophy BF look elsewhere
_________________
R Tape loading error, 0:1
Hypocrisy is the greatest luxury. Raise the double standard
rdos wrote:
Even if Fnord claims he made the list by using women's posts, that is so far from a valid method as you can get.
Wrong. You are saying that what attracts women to men is not what attracts women to men, when it's is as valid as any method that relies on personal data from the respondents. Are you jealous that I used valid information? Does it bother you that the information came from women? Or are you really just rejecting it because it conflicts with your own small-minded opinion as to what women "should" be attracted to?rdos wrote:
Even if he had used a large number of posts, he would only show that women want almost everything from men...
Evidence, please?rdos wrote:
... and the result wouldn't say anything of interest.
Probably not to you, but other men are very interested in the list; many have thanked me for compiling it.rdos wrote:
Which of course is the current state of it too...
It interests you enough to comment about it.rdos wrote:
... that he used a much too small sample of unknown neurotype.
The list came from the replies that women posted, so the sample reflects the opinions of the women who posted replies. DUH!You obsession with "neurotype" is getting tedious. Your solipsism is also a pain to bear. How can you stand to be so narrow-minded in a world full of differing perspectives and opinions? How can you endure being so intolerant of people who don't have to follow your rules?
Get over yourself. Yours is not the final word on this or any other topic.
sorrowfairiewhisper wrote:
Authenticity
I know women want a man that is honest, not a liar or cheat, womanizer, someone that won't hurt them physically, mentally or emotionally. Having a sense of humour is optional because , what one person may find funny, another wouldn't. It's really about mutual attraction and connection, especially long term but people difer for when it comes to attraction, what one person may find attractive , another wouldn't.
Hmm...I know women want a man that is honest, not a liar or cheat, womanizer, someone that won't hurt them physically, mentally or emotionally. Having a sense of humour is optional because , what one person may find funny, another wouldn't. It's really about mutual attraction and connection, especially long term but people difer for when it comes to attraction, what one person may find attractive , another wouldn't.
A "Good Sense of Humor" is not the same as "Always Joking Around". It means that the person is aware of what his or her audience considers funny or humorous, and acts accordingly. Anyone can tell jokes, but getting others to laugh and have a good time takes a good sense of humor.
The rest boils down to "Honest" and "Caring / Compassionate", with "Authentic / Real", "Faithful", "Gentle / Kind", and "Peaceful" added to the list.
What follows is an updated summary of women's replies to the question "What attracts you to a man?"
(Changes and updates are italicized.)
Appearance:
o Decent Clothing / Well-Dressed
o Good Grooming
o Good Hygiene
o Good Looks (This definition varies)
Physical:
o Fit & Trim (Not too skinny)
o Healthy (Neither a smoker nor obese)
o Hair (Not bald; no beard or mustache)
o Taller then she
Mental:
o College Education
o Common Interests
o Intellectual / Intelligent
o Knowledgeable
o Logical
Emotional:
o Caring / Compassionate
o Cheerful (Not a whiner or complainer)
o Funny / Good sense of humor
o Level-headed / Rational
o Passionate about something (i.e., cause, hobby, et cetera)
o Peaceful
o Sentimental / Sweet
o Warm / Empathetic
Behavioral:
o Accountable / Responsible
o Authentic / Real
o Civil / Well-mannered
o Employed (gainfully)
o Faithful
o Gentle / Kind
o Honest
o Interested (In her as a person)
o Independent lifestyle (i.e., Primary renter or home-owner, Licensed driver, et cetera)
o Kindness / Mercy
o Respectful / Tolerant
o Understanding
o Unique (Not ordinary)
Please note that this is only a compilation of replies, and not a scientifically-derived conclusion to a fully vetted research project. Some people are taking this WAY too seriously.
... and they know who they are ...
Fnord wrote:
Behavioral:
o Authentic / Real
Oh dear , I imagine that might be a difficult one for elder people on the spectrum with a late diagnosis. I've been living a lie for decades.
_________________
R Tape loading error, 0:1
Hypocrisy is the greatest luxury. Raise the double standard
SaveFerris wrote:
rdos wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
How ND guys would rate the points or themselves ? I wasn't rating the points dude , it was a checklist of the qualities/inequalities I have on that list i.e. I'm not well dressed.
I meant how guys rated themselves. If many ND women actually think the points about looks & dressing are important is another issue, but I suspect they are not that important.
It's bit shallow if you ask me ( but that's human nature ) - clothes don't maketh the man. If you want a smart trophy BF look elsewhere
Not really. When I talk about clothing, I'm more referring to being CLEAN and wearing clothes that are appropriate and not ripped, smell, stained, and fit reasonably well.
You have no idea how many guys meet women on a first date and show up looking like they just rolled out of bed, with stained or ripped t-shirts, unwashed messy hair, and smell like they haven't taken a shower in a week. That's not being shallow, that's basic hygiene and good manners. It shows social awareness that they realize they need to at least look halfway presentable.
_________________
That which does not kill us makes us stranger.
SaveFerris wrote:
I get less and less attractive as this thread progresses
Oh, don't worry.[opinion]
I'm pretty sure that it's not an "all or nothing" situation -- you may not have to check off each and every qualification to be attractive, but the more you can honestly check off, the more attractive you may be.
[/opinion]
The_Face_of_Boo
Veteran
Joined: 16 Jun 2010
Age: 42
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 33,095
Location: Beirut, Lebanon.
Luhluhluh wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
rdos wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
How ND guys would rate the points or themselves ? I wasn't rating the points dude , it was a checklist of the qualities/inequalities I have on that list i.e. I'm not well dressed.
I meant how guys rated themselves. If many ND women actually think the points about looks & dressing are important is another issue, but I suspect they are not that important.
It's bit shallow if you ask me ( but that's human nature ) - clothes don't maketh the man. If you want a smart trophy BF look elsewhere
Not really. When I talk about clothing, I'm more referring to being CLEAN and wearing clothes that are appropriate and not ripped, smell, stained, and fit reasonably well.
You have no idea how many guys meet women on a first date and show up looking like they just rolled out of bed, with stained or ripped t-shirts, unwashed messy hair, and smell like they haven't taken a shower in a week. That's not being shallow, that's basic hygiene and good manners. It shows social awareness that they realize they need to at least look halfway presentable.
That happens in comedy movies only.
[Back to reality] Most guys have the common sense to be well groomed on a first date.
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
rdos wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
How ND guys would rate the points or themselves ? I wasn't rating the points dude , it was a checklist of the qualities/inequalities I have on that list i.e. I'm not well dressed.
I meant how guys rated themselves. If many ND women actually think the points about looks & dressing are important is another issue, but I suspect they are not that important.
It's bit shallow if you ask me ( but that's human nature ) - clothes don't maketh the man. If you want a smart trophy BF look elsewhere
Not really. When I talk about clothing, I'm more referring to being CLEAN and wearing clothes that are appropriate and not ripped, smell, stained, and fit reasonably well.
You have no idea how many guys meet women on a first date and show up looking like they just rolled out of bed, with stained or ripped t-shirts, unwashed messy hair, and smell like they haven't taken a shower in a week. That's not being shallow, that's basic hygiene and good manners. It shows social awareness that they realize they need to at least look halfway presentable.
That happens in comedy movies only.
[Back to reality] Most guys have the common sense to be well groomed on a first date.
When was the last time you dated men?
Please stop discounting the things women say. We are the ones with the actual experience dating men.
_________________
That which does not kill us makes us stranger.
Similar Topics | |
---|---|
Women's pronouns |
01 Jan 2025, 2:05 pm |
Women and slaves. |
09 Nov 2024, 6:59 am |
Where to meet women irl who are single |
07 Dec 2024, 12:25 am |
After Trump’s win, some women are considering the 4B movemen |
06 Dec 2024, 2:02 pm |