Bigotry against involuntarily celibate men

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I can show you lots of feminism who are horrible people too should we hate the word feminism and not allow people to use it?
Lots of violent Muslims too guess muslim shouldn’t be used quick go tell feminist and Muslims to stop indentifying as such. Then we can examine any other many words that people use and do bad things. I dont know what words we’ll have left to use when we’re done though.

How many incels have committed violence compared to Muslims who have yet the left says no it’s not as you can’t judge a whole group based on action of the few. They’re just a Bunch of f*****g hypocrites

The term Incel became equivalent to Pro-ISIS , not to Muslim (even though I still think Islam as a religion is bloodthirsty, ISIS didn't come from thin air). So when you say "I am incel", in people's minds it's like you are saying "I am pro ISIS" not as "I can't get a date".


It became equivalent to, for example, pro-SCUM radical feminism, not to feminism.

To many when someone says they’re feminist it means I’m a man hating woman.

Bigot
a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

If the shoe fits.
I’m done with this thread full of bigots and people full of hatred who let a few violent people claim words and thus give said people the power they want. To defeat Terrorist we don’t give into the fear. You’ve all given Into the fear and thus given them what they want. They’ve won you’ve lost congrats.
I personally will not giv in and I will keep identifying as incel until I die or until I get a relationship I won’t let some small violent people take words from me I won’t be afraid I won’t let violent people win

Ps boo those radical feminist don’t cal themselves radical feminist.
So why aren’t you saying radical Incels?
They call them selves feminist and don’t see themselves as radical. You call them radical feminist to try to distinct them from feminism which same could be done for incel, but now it’s more fun to condem all incels as hating lonely single men is fun.

Just as the people who blew up the towers didn’t call themselves radical Muslims they were like this is for radical Islam. Radicals is a word others us not the violent people.

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(Someone help me brush up on my terminology and tell me, is that a "smoke screen"?)

Simple question, are there any incel forums that aren't hate sites?

They are in an emotional way because of their empathy. Their empathy causes them to feel in the way that your feelings are once they read you emotionally. And most of them want a guy who is positive or at least really self-confident and strongly attracted to them and don't makes them feel down. And even if it's hard for many guys they are really right to reject guys who are permanently down and unable to handle their own problems. The major problem is rather the society that generates frustrated, depressed and stressed out people. But once you realize this it's onto you to become more attractive.


Of course but most of them became this way after being in a relationship.

Of course not, but this forum also does not label itself an "Incel" forum. My question was about forums specifically for "Incels," and which use that label.

The term "incel" has acquired a certain meaning----whether it's fair or not.

If I was a virgin, I wouldn't go around calling myself an "incel."

And...yes....people have stupid associations with the word "Muslim," too. They associate a "Muslim" with someone who is obsessed with Jihad or something.

I believe Sabre makes a good point. He's just a guy who has difficulty obtaining romance, and is frustrated. He is not, ideologically, an "incel."

Personally, I have nothing against virgins--either men or women. I don't assume "incompetence" when I think of "virgin." All "virgin" means is that a person hasn't had conventional sex with someone.

Still, you don't know that you won't meet that special person. If it's something you want, work for it. Sure, it's more difficult for people like us, but that doesn't mean it's impossible. You've already given up, and then labelled yourself like you're an oppressed minority.

I'm sympathetic to those who feel lonely, but don't say your are involuntarily celibate unless you're in prison.

But plenty of moderate feminists exist also, and there exist well-known moderate feminist organizations and websites, such as the National Organization for Women. You might not agree with everything there, but you won't find anything remotely resembling the SCUM Manifesto there.


But there are many, many more law-abiding Muslims (and large, well-known law-abiding Muslim organizations) than "violent Muslims."

Tainted words can be either jettisoned or reclaimed. In most cases I think reclaiming is preferable. But reclaiming is feasible only when there exists a sufficient critical mass of reasonable people (including public spokespeople and/or organizations and/or forums) to do the reclaiming.

That's what I'm wondering about in the case of the label "Incel."

And likewise, there are many of us men who are unable to find love who not in anyway hateful, misogynist, or violent. (I'm aware there are just as many women as well, but nobody goes around making generalizations about them being hateful and/or violent.)

My point is not about how or why the term Incel should or shouldn't be applied. The reality is that many of us live with the reality of chronic loneliness. And a growing portion of feminist and SJW media is condemning any and all chronically single men, regardless of whatever labels they do or don't attribute to us, as angry and hateful degenerates who spew misogyny and go on shooting sprees.

Can you provide links to some examples of "feminist and SJW media" saying this about "any and all chronically single men," rather than just about those who call themselves "Incels"?

Here are some articles which perpetuate the stereotype that all involuntarily celibate men are entitled misogynists:

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/p ... re-incels/

https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-a ... 4zbt4.html

This is the Urban Dictionary entry for Incel:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=incel

Here's even a short film perpetuating the stereotype:

https://boingboing.net/2018/09/29/incel ... -film.html

And this is what came up on Google when I did a search for "involuntary celibate". The very first image, accompanying the Wikipedia entry, is of Elliot Rodger. Now imagine doing a Google search for the word "Muslim", and the first thing you see is the face of Osama Bin Laden. Can you imagine the outrage from the Right if that happened?!

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366& ... CMnJc-TG2U

I cannot find it now. But a year or two ago, in a Facebook Asperger's group, someone posted that after a lady he had been spending time with told him she wasn't interested in dating, he decided to longer spend time with her. He did not rage or make demands; he simply moved on. Then a bunch of women started posting about how he thinks he's entitled to sex. Those posts remained unchallenged by the mods. But when I posted that he said and did nothing which indicates any entitlement, and that in actuality it was the women who made the aforementioned posted who think they are entitled to a man's friendship, my post was immediately deleted and received a warning.

I understand that there were a number of individuals who committed atrocious acts of violence because of their Incel status. I am aware there is an uncertain number of individuals who congregate in online message boards to spread toxic and misogynistic ideas. My issue is with the media taking these instances to justify the overgeneralization that any and all men who are involuntarily celibate act in that way. That the only way any man can remain chronically single is if he is a toxic and violent misogynist. We can easily find many instances of individual Muslims carrying out violent terrorist attacks, or individual immigrants robbing convenience stores at gunpoint, or individual African Americans pushing drugs outside of schools; and we are constantly reminded "not all ......" Yet, when it comes to incels, many go out of their ways to make it clear that yes indeed, it is all incels.

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Magnetowasright you didn't answer the question. Those articles are all about incels, the forum using, contributingto hate thread incels, not simply lonely men. You just wasted your time looking up articles about incels when the proof asked for was articles disparaging all lonely men.

I think prostitution is quite important for a healthy society even if nobody really likes it. But it solves a big problem for guys who are really unable to approach women the normal way and there is no need for raping women just for having sex once prostitution exists.