Why don't women ask out men?

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That's just conjectural wishing, just a typical 'the grass is greener on the other side' thing, men may also feel pushy from doing so.

On the other hand though, asking a lot of women out and getting a 0% success rate can have catastrophic effects on your self-esteem, but then women who never get asked out probably experience something similar. Guess it just plain sucks to be the one that nobody wants, no matter which gender you are

Please don't attack members.

I realize many people are romantically/sexually frustrated around here, but don't take it out on each other.

Thanks.

Nailed it!

I'll open my own doors, thank you. I also don't romantically message people who are more than 10 years younger than me. That would be creepy.

This is a myth, women DO ask men out but only if they are good looking

The harsh truth is that most guys dont cut it in the looks department so women dont even bother

ummmm .... not in my experience. The guys I'm crazy about and would love to ask on dates are appealing because I love their personality and their character. We have things in common and things to talk about. They're nice people and I trust them not to hurt me. It has nothing to do with how they look. I could date if I were blind, based on personality. You have to be careful saying "only if they are good looking". Most women aren't that shallow.

This has nothing to do with women being shallow, you're the one whos bribing that up...

Good looking people are often perceived as having better personalities, being more trustworthy, funnier and nicer people...so yeah, maybe you're confusing them being nice and having good personalities for them just being good looking and subconsciously having this effect on you?

These are just observable realities btw, tell me if you want me to dump a few links

There are men on WP whom I'd date, but I've never seen their face at all. I'm not even curious to see what they look like. Looks are just one piece of a puzzle when two people meet. I'm sure you're right that some women care or put more emphasis on it, my only point was to tell you it's not "all women".

Chances are you are just idealizing those guys, I could point you to a video where people are put in a dark room where they couldnt see each others faces to date and after falling in love with their dates personality and "clicking" their faces are revealed and most of the time their attraction is suddenly gone because the idealized picture of that nice person that they have in their heads doesnt match the reality

The thing is, its really unhelpful to think in terms of "not all this or that". Take driving for example, there are individuals who cannot control their lower extremities and thus cannot use the gas/brake pedals to drive, so should we stop making cars with pedals for acceleration/braking because "not all people can use them"? No. The vast majority of people can drive a regular car, therefore if some sort of special accommodation has to be made for a particular person it can be done on an individual basis. Remember that "not everyone is poor", but the vast majority of people dont have enough money to throw around.

What Im trying to say is that its really unhelpful to think in terms of outliers when the norm is so well established

LOL ^

There are so many “outliers” that it can almost be said that “odd” people are the “mainstream,” and the “normal” people are the true “outliers.”

Every person I’ve met has “something wrong” with them.

I feel like too many early 20-somethings make a big deal out of this rather than just focusing on developing themselves and their career. Everybody's always acting like they have something to prove. And I feel that this causes a lot of misdirection on our youth.

But even though I'm 20 myself, ironically, my roommate says I act like I'm 85 or something. Maybe I'm just an old soul, but who knows. But I know for sure that I won't have time to spend chasing women when I have to put my nose to the grindstone and settle down to get a job with my major (won't be electrical engineering fortunately and unfortunately, but a double math and computer science major with a minor in finance) after graduation with my family so I can stay local with them and not having to bother moving out to another place because I'm still pretty lonely and I think that has something to do with my maturity. I play the role as being more of a big brother figure to everyone, especially considering my height and how tall I'll be later on in the future.

Complete and utter bollocks to put it bluntly

And don't post any red pill BS to back up your opinion

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ya, I never liked it and I never will

I hope that in this day and age nobody takes anything that gets posted on their forums seirously, they think confidence matters, most of those guys are selling snakeoil and trying to get you to spend your hard earned money on them