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01 Jan 2019, 11:49 am

Btw, interestingly:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel

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The first online community to use the term "incel" was started in 1993 when a Canadian college student known only by her first name, Alana, created a website in order to discuss her sexual inactivity with others.[9][16][17][18] The website, titled "Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project",[9] was used by people of all genders to share their thoughts and experiences. In 1997, she started a mailing list on the topic that used the abbreviation INVCEL, which was later shortened to "incel", where it was defined as "anybody of any gender who was lonely, had never had sex or who hadn't had a relationship in a long time".[19] During her college career and after, she realized she was queer, and became more comfortable with her identity. She later gave the site to a stranger.[17] When speaking about the website in 2018, Alana said, "It definitely wasn't a bunch of guys blaming women for their problems. That's a pretty sad version of this phenomenon that's happening today. Things have changed in the last 20 years."[19]


That Alana created a new site: https://sites.google.com/view/lovenotanger as a response to that takeover, it sounds good.



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01 Jan 2019, 4:05 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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I'm OK, thanks. :)

Don't worry sly, this is just against those trolls, not men on WP.

They're nuts - this is from their site:

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WOMEN'S RIGHTS HAVE TO BE VIOLATED FOR A SOCIETY TO HAVE A COLLECTIVELY SATISFIED AND PRODUCTIVE MALE POPULATION

SO LONG AS WOMEN HAVE AUTONOMY OVER THEIR OWN BODIES THE MALE POPULATION AS A COLLECTIVE WILL SUFFER, ESPECIALLY MEN ON THE LOWER END OF THE GENETICS TIERS. If we get our way WOMEN WILL HAVE TO f**k MEN THEY DON'T WANT TO f**k


I don’t see the logic In that. Surely if they got their way the alpha rich men would get all the women forced to be with them, and so they’d still be single. Also why would someone want a woman forced to be with them. There’s no love, connection or companionship. Also she’s probably kill them.

Best hope for society is the women who rebel against societies standards. Hopefully their kids will too and their kids. Change is sadly slow and it’ll take generations for the non traditional women numbers to grow.
I hope one day future generations won’t care about if a man works or about his life status and everyone will be loved for who they are not what they are.
I sadly will never see thst future and must live in the horrible society we currently have. I believe such a future is ultimately unavoidable given where we are going with robotics and ai. People will have to adapt.

To be clear I’m for equality for all. No onemshould feel sad for not meeting societies standards or be treated cruelly


That's why we have been telling you not to adopt the Incel label but you were stubbornly insisting that it's simply an abbreviation of involuntary celibate - it's not, it's the name of a very dark cult which cherishes for sex slavery, rape, murdering and gore acts.
If you still insist on that view, then you're an idiot.


I stand by it.
I find it hypocritical to say “ there’s Ben women killed by Incels so they all horrible”
But then to say “ tens of thousands killed by Muslims but don’t blame all Muslims”
“ quite a few illegal immigrants commit, but don’t blame all illegal immigrants”
“Some feminist are crazy but you can’t blame all feminist”
I’d wage for every 1 incel on that forum there’s 20 who aren’t on it and are good people.
It’s same with gun owners
“Some guy show up a school, blame every single gun owner and punish them all”
So we either blame every group for the actions of some or we don’t blame every group for the action of some.
Far less Incels have done stuff then the amount of illegals or Muslims who have.
Why is it ok to blame a hole group in this case?

So I am talking about incel forums which most Incels by definition aren’t even on
They should be called radical Incels, or incel extremists, same as Muslim extremists , feminist extremists, liberal extremists, conservative extremists etc
I’m sure there’s aspie extremists

Edit
Forgot to mention quite a few people describe Islam as a similarly as you just did Incels.
Murder: check, rape of women:check, sex slavery: check, gore acts: check



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01 Jan 2019, 4:07 pm

Just a quick note about "rules."

Awhile ago, I asked Alex what he wanted done about incel/Red Pill/MGTOW crap on his forum since I didn't know his views on such things. He told me to get rid of it and warn/ban members who espoused such views because he was getting tired of the negativity on WP.

As for how I can "know" someone is a troll, I look at the entire body of evidence and make the judgement based on what I think is in the best interest of the forum. Oh, and I've been doing this mod thing for around six years, so I've gotten pretty good at spotting troublemakers.


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01 Jan 2019, 4:09 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Btw, interestingly:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel

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The first online community to use the term "incel" was started in 1993 when a Canadian college student known only by her first name, Alana, created a website in order to discuss her sexual inactivity with others.[9][16][17][18] The website, titled "Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project",[9] was used by people of all genders to share their thoughts and experiences. In 1997, she started a mailing list on the topic that used the abbreviation INVCEL, which was later shortened to "incel", where it was defined as "anybody of any gender who was lonely, had never had sex or who hadn't had a relationship in a long time".[19] During her college career and after, she realized she was queer, and became more comfortable with her identity. She later gave the site to a stranger.[17] When speaking about the website in 2018, Alana said, "It definitely wasn't a bunch of guys blaming women for their problems. That's a pretty sad version of this phenomenon that's happening today. Things have changed in the last 20 years."[19]


That Alana created a new site: https://sites.google.com/view/lovenotanger as a response to that takeover, it sounds good.


When are feminist or Muslims going change there name?
Also are you going stop calling yourself a aspie? I won’t i dont know if the guy was a Nazi or not. It’s sll political correctness defined by a certain side who says so,e groups are exempt. No thanks.

Could you imagine if the mods banned feminist and anyone sharing feminist ideas because there’s feminist extremists out there?



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01 Jan 2019, 4:15 pm

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Just a quick note about "rules."

Awhile ago, I asked Alex what he wanted done about incel/Red Pill/MGTOW crap on his forum since I didn't know his views on such things. He told me to get rid of it and warn/ban members who espoused such views because he was getting tired of the negativity on WP.

As for how I can "know" someone is a troll, I look at the entire body of evidence and make the judgement based on what I think is in the best interest of the forum. Oh, and I've been doing this mod thing for around six years, so I've gotten pretty good at spotting troublemakers.


To be fair and open you’d need to have a expansive definition of what is that’s banned this will probably be a atleast w few lengthy paragraphs.

So it’s not just Incels it’s anyone nit feminist and anyone who shows negatively.
Scary that Alex wants wp cleansed so it appears happy and content like some care bear place.
Will this only apply to sad people or to those who give negative advice like.
Telling someone they need to change is negatively too, so will only kk be left on here?



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01 Jan 2019, 4:15 pm

sly279 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Btw, interestingly:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel

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The first online community to use the term "incel" was started in 1993 when a Canadian college student known only by her first name, Alana, created a website in order to discuss her sexual inactivity with others.[9][16][17][18] The website, titled "Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project",[9] was used by people of all genders to share their thoughts and experiences. In 1997, she started a mailing list on the topic that used the abbreviation INVCEL, which was later shortened to "incel", where it was defined as "anybody of any gender who was lonely, had never had sex or who hadn't had a relationship in a long time".[19] During her college career and after, she realized she was queer, and became more comfortable with her identity. She later gave the site to a stranger.[17] When speaking about the website in 2018, Alana said, "It definitely wasn't a bunch of guys blaming women for their problems. That's a pretty sad version of this phenomenon that's happening today. Things have changed in the last 20 years."[19]


That Alana created a new site: https://sites.google.com/view/lovenotanger as a response to that takeover, it sounds good.


When are feminist or Muslims going change there name?
Also are you going stop calling yourself a aspie? I won’t i dont know if the guy was a Nazi or not. It’s sll political correctness defined by a certain side who says so,e groups are exempt. No thanks.

Could you imagine if the mods banned feminist and anyone sharing feminist ideas because there’s feminist extremists out there?


Not all Muslims call themselves Islamists because the latter term has negative connotations, you get it now?



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01 Jan 2019, 4:20 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Btw, interestingly:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel

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The first online community to use the term "incel" was started in 1993 when a Canadian college student known only by her first name, Alana, created a website in order to discuss her sexual inactivity with others.[9][16][17][18] The website, titled "Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project",[9] was used by people of all genders to share their thoughts and experiences. In 1997, she started a mailing list on the topic that used the abbreviation INVCEL, which was later shortened to "incel", where it was defined as "anybody of any gender who was lonely, had never had sex or who hadn't had a relationship in a long time".[19] During her college career and after, she realized she was queer, and became more comfortable with her identity. She later gave the site to a stranger.[17] When speaking about the website in 2018, Alana said, "It definitely wasn't a bunch of guys blaming women for their problems. That's a pretty sad version of this phenomenon that's happening today. Things have changed in the last 20 years."[19]


That Alana created a new site: https://sites.google.com/view/lovenotanger as a response to that takeover, it sounds good.


When are feminist or Muslims going change there name?
Also are you going stop calling yourself a aspie? I won’t i dont know if the guy was a Nazi or not. It’s sll political correctness defined by a certain side who says so,e groups are exempt. No thanks.

Could you imagine if the mods banned feminist and anyone sharing feminist ideas because there’s feminist extremists out there?


Not all Muslims call themselves Islamists because the latter term has negative connotations, you get it now?

All Islamic extremists call themselves Muslims though.
And thus gives Muslim a negative connotations.

In Washington you can’t say brown bag when referring to paper bags anymore cause thy decided it has a negative connotation. Do you really want to let the them decide what words and terms are ok or not?
You can be pc if you want but I won’t be.polictical correctness is the enemy of freedom of speech.

So the Propper use is incel extremists. Same as feminist extremist and Muslims extremist



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01 Jan 2019, 4:23 pm

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Sly’s not a bad guy. He’s just misguided.

To you
To others with an agenda I’m a racist, misogynistic Nazi bent on destroying the world.



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01 Jan 2019, 4:33 pm

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And of course it was a female who banned me, the male mod before her just warned me to slow down with posting new threads cause he understands

Women legit cant have autism, they are either NT or full blown braindead ret*d, theres no middle ground, even on a forum for aspies they are so f*****g NT

100% theyre just there to attention whore
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I wonder where we got the clearly erroneous idea that he has a problem with women. :lol:

Well you can hardly blame me for the conclusions I came to, not having all the information and all, not my fault I was left out of the loop, if that's what was happening. My immediate response when seeing another man struggling with love and dating is to feel empathy, because I know the struggle. Until it comes to light that they hold repugnant and nonsensical views, I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt


My immediate response to someone expressing sexist generalizations about women and misogynistic redpill ideology is that they are probably a troll and I report them. It's hard to feel empathy for those expressing hatred against you just for having different bits from them. You seem to give the benefit of the doubt to obvious sexist men when it's not warranted. Just about every single post that new user made since he got here contained sexist generalizations about women, about how much "easier" our lives are than mens and how single men's unhappiness is our fault because we're too picky/shallow/stupid/evil/etc, which is redpill BS. He had only made about 30 comments so far, they were all on the subject of dating and gender, and almost all expressed redpill talking points. There was a lot of reason to be suspicious. It should perhaps worry you if you empathize with hatefulness like that so easily.

Alex himself has said he doesn't want that stuff here. If you have a problem with that, take it up with him.



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01 Jan 2019, 4:36 pm

And you get to decide what’s sexist generalizations or hatred against women right?

Wrong planets 4th attempt to purge all single lonely men has began
It’s the 4th feminist causades.



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01 Jan 2019, 4:37 pm

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And you get to decide what’s sexist generalizations or hatred against women right?

Wrong planets 4th attempt to purge all single lonely men has began
It’s the 4th feminist causades.


No, the moderators do. I or someone else makes a report, they decide what to do about it and if it has merit. Like XFilesGeek already explained her instructions from Alex on this subject.

What you added with your edit--I'm not sure what that means, but it sounds like paranoia. If you don't say stuff that incels would say, like that women are hypergamous whores who deserve rape because they won't have sex with short ugly men, for example, then you have nothing to worry about with this issue. I've never seen you say anything like that, so I don't think it's a problem. You're not being persecuted because you are lonely. Misogynists trolls are being asked to leave because they are not welcome, not you. It's not something to get yourself worked up about.



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01 Jan 2019, 4:47 pm

I think I missed this whole thread. Who was banned?
Should I infer I communicated with a legit and angry member of an Incel group?
What the hell.


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01 Jan 2019, 4:52 pm

At present, I've whacked three incel trolls. I can't go into detail because it's against the rules to discuss banned members.


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At present, I've whacked three incel trolls. I can't go into detail because it's against the rules to discuss banned members.


Thank you for the bans.


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01 Jan 2019, 4:56 pm

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I think I missed this whole thread. Who was banned?
Should I infer I communicated with a legit and angry member of an Incel group?
What the hell.


One was mentioned by name earlier in the thread, he's the one I noticed and reported and who apparently got banned. But we're not supposed to talk about specific banned members once that happens.



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01 Jan 2019, 5:03 pm

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
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I think I missed this whole thread. Who was banned?
Should I infer I communicated with a legit and angry member of an Incel group?
What the hell.


One was mentioned by name earlier in the thread, he's the one I noticed and reported and who apparently got banned. But we're not supposed to talk about specific banned members once that happens.


Thank you so much for being proactive! I appreciate your actions and your support very much! I don't usually read the political threads (beyond the occasional dating comment), so I was quite blindsided by what's been happening behind the scenes.

Huge hugs to you and the mods.


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