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cyberdad wrote:
Human social groups tend to form hierarchies based on the ability of some dominating others based on some characteristic e,g. strength, skills, social importance etc. it's built into our DNA.
People are very different.
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Over tens of thousands of years women were subservient but they played an important (one could argue critical) role in maintaining society.
They are at least the same if not even a lot more responsible how the common societies are. You shouldn't forget that they are the ones who teach their children how to be what counts also in islamic countries or other societies you may dislike to relate to.
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In our modern era large masses of men are for the first time capable of the cognitive leap to understand that women are equal in all areas of life.
That's BS. Women aren't as well as men aren't and the people who assume that or demand that are the most likely ones who are disliked by the opposite and their own gender just because not matching your gender role makes you kind of unattractive. There are reasons why people are how they are but it's fine and you can't ignore biology. There are areas that are predominated by women and others by man. Some of them because of their gender specific strengths and some just because of gender specific preferences. Society and people disallow you to treat women and man the same and people don't do it. You'll find always differences even here where all people have the same rights and abilities.
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cyberdad wrote:
Human social groups tend to form hierarchies based on the ability of some dominating others based on some characteristic e,g. strength, skills, social importance etc. it's built into our DNA.
Over tens of thousands of years women were subservient but they played an important (one could argue critical) role in maintaining society. In our modern era large masses of men are for the first time capable of the cognitive leap to understand that women are equal in all areas of life. However we have to be patient. Our interpersonal interactions are a beacon to provide a role model for those choosing to not grow or develop as human beings.
Human cultures (tribes) are a balancing act between hierarchy and equality. Gender in this case is a cultural construct. There have been matriarchal societies. I lived in Japan for 3 years and even through the intense patriarchy there, I could see remnants of the older matriarchal society.
DNA is simply a form of memory as is culture. There is a survival of the fittest BUT that changes based on survival methods in a given species. Humans survive when the tribe is balanced between equality and hierarchy. Personally I don't like hierarchy at all and feel that we are past that tribal stage as a species. Hence "radical egalitarian"
And I am not patient about equality, hence "radical"
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02 Jul 2020, 11:31 am
Chain wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Human social groups tend to form hierarchies based on the ability of some dominating others based on some characteristic e,g. strength, skills, social importance etc. it's built into our DNA.
Over tens of thousands of years women were subservient but they played an important (one could argue critical) role in maintaining society. In our modern era large masses of men are for the first time capable of the cognitive leap to understand that women are equal in all areas of life. However we have to be patient. Our interpersonal interactions are a beacon to provide a role model for those choosing to not grow or develop as human beings.
Human cultures (tribes) are a balancing act between hierarchy and equality. Gender in this case is a cultural construct. There have been matriarchal societies. I lived in Japan for 3 years and even through the intense patriarchy there, I could see remnants of the older matriarchal society.
DNA is simply a form of memory as is culture. There is a survival of the fittest BUT that changes based on survival methods in a given species. Humans survive when the tribe is balanced between equality and hierarchy. Personally I don't like hierarchy at all and feel that we are past that tribal stage as a species. Hence "radical egalitarian"
And I am not patient about equality, hence "radical"
When it comes to DNA as memory, it shows that humans have been mostly patriarchal and polygynous through mankind history: https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-r ... ve-success
There are other evidences of that such such as our sexual dimorphism and.... the written history itself, “Patriarchal” species tend to have violent and territorial males, and... who always waged wars in human history?
Socially speaking humans were always closer to chimps/gorillas, not to bonobos.
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