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24 Sep 2007, 4:54 pm

I don't think this should be viewed in black and white, between "jerks" and "nice guys".

Yes, the more fertile and hormonal females may be more attracted to jerks. We are not assuming that hormonal females are automatically stupid, indeed there are plenty of women who are very fertile yet smart. We are just judging that the most fertile will pair up with the most fertile. However, there is only a certain level of jerkiness that females will go for. Let's face it, all guys are jerks to some extent.

However, you are forgetting that intelligence is important to the human race, and the more intelligent females will likely seek intelligent partners in the end.

The lower end "average joe" jerk, at the bottom of society, is likely to have gone through hardships and may perhaps be more naturally healthy, but at the same time will not carry
But as you go up the socio-economic ladder, intelligence traits will become more prevalent, but resistance to certain afflictions/hardships may decrease(I cannot be sure).

"Jerks" will normally have higher testosterone counts, at healthy levels, but at the same time have decreased intelligence.

Girls of average fertility and varying intelligence will tend to pair up with guys of average fertility, and so on and so forth. The Asperger's Syndrome gene probably isn't the thing that puts girls off, I'd say that it's MUCH more the attitude and quality of character that decides who pairs up with who within the average and lower fertility/gene quality tiers, and also hygiene, ability, and intelligence. No specific order.

That's nature's path, really.

However, nice guys are a real pain for girls, because of their dishonesty and willingness to do anything just to sleep with a girl.
Women want guys who can stand up for themselves, and importantly, support themselves adequately.

And... that's all.


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24 Sep 2007, 5:12 pm

I find it really funny the way people on this forum talk about the opposite sex as though they were animals in a lab.


My new boyfriend is very sweet. The trouble is that I don't think he understands my need for independence and time alone. I don't think he believes I like him, and because of that I'm already starting to like him less. In fact, I am starting to think I should be concentrating on formulating my DJ sets.

I met someone who wasn't a wimp or a jerk recently. Why did he have to live in another bloody city?



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24 Sep 2007, 5:20 pm

sarahstilettos wrote:
I find it really funny the way people on this forum talk about the opposite sex as though they were animals in a lab.


My new boyfriend is very sweet. The trouble is that I don't think he understands my need for independence and time alone. I don't think he believes I like him, and because of that I'm already starting to like him less. In fact, I am starting to think I should be concentrating on formulating my DJ sets.

I met someone who wasn't a wimp or a jerk recently. Why did he have to live in another bloody city?


I was simply making a point, whilst thinking at the same time. I don't usually objectify females as lab creatures. :roll:


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24 Sep 2007, 5:27 pm

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I find it really funny the way people on this forum talk about the opposite sex as though they were animals in a lab.


My new boyfriend is very sweet. The trouble is that I don't think he understands my need for independence and time alone. I don't think he believes I like him, and because of that I'm already starting to like him less. In fact, I am starting to think I should be concentrating on formulating my DJ sets.

I met someone who wasn't a wimp or a jerk recently. Why did he have to live in another bloody city?


I was simply making a point, whilst thinking at the same time. I don't usually objectify females as lab creatures. :roll:


I think it was your choice of language. 'fertile', 'hormonal', 'socio economic', 'testosterone count'.....??? It read a bit like one of my open university essays, and I don't know if you could/should tackle this issue in that kind of way.



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24 Sep 2007, 5:39 pm

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I find it really funny the way people on this forum talk about the opposite sex as though they were animals in a lab.


My new boyfriend is very sweet. The trouble is that I don't think he understands my need for independence and time alone. I don't think he believes I like him, and because of that I'm already starting to like him less. In fact, I am starting to think I should be concentrating on formulating my DJ sets.

I met someone who wasn't a wimp or a jerk recently. Why did he have to live in another bloody city?


I was simply making a point, whilst thinking at the same time. I don't usually objectify females as lab creatures. :roll:


I think it was your choice of language. 'fertile', 'hormonal', 'socio economic', 'testosterone count'.....??? It read a bit like one of my open university essays, and I don't know if you could/should tackle this issue in that kind of way.


That's my personal idea, and I explained it as it came to mind. An idea, not a fact, and I tend to explain more scientific ideas based on what I know, and how it all fits together.


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24 Sep 2007, 5:48 pm

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Crazy girls aren't exactly a holy grail either. There was this one crazy girl in High School that started hitting on me once. We had fairly compatible interests, such as playing Oblivion for 17 hours straight. The only exceptions to our interests were that she abused cocaine and posted 15 million pictured of herself doing stupid sh** at a drunken party on her blog all the time. I didn't want to go for that, so I had to rebuff her advances.


Oh man, you're throwing away a keeper. She sounds like she would be very easy for almost anyone to get into bed.


Which means how many people has she slept with in the past month?

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If she abuses enough drugs she might not even remember it, that sounds perfect. No wonder us aspies have problems with getting girls. :P


I'm not looking to just get laid... If physical stimulation is all I need, then my hand is more than enough... and it doesnt complain back to me either!

What I'm really looking for is that lifetime companion thing... I know about the whole paradox of a physiologically anti-social person looking for a lifetime mate and all that, but it's still the case... I, for one, should know what I want personally more than anyone else...



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24 Sep 2007, 6:58 pm

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hey Kilroy had to kill that robot to escape from prison

man I just don't understand how girls really like me-Nt's more so it seems :o (online)
they seem taken by me and I am not doing anything but telling the truth
I never thought I was sweet or anything :lol:
but the number of "ohh I wish I had a bf like you" I've gotten made me smile-shame they're all so far :cry:
not all girls like jerks...
only the sluts do-and when they grow up they see the jerks are useless and go for the sweet ones-(but the aspies I donnp-I haven't proven that one yet) :x



You're fooling yourself with the "ohh I wish I had a bf like you" if someone says that to you that is the worst thing they can say. It's part of the Nice Guy Syndrome...read guys...there are books on this and it is true. The ones who say this too you like you as if you were their best girlfriend that they can share all their secrets with, but they will almost never marry a nice guy. I know A LOT of nice guys that are perpetually single and not dating. Women do not eventually go for the sweet ones; they marry the jerks. You should see the dumbass jerks my friends are married to. Some of the most intelligent women you could imagine and then you meet their husband and wonder where the hell did they meet that scumbag.

The best thing an Aspie guy can do is learn manners, be clean (which a lot of Aspies are not), learn proper eye contact and conversation, dress similar to other cool guys and not in pansy dress clothes either! and then pursue compassionate NT women. Maybe a nurse or psychoneurologist or social worker.


Did you know that you basically say that all nice guys are "little p*****s" and that all the jerks are strong, muscular men who don't care about women?

I find it kind of strange that you think all men are completely one dimensional. All the strong ones always get the girlfriends because they are masculine. All the weak ones are little sissies because they lack social skills and they are just all around wussies who spent 10 hours a day on the computer.

I love to live in your perfect little world; in which everything was one dimensional and every single guy who spent more than 10 minutes a day on a computer would look like a 15 year old girl.



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24 Sep 2007, 7:49 pm

Anubis wrote:

I was simply making a point, whilst thinking at the same time. I don't usually objectify females as lab creatures. :roll:


But, they are so much fun to experiment on. :P



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24 Sep 2007, 7:55 pm

Yeah experiments is more fun than what I'm doing... trying to find fundamental axioms of the fairer sex...

Though not as fun as proving the parallel postulate...


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24 Sep 2007, 10:05 pm

Heh, have fun with this...though I really don't think you guys will find any answers out of eachother just because, society will treat you all differently even just on what you look like. I don't mean ugly or attractive, I mean who you visually look like you should be and how well your personality and outward demeanor matches that aesthetic (if in fact that's a good thing).

I think part of that as well is how many people can have no idea why some people could think one way on this and others can get irritated as heck trying to defend their points - especially with negative views people have a real hard time not believing them or seeing them as anything other than negative self-fulfilling prophecies unless they've been there themselves.

I think while there's one fundamental truth behind all this though, no one's really going to want to talk about it.



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24 Sep 2007, 11:23 pm

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Though not as fun as proving the parallel postulate...


:o All these pervy posters are rubbing off on Pugly. The end is nigh!


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24 Sep 2007, 11:25 pm

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24 Sep 2007, 11:40 pm

gwenevyn wrote:
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Though not as fun as proving the parallel postulate...


:o All these pervy posters are rubbing off on Pugly. The end is nigh!


Hey now, I've always maintained that the jokes of this sort are better when unexpected. Said just dry enough to almost go unnoticed...

Though this may be my first vaguely descriptive euphemism...


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25 Sep 2007, 3:02 am

calandale wrote:
Anubis wrote:

I was simply making a point, whilst thinking at the same time. I don't usually objectify females as lab creatures. :roll:


But, they are so much fun to experiment on. :P


:lol:


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25 Sep 2007, 7:00 am

sarahstilettos wrote:
I find it really funny the way people on this forum talk about the opposite sex as though they were animals in a lab.


My new boyfriend is very sweet. The trouble is that I don't think he understands my need for independence and time alone. I don't think he believes I like him, and because of that I'm already starting to like him less. In fact, I am starting to think I should be concentrating on formulating my DJ sets.

I met someone who wasn't a wimp or a jerk recently. Why did he have to live in another bloody city?


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I think it was your choice of language. 'fertile', 'hormonal', 'socio economic', 'testosterone count'.....??? It read a bit like one of my open university essays, and I don't know if you could/should tackle this issue in that kind of way.



like it or not , humans are animals .

And your boyfriend should be less sweet and 'more jerk' so you can love him more ...you have just proved Anubis's point :lol:

Btw , the thread was started by a girl ....so go figure.



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25 Sep 2007, 7:05 am

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Btw , the thread was started by a girl ....so go figure.


oh my bad , i was confused between this thread with the Who_I_AM's thread .....mods shouldn't delete these clone threads ?