Why are women so prude about guys touching them?

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31 Aug 2008, 2:24 pm

^What he said.

Is a guy even though in our society it's generally expected that a guy likes to get hit on by women or touched inappropriately...Would men like that sort of contact even by a girl he isn't really interested in?

I have to say no matter how consensual a relationship is, you still have to respect the other partner's wishes if they don't want to be put in a situation that doesn't feel good or right.


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31 Aug 2008, 2:40 pm

MissConstrue wrote:
^What he said.

Is a guy even though in our society it's generally expected that a guy likes to get hit on by women or touched inappropriately...Would men like that sort of contact even by a girl he isn't really interested in?

I have to say no matter how consensual a relationship is, you still have to respect the other partner's wishes if they don't want to be put in a situation that doesn't feel good or right.


I can only speak for myself, but definitely NO, I would not want random women to touch me. Not even if they are "hotties" to use the vocabulary of the OP. I have my personal space and physical integrity and wish to keep those intact. No matter how sexy, if she just touches me without the slightest permission she is not respecting my physical integrity and thus being rude. The few times a girl just touched me without any reason I always found it unpleasant and also told to not do it again (although outed my disapproval always in a polite way)


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31 Aug 2008, 4:15 pm

MissConstrue wrote:
Is a guy even though in our society it's generally expected that a guy likes to get hit on by women or touched inappropriately...Would men like that sort of contact even by a girl he isn't really interested in?


the OP has already said he would not. he has a whole other post about how only fat and ugly girls want him, and that this annoys him, and he would like it to stop, and he just wants the hotties to like him instead.

that's what all the Dr. Irony to the WTF ward was about-- an ugly kid is whining about wanting hot girls, he rejects ugly people himself, and has no desire to touch them, but then thinks females that don't want to touch his ugly little self are evil b*****s.

(i'd SO rather have my eye cut out.)


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31 Aug 2008, 4:30 pm

^OMG, you're right.

I changed my mind, you know what women are people too. This question is comes off as a bit bigoted to me just as the other thread did as I thought it might have some genuine question behind it.

Problem to the OP: you need to get over yourself and either respect women for what they are whether they're ugly or not or just keep on debasing like you do. If you don't want women that are ugly to hit on you, like I said just tell them you're not interested.

In this topic you should already know by now how it feels to have unwanted advances come to you.

I really find the term women being prudes very biased. I'd luv to see a topic about men put in that position if this is your way of saying women don't fit into your "ideal standards."


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31 Aug 2008, 4:32 pm

^It depends on how I would rationalize it on the spot. I would probably come to a conclusion in a split second but there are just to many ways for me to give a clear answer. I obviously wouldn't mind it in a situation of clear mutual interest, but I've been in cases where I was just being lead on before or where even though they were a very attractive individual I didn't like their personality enough to consider it. Also for me personally, I like going in order, because that's what I know and I am comfortable with. When women start skipping steps it throws me for a loop and I don't like that. I've been dancing with someone before who I did like but I haven't even kissed yet and she was grinding very hard into me.


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31 Aug 2008, 4:42 pm

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp1670514.html#1670514

I'm just going to say that this here sounds like generalizations. I have to ask from one of his other posts why it's OK to hit on women in a way that they don't feel is comfortable but why it's not OK if it happens to him.

I don't know the whole story but this topic comes off as a bit debasing. Like I said, I'm sort of getting sick of this generalization a lot of guys on this Love and Dating forum have about women. Why not generalize people on their religion, ethnicity, and so forth if it's OK to call women randomly prudes or crazy. I'm sorry but I'm really getting sick of these threads that make it OK to put women down as whole rather than individually.


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31 Aug 2008, 4:47 pm

MissConstrue wrote:
Like I said, I'm sort of getting sick of this generalization a lot of guys on this Love and Dating forum have about women.


Isn't that generalizing the men?


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31 Aug 2008, 5:26 pm

MissConstrue wrote:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp1670514.html#1670514

I'm just going to say that this here sounds like generalizations. I have to ask from one of his other posts why it's OK to hit on women in a way that they don't feel is comfortable but why it's not OK if it happens to him.

I don't know the whole story but this topic comes off as a bit debasing. Like I said, I'm sort of getting sick of this generalization a lot of guys on this Love and Dating forum have about women. Why not generalize people on their religion, ethnicity, and so forth if it's OK to call women randomly prudes or crazy. I'm sorry but I'm really getting sick of these threads that make it OK to put women down as whole rather than individually.


I agree with you, but please tell me you're not lumping all the guys here in with ProtossX.



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31 Aug 2008, 5:52 pm

^No.


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31 Aug 2008, 6:07 pm

Good. We're not all here to try and shift the blame onto the woman, or indeed, blame anybody.



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31 Aug 2008, 6:10 pm

You have to admit though, there is a lot of generalizing toward women here. Women hardly stand a chance here. :?


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31 Aug 2008, 6:10 pm

No I was just more or less talking about the poster's threads and the contradictions the two have. I have seen many threads with debasing titles such as this but try not to take them as seriously as I did today. Mostly a rant on my part and I apologize. I just get sick of trying to give feedback to this kind of stuff.

This is the thread I was talking about. So this should answere his question.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp1663380.html#1663380


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31 Aug 2008, 6:44 pm

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ah, the twisted psyche of a budding rapist.

after you beat some fat chick to death, (because even lonely fat chicks have some standards, DNForrest, so i'm sure he'd meet with rejection there as well) after you beat or rape some chick for not putting out, i really hope someone mentions this forum to the prosecution, and all your idiot ramblings get entered into evidence.

i hope your cellmate is well endowed.


very good i_Am_andaJoy and very true.

The OP needs serious help...



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31 Aug 2008, 7:03 pm

MissConstrue wrote:
Is a guy even though in our society it's generally expected that a guy likes to get hit on by women or touched inappropriately...Would men like that sort of contact even by a girl he isn't really interested in?

I wouldn't mind, seriously, if someone, whoever it is, woman or man, attractive or unattractive to me, touches me there by accident, it wouldn't be a problem for me, because I would always consider the intention.

In a case like this, knowing when it is intentional and not, seems to be a great problem, mostly for the one who did not meant to do anything (experience)

Now if a woman touches me, even if she is unnatractive there, intentionally, well, it would depend, on one hand, if she just wants to feel a little, perhaps I wouldn't mind that much, on the other hand, one thing to consider would be your own safety, in case it turns out to be a stalker, or perhaps to steal something from you in that way, after some time, you could notice your wallet is missing. :P

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I have to say no matter how consensual a relationship is, you still have to respect the other partner's wishes if they don't want to be put in a situation that doesn't feel good or right.

I agree.


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31 Aug 2008, 7:33 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0S_Ty1Vdpw :lol:

Is it this kind of touching that's inappropriate?


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31 Aug 2008, 7:35 pm

I have had a girl who happened to be an aspie who would not stop touching me, and it made me absolutely miserable. She was not attractive to me, however I once had this girl who was attractive do far more inappropriate things to me which made me even more uncomfortable. I have had women bump into me and all other manner of invasive things to get my attention and I don't have the social skills to handle it properly so when this happens it makes me very uncomfortable. (Can't a guy buy his groceries/eat at a buffet in peace?) I am a heterosexual male but that doesn't mean I want every moderately attractive female to be all over me everywhere I go. I might have a slightly different opinion if I had the proper social skills to deal with that but I don't know.

It isn't a male thing or a female thing, it is a respect thing, both yourself and others. You respect peoples privacy and their personal space, and respect yourself enough to insist they do the same for you. You must also understand that there is the whole physical intimidation factor that men can have over women that rarely happens in reverse. The typical man is physically stronger than the typical woman, it changes the entire dynamics of it. If a woman were to grab a man and try to drag him somewhere he could most likely free himself, this is less likely the case if a man were to do the same thing to a woman.