10 Sep 2008, 10:38 am
Not only did I get girls to respond to this thread discussion, but guys as well it seems. I want to thank LePetitPrince for amusing me by vicariously living through an aspie woman's body. Bravo!
I also want to thank John Hopkins for the humorous cartoon he posted.It seems like you girls pretty want all the same thing: A nice, kind guy who listens to what you have to say and can be sensitive and macho as well. Perhaps there really isn't much of a distinction between what aspiettes want and what neurotypical girls/women want. But I can not help to be extremely humored, at how often girls either go for overly confident guys or jerks. No, those two terms are not synonymous with each other. I can understand to a certain degree, you girls want guys that are exciting and different than the stereotypical nice guy. You've grown up always being nice (I assume for the most part), and you're ready to try something new that won't bore you. You also like guys who are confident in themselves and assertive and open with you. I am stating what I believe you girls want, which may or may not be accurate, but this is merely my interpretation of the matter. Yet I find it hilarious how a lot of you go for the exact opposite often, how ironic. Consider me somewhat cruel, but it is very fitting that for one foolish choice, a lot of girls pay the price of having their emotions hurt. This "having your heart broken" thing is a myth, hearts were meant to be broken to teach us how to pick up the pieces and put them back together.
I think you're being black and white with your theory on women's wants. Seems to me they all want something different.
As far as these theories on nice guys, in what respect should the term "nice guy" be labled and to what degree?
You know I asked the same questions a while back on this forum about what a guy looks for in a girl and they didn't all respond in the same way. OMG, guys want a hot chick but they have to be smart. OMG, guys want a bad girl who is nice.
Sorry but this "conclusion" or "summary" isn't making much sense to me.
10 Sep 2008, 10:44 am
10 Sep 2008, 11:08 am
10 Sep 2008, 11:26 am
MissConstrue,
Touche' No one is exactly like another person. But wouldn't it be easier to generalize people and certain things into one group than to give plausibility to the idea that everyone is different? Isn't that what we do as human beings anyways? "All beautiful girls are likely b*****s and stuck up" "All geeks are boring and nerdy" "All jock type guys are players" "All muslims are radical American-hating terrorists" "All Christians are over zealous, holier-than-thou nuts".
I think we human beings are terribly lazy and often are not willing to look past stereotypes. I generalized most of the comments I read, and say it is true for all them, but it is easier to take a little consensus (sp?). As for my statement about the irony of most girls neglecting nice guys, that is my own embittered view about love and romance and the plight of nice guys everywhere. Like I said, it is easier to validate our own beliefs than to try something new.
As to what term I use the word "nice guy" I would define it as such:
Nice guy (noun)
A male member of the human species who is good natured and kind personality wise. His good nature stems from wanting to be liked by others and for others to like him in return. He typically does not seek confrontation, and chooses in most cases to be civil and polite. Romantically speaking, the nice guy doesn't do well in his given environment, unless he is assertive and respectfully ambitious about what he wants. If this is not in his nature, the nice guy will resort to friendship, over the fear of rejection he might feel because he is naturally nervous around the opposite sex. When resorting to friendship in his native environment, girls will like the nice guy as a friend and a confidant. His female counterparts will not see the nice guy as anything besides a friend, because that is what she thinks he is. His female counterparts will seek confident and assertive males romantically, leaving the nice guy to his natural niche as a friend. The nice guy might become dissapointed over time and despondant. Repeated rejections can make the nice guy see the futility in attempting to initiate romantic interaction with his female mates. Given time, he might become a romantic malcontent.
Romantic Malcontent (noun)
A nice guy who has been rejected many times, and either gives up trying or trys in despseration. In either case, the nice guy still retains his good nature and pleasent mannerisms, but when the subject of love is discussed, he becomes a romantic malcontent, a person constantly dissatisfied with love and romance. The romantic malcontent will rant and rave about the unfairness of love and site his own story to prove his point. Although he finds females attractive physically, he does not trust them romantically and therefore further seperates himself from them, for fear of rejection and because of his dissapointment in them. The romantic malcontent is an anamoly in most nice guys, it only surfaces when discussing the matter of love. At all other times, the romantic malcontent reverts back to his nice guy form. These fluctuations are very normal, and pose no extreme danger to the nice guy. Note that the nice guy is not a misogynist, a man who hates all women, he respects and cares for women who he can trust, but romantically speaking with his female peers, he has little to no faith in them.
Well there you have it 
10 Sep 2008, 11:36 am
Touche' No one is exactly like another person. But wouldn't it be easier to generalize people and certain things into one group than to give plausibility to the idea that everyone is different? Isn't that what we do as human beings anyways? "All beautiful girls are likely b*****s and stuck up" "All geeks are boring and nerdy" "All jock type guys are players" "All muslims are radical American-hating terrorists" "All Christians are over zealous, holier-than-thou nuts".
I think we human beings are terribly lazy and often are not willing to look past stereotypes. I generalized most of the comments I read, and say it is true for all them, but it is easier to take a little consensus (sp?). As for my statement about the irony of most girls neglecting nice guys, that is my own embittered view about love and romance and the plight of nice guys everywhere. Like I said, it is easier to validate our own beliefs than to try something new.
As to what term I use the word "nice guy" I would define it as such:
Nice guy (noun)
A male member of the human species who is good natured and kind personality wise. His good nature stems from wanting to be liked by others and for others to like him in return. He typically does not seek confrontation, and chooses in most cases to be civil and polite. Romantically speaking, the nice guy doesn't do well in his given environment, unless he is assertive and respectfully ambitious about what he wants. If this is not in his nature, the nice guy will resort to friendship, over the fear of rejection he might feel because he is naturally nervous around the opposite sex. When resorting to friendship in his native environment, girls will like the nice guy as a friend and a confidant. His female counterparts will not see the nice guy as anything besides a friend, because that is what she thinks he is. His female counterparts will seek confident and assertive males romantically, leaving the nice guy to his natural niche as a friend. The nice guy might become dissapointed over time and despondant. Repeated rejections can make the nice guy see the futility in attempting to initiate romantic interaction with his female mates. Given time, he might become a romantic malcontent.
Romantic Malcontent (noun)
A nice guy who has been rejected many times, and either gives up trying or trys in despseration. In either case, the nice guy still retains his good nature and pleasent mannerisms, but when the subject of love is discussed, he becomes a romantic malcontent, a person constantly dissatisfied with love and romance. The romantic malcontent will rant and rave about the unfairness of love and site his own story to prove his point. Although he finds females attractive physically, he does not trust them romantically and there fore further seperates himself from them, for fear of rejection. The romantic malcontent is an anamoly in most nice girls, it only surfaces when discussing the matter of love. At all other times, the romantic malcontent reverts back to his nice guy form. These fluctuations are very normal, and pose no extreme danger to the nice guy.
Well there you have it
Well that explains it well enough.
On the other hand, there is irony in most of these threads as far as stereotypes are concerned.
10 Sep 2008, 11:52 am
10 Sep 2008, 12:50 pm
10 Sep 2008, 12:51 pm
I'm soooo going to regret that I posted this.... 
10 Sep 2008, 12:57 pm
