Will any female here actually admit to liking jerks?

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Vern Troyer? Oh yeah, I'd hit that.

Appreciate the acknowledgment. Let me start by saying that there are some things you have mentioned that have merit - it is the extreme to which they are taken and the rigidity of interpretation that are worrisome and at root of issue. There are qualities that will be attractive to a majority of women - confidence, security, strength (in various forms) among them, though not exclusively. However, each of these can be taken too far... confidence becomes cockiness and arrogance; security turns into possessiveness and overbearing; strength mutates into facades when it weakens or fades. Step back from the digital age and into the analog era, and think of the radio band instead of programmable stations. While there may be areas within a spectrum of femininity that are... more dense, stronger signal, however you wish to describe it, there are also myriad points along the line, and off the line. You've said that you are looking for someone who is submissive in a female partner; there is nothing wrong with that, just remember that when someone else asserts their desires, it isn't an attack on you. Your personality is more dominant, but there are a lot of ways to show that... and from what I understand, many of those most effective are the least overt. Acting like a jackass is not going to attract more potential partners than acting like a pushover will; neither are common desirable traits. Acting decisively, when appropriate... acting according to one's self instead of being insincere or artificial... awareness of the opinions of others without giving them too much credence... and the ability to admit being wrong instead of deluding oneself and others with excuses. Mood swings occur on the spectrum, and there are many co-existing conditions which can contribute. Being aware of that volatility is a good first step... you can continue to work on that yourself, as well as being aware of what you need from a partner. Personally, I can have a very irrational temper... thankfully, it tends to run the course quickly now instead of becoming a font for conflict. And to return to what I was saying earlier - find yourself, find the middle ground, and make slight alterations from there. In this manner, one grows into their personality instead of creating something from a stereotype or absolute extreme. Here is where I think your attempts are somewhat flawed, in that you are taking pieces of experiential desire and preconception, and from there creating a predetermined approach instead of working from a center point and finding the niche. In strategy, your approach would not take into account the terrain and the enemy, but instead would take a uniform direction regardless of scenario. In this instead... I think it better to be the clay to mold to the keyhole than the grenade to blow the door open.


M.

No, its just the truth. I'm not saying you would. And thats good, but loads of girls do. Like I said to someone else, look at that new stunner Paul McCartney has. I know he was a Beatle, but he's just a wrinkly old man now.

lol

Maybe you should "one up" or "PWN" your temper. In my book, trying to demonstrate higher "status" through violence or the threat thereof is vile. Learning how to soothe a woman is so much better and much more rewarding.

Well sometimes there's nothing that can be said, to either male or female though. Mainly females. I'd always try to calm the situation or argue and get everything out in the air. Or maybe just get the hell out the house maybe. If I saw a guy hitting a lady, i'd beat the s**t into him. But actually, animals is the worse, if I found someone torturing an animal, i'd probably kill them

I have seen women say this before but in a half-joking manner where they're humorously admitting to their occasional poor taste in men.

Feminism is the opposite of sexism; feminists believe that men and women are equal (at least according to most definitions).

"Arguing" loudly, throwing stuff around, and all that is for trailer trash. There are more constructive ways to handle things.

Oh boy. Do you really believe that?

why am I so obsessed with woman's rights?

and when I was a child I could not go to the Jr Achievement like my brother because Jr Achievement didn't take girls. they do now, but not then. Why not? because women like me were 'obsessed' with "women's rights"

when I was date raped and pregnant and he got off with a slap on the wrist and I was forced out of town to live how ever I could by an outraged family that didn't want me to 'shame the family name.' I wasn't known as a 'single mother' but an "unwed mother" and a "wayward" and my child was an illegitimate bastard. I lived on the streets and I went into labor alone in an emergency ward because I didn't have the money or insurance and my child was taken from me by the State of California because I was indigent. It's not like that now, but it was then. Why? women like me obsessed with "women's rights."

I was fired from jobs because I wouldn't sleep with the boss. It sounds archaic, right? something that you could sue and raise a ruckus about. it is now, but not then. Why? women like me that was 'obsessed' with women's rights. I was paid less than men doing the same job and I could take it and like it. Wasn't against any law, it was the norm. Why did it change? because women like me were 'obsessed' with women's rights.

I worked for change in politics during the Nixon years, and the country was pretty low, then. I worked in progressive causes and was expected to make the coffee and sandwiches for the men. That was 'progress' for women, back then. Mentioning it would bring heaps of scorn that you were 'not dedicated' and 'standing in the way of progress, or worse you will never get a man whining like that. When I see that happening still, I know my work is not yet finished, and the way it changes is for me to change it, just like I have been doing all my years - obsessed with 'women's rights."

there is so much that these days are just taken for granted, that weren't 'granted'. People worked for those changes.

and anyway, what would you have me do, roll over and be helpless?

Merle

If that makes you roll your eyes, you're probably thinking of radical feminism. Liberal feminism is much more mainstream, and the definition is as Zee stated.


Oh, and... thanks, Merle. I admire you.

First you have to impress her/interest her enough to where you and she are 1-on-1. Its so curious; my ex once said "I dont understand you .You can be so sweet, but then you blow up at me like that."

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As a guy I have no issue with the feminist movement because it actually brings out some of the more attractive (for me) qualities in women. I believe the model of a male dominated society in general comes from a misinterpretation of the biblical guideline it is based on.

In any case, I like jerks..........or rather the sound their head make as they hit the pavement after an introduction to my right hand

Im gonna have to disagree with you on that; specifically that it brings about the "more attractive qualities in women" ............it does so my Ass! AFAIC, feminism seems to instill women with a sense of entitlement and righteous arrogance. If women ever hope to truly achieve equality these are the very things they're going to have to GIVE UP. I doubt they ever will but those who do will get A LOT more respect from fella's like me.

There's nothing wrong with women having the same rights as men. If I lived in the 1960s, I would probably be one of those men that campaigned for women's rights, as I come from a very progressive family background...

The problem comes when the people that were campaigning for rights for a particular "second-class" group finally achieve their goals... the people that were once fighting the good fight realize the power and influence they wield, and aside from certain exceptional people such as Martin Luther King, end up getting drunk on their power, and, in the end, go on a f***ing power trip...

Hence you get groups like the Black Panthers and the super-radical branch of feminism...