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The Grand Inquisitor
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23 Nov 2018, 5:50 pm

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I’ve had lots of matches and most rejected me cause my job and income.
Half the Women here say women shouldn’t date loser men like me, so yes having high paid job would change a lot for most men like me.
If I was a doctor most those women would have dated me and odds are one would have been relationship.
Not getting any dates means no chance of relationship.

You don't know for sure that you'd be able to get a relationship with a high-paying job
Do you think your low income is the only reason women won't date you now?

Most those women who rejected me would haves dated me if not for my low paid job, odds are one would have gotten into a relationship as we had quite a bit in common and I met most of their other requirements.

Yes I do as they tell me it is.
They ask what I do for work then tell me sorry they need a man who works a real job
Most the Women on wp say the same thing they won’t date men who don’t have wel paid jobs and tell other women not to as well


What kind of job do you have again? How much do you earn?

If I recall correctly he works a part time min wage retail job.


Yes and as many women have pointed out that’s not a real job, they didn’t even know part time but just retail isn’t considered a real job.

It's a real job to be sure. Just not one you can live off independently, which is the problem. No woman wants to have to foot the bill for you all the time because you can't afford things.



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23 Nov 2018, 8:11 pm

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
sly279 wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
sly279 wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
sly279 wrote:
I’ve had lots of matches and most rejected me cause my job and income.
Half the Women here say women shouldn’t date loser men like me, so yes having high paid job would change a lot for most men like me.
If I was a doctor most those women would have dated me and odds are one would have been relationship.
Not getting any dates means no chance of relationship.

You don't know for sure that you'd be able to get a relationship with a high-paying job
Do you think your low income is the only reason women won't date you now?

Most those women who rejected me would haves dated me if not for my low paid job, odds are one would have gotten into a relationship as we had quite a bit in common and I met most of their other requirements.

Yes I do as they tell me it is.
They ask what I do for work then tell me sorry they need a man who works a real job
Most the Women on wp say the same thing they won’t date men who don’t have wel paid jobs and tell other women not to as well


What kind of job do you have again? How much do you earn?

If I recall correctly he works a part time min wage retail job.


Yes and as many women have pointed out that’s not a real job, they didn’t even know part time but just retail isn’t considered a real job.

It's a real job to be sure. Just not one you can live off independently, which is the problem. No woman wants to have to foot the bill for you all the time because you can't afford things.

And yet millions do live off it.
If a house can live off one person making 24$ an hour it should be able to live off of two making $11 and hour



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23 Nov 2018, 8:26 pm

If millions do it, Sly, then you can be one of the "millions."



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23 Nov 2018, 9:49 pm

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When you have little or no interaction with people and online game 10+ hours per day. It is weird interacting with people when you are an extreme introvert when you are socially awkward, anxious, nervous, depressed and give off weird/creepy vibes due to being uncomfortable in social situations. Normal people are outgoing social butteries and extroverted they have no understand what it is like being an extreme introvert and they can not relate to us.

You should reduce the amount of gaming online per day and think about other ideas.



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23 Nov 2018, 9:56 pm

I have been stuck the way I am for many years and I always had a world is against me attitude on life. I had to fight a lot in my school years and my father was abusive towards me. Since becoming an adult I have not been able to vent my anger out in a physical way, it would be far worse alongside harder guys in prison. The hatred, the anger, the fear, the darkness, it is building up inside me. I do not react to any negative comments like I did in the past. In the past I would lash out swear at people and fight them in retaliation when my feelings were hurt.

I spend most of my time at home: watching TV or on my computer. i have no friends and minimal support from family. I tried therapy and medication but it was dead end that changed nothing. Gaming takes me out of my misery into a virtual reality. I like the RPG and action games where I am one character up against the entire world. I feel empowered that one person can take on the world and make a difference. It is a shame that i can not feel empowered in the real world because I have low self esteem/no confidence to make changes in my life.

I gave up at 16, i dropped out of school only a month into my senior high school and took 2 years off. There were psychiatric hospital visits, therapy and medication and leading to dead end and changed nothing inside my head. I managed to complete senior year at college campus. Then onto Technical college for 2 years, had a job for 18 months. Onto university and completed a business degree back in 2008. That is where my journey ended and I have been stuck on welfare for 10 years, no study, no employment, no training!

I managed to struggle through mainstream school system because the country where I live is absolute useless and has nothing for Autistic people that do not fit into society. I would have done better at a special school without having normal people making my life a living hell.



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24 Nov 2018, 12:54 am

Aspie19828 wrote:
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When you have little or no interaction with people and online game 10+ hours per day. It is weird interacting with people when you are an extreme introvert when you are socially awkward, anxious, nervous, depressed and give off weird/creepy vibes due to being uncomfortable in social situations. Normal people are outgoing social butteries and extroverted they have no understand what it is like being an extreme introvert and they can not relate to us.


Why are you gaming 10+ hours per day?


I game up to 10+ hours per day to take my mind off how bleak my life is and how I do not fit into society. It is hard to fit into society that does not the struggles that Autistic people face in life.

Maybe try not doing that. If too much time gaming by yourself is causing you to be lonely and single, then it could be the cause of your problems rather than the solution.


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24 Nov 2018, 3:41 am

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If millions do it, Sly, then you can be one of the "millions."

Try telling that to women in my state



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24 Nov 2018, 3:46 am

Social isolation can be not just damaging, but can drive someone into a scarcity trap. Some people deprived of close social contact may appear to display behaviors that don’t seem to be doing themselves any favors. It’s easy point at this behaviors and say “no wonder your single,” but the issue is more complicated than that.

The scarcity trap was first found among people in poverty. They appeared to have good short term financial planing, but really bad long term behavior that actually worked to keep them in poverty. People in a hole will often dig themselves deeper. When your brain recognizes a shortage, it focuses on it to the exclusion of proper planing, proper behavior, proper awareness of your surroundings... This has been seen when the shortage is a lack of money, a lack of food, a lack of time, or loneliness. It applies here too. Yelling at people for having a “bad attitude” is about as effective as yelling at the poor for not saving money.



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24 Nov 2018, 4:31 am

Too much gaming (or any in house activity) may be a symptom of social isolation, not the cause of it.

Me as an example, I’ve never turned down a social event for the sake of gaming or watching tv, but If I am staying home all the weekend and no one is inviting to somewhere, then I would end up gaming/tv/browsing/reading most of the time to kill boredom.



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24 Nov 2018, 12:59 pm

I wm sorry because I haven’t found your post stating this, but how old is sly exactly?
I myself am 18 and have no job at all, but attend college and have had no problem with women. However, I am in college. A 50 year old virgin who still works in retail and plays video games all the rest of the time may be more of a problem for most women.

Also, I can confirm that too much gaming is usually to fill a hole in your life. In HS, it took up all my free time due to lack of social acceptance (autism was mostly not a factor, generally intolerance of interracial relationships and jealousy at my academ8c prowess were more common). I gound my home in college, haven’t gamed in months, and only feel a tiny bit of desire to return.



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24 Nov 2018, 1:19 pm

XFilesGeek wrote:
sly279 wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
sly279 wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
sly279 wrote:
I’ve had lots of matches and most rejected me cause my job and income.
Half the Women here say women shouldn’t date loser men like me, so yes having high paid job would change a lot for most men like me.
If I was a doctor most those women would have dated me and odds are one would have been relationship.
Not getting any dates means no chance of relationship.

You don't know for sure that you'd be able to get a relationship with a high-paying job
Do you think your low income is the only reason women won't date you now?

Most those women who rejected me would haves dated me if not for my low paid job, odds are one would have gotten into a relationship as we had quite a bit in common and I met most of their other requirements.

Yes I do as they tell me it is.
They ask what I do for work then tell me sorry they need a man who works a real job
Most the Women on wp say the same thing they won’t date men who don’t have wel paid jobs and tell other women not to as well


What kind of job do you have again? How much do you earn?

If I recall correctly he works a part time min wage retail job.


Yes and as many women have pointed out that’s not a real job, they didn’t even know part time but just retail isn’t considered a real job.


It's not a "real job" only by the standards of b_tches.

Honest work is honest work.


Have you ever considered that, past a certain, those types of women are only ones left single simply because nobody else has a reason to be?



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24 Nov 2018, 4:04 pm

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I wm sorry because I haven’t found your post stating this, but how old is sly exactly?
I myself am 18 and have no job at all, but attend college and have had no problem with women. However, I am in college. A 50 year old virgin who still works in retail and plays video games all the rest of the time may be more of a problem for most women.

Also, I can confirm that too much gaming is usually to fill a hole in your life. In HS, it took up all my free time due to lack of social acceptance (autism was mostly not a factor, generally intolerance of interracial relationships and jealousy at my academ8c prowess were more common). I gound my home in college, haven’t gamed in months, and only feel a tiny bit of desire to return.

Sly is 30 working part-time retail. I'd imagine he doesn't earn enough to move out of his parents' house bc even if he wanted to, hence my sighting that as a problem.



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24 Nov 2018, 4:08 pm

magnetowasright wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
sly279 wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
sly279 wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
sly279 wrote:
I’ve had lots of matches and most rejected me cause my job and income.
Half the Women here say women shouldn’t date loser men like me, so yes having high paid job would change a lot for most men like me.
If I was a doctor most those women would have dated me and odds are one would have been relationship.
Not getting any dates means no chance of relationship.

You don't know for sure that you'd be able to get a relationship with a high-paying job
Do you think your low income is the only reason women won't date you now?

Most those women who rejected me would haves dated me if not for my low paid job, odds are one would have gotten into a relationship as we had quite a bit in common and I met most of their other requirements.

Yes I do as they tell me it is.
They ask what I do for work then tell me sorry they need a man who works a real job
Most the Women on wp say the same thing they won’t date men who don’t have wel paid jobs and tell other women not to as well


What kind of job do you have again? How much do you earn?

If I recall correctly he works a part time min wage retail job.


Yes and as many women have pointed out that’s not a real job, they didn’t even know part time but just retail isn’t considered a real job.


It's not a "real job" only by the standards of b_tches.

Honest work is honest work.


Have you ever considered that, past a certain, those types of women are only ones left single simply because nobody else has a reason to be?

What if the same principle applies to men? The only ones left single are the only ones who have reason to be? Women are half the population and so their pairing up with men will leave roughly even amounts of single men and women, so if the women who are still single are so for good reason, maybe you should consider that the same principle might apply to yourself.



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24 Nov 2018, 4:17 pm

It’s not that people hate involuntary celibates. They hate the incel subculture and how it promotes a toxic, suicidal (sometimes homicidal) worldview. Taking the black pill is no different than a pro-ana forum or a pro self harm forum. The ideology of incel communities are literally glorifying, rationalising and propagating mental illness.

I don’t hate people for wanting to get laid. I hate that these people are brainwashing each other to put all their self worth into getting laid. I hate how these men tell each other how unfuckable they are instead of trying to support each other. I hate that they have convenced themselves that the world is made up of Stacy’s and Chad’s and Normies and that they use words like “femoid” and that they think any of this s**t is based in Science. I hate that they have made a mockery of male mental health issues and how they target vulnerable people who need real support and not to be suibated.

It sucks to be lonely and to be rejected. All humans want to be loved, but the incel community is nothing more than a death cult and honestly, you’re better than that.



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24 Nov 2018, 7:19 pm

magnetowasright wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
sly279 wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
sly279 wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
sly279 wrote:
I’ve had lots of matches and most rejected me cause my job and income.
Half the Women here say women shouldn’t date loser men like me, so yes having high paid job would change a lot for most men like me.
If I was a doctor most those women would have dated me and odds are one would have been relationship.
Not getting any dates means no chance of relationship.

You don't know for sure that you'd be able to get a relationship with a high-paying job
Do you think your low income is the only reason women won't date you now?

Most those women who rejected me would haves dated me if not for my low paid job, odds are one would have gotten into a relationship as we had quite a bit in common and I met most of their other requirements.

Yes I do as they tell me it is.
They ask what I do for work then tell me sorry they need a man who works a real job
Most the Women on wp say the same thing they won’t date men who don’t have wel paid jobs and tell other women not to as well


What kind of job do you have again? How much do you earn?

If I recall correctly he works a part time min wage retail job.


Yes and as many women have pointed out that’s not a real job, they didn’t even know part time but just retail isn’t considered a real job.


It's not a "real job" only by the standards of b_tches.

Honest work is honest work.


Have you ever considered that, past a certain, those types of women are only ones left single simply because nobody else has a reason to be?


Yes, and it's an unfortunate situation. Personally, I'm a dishwasher/janitor, and I wouldn't look down on guys in retail. In fact, I'd admire them because they have way better social skills than me

I can't do "customer service" worth a darn. If I wasn't asexual, I'd totally give Sly a shot.


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25 Nov 2018, 10:42 am

^ Janitors in luxurious blocs make good money, and residents often tip them for extra services.
It’s one of the very few jobs that doesn’t require paying a rent, this is a very nice perk.