I Have Given Up.
Dilbert wrote:
Bataar wrote:
pekkla wrote:
As an aspie older woman who married the wrong guy, I am very impressed with the advice that you should date someone after they are already your friend. The most solid couples I have known (gay and straight) have been couples who have a really close friendship. I am so jealous of them. I wish I had married a friend.
I've heard that too. It sucks for me though as I'm 30 and have never had a single female friend my entire life. All my friendships are centered around various activities/interests and unfortunately, they're dominated by other guys.
Oh you need to fix that. Not necessarily so you could pursue a relationship with a female friend, although that is a possibility under right circumstances, but so you can receive 1st hand perspective that only a woman can give you. I have several female friends, some former colleagues, some fellow athletes, some friends of friends. I love getting together with them. They almost always suggest to set me up with their friends, or offer advice, or we just chat about how hot the guy at Starbucks was or how huge a crush I have on Evangeline Lilly.
I wish I had a way to fix it.
LePetitPrince wrote:
Someone posted a study showing that about only 30% of aspies and less than 1% of autistics get married, can't recall where.
I notice that nobody comments on this.
Janissy wrote:
Humanity is diverse enough that for anything that I insist "women don't want that" some women actually will. But some approaches are so ill-advised that the number of women who would actually respond positively is quite low, which is what makes the approach ill advised.
QFT. Just because the success rate of an approach isn't strictly zero, doesn't mean it's a good approach. For males, this applies to dating websites and the friends-first route. Some people do win the lottery, but that doesn't mean buying lottery tickets is a sensible way to make a living.
LPP is right, there are stages in any society and very few women will so much as give the time of the day to a man substantially less experienced than themselves - there are evolutionary reasons for women to want a man that other women find desirable. If you're male and your experience is way below average for your age and society, your chances are slim to none. So I'm trying to make the most of celibacy, since I'm way behind in experience of women from my home country, let alone the West.
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SINsister wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
Excessive tallness in women is also evolutionary disadvantageous since it would harm the female offspring's change to get a mate later(sine men don't find it attractive)...
Actually, they do - not here in the land of the SFUS (that's short, fat, ugly, and stupid), though, of course. In the lands of my ancestors, however - Latvia and Denmark, specifically - tall women are pretty common, and viewed as highly attractive. I have several male mates overseas in the Netherlands, Scandinavia, and Germany, and all of them have expressed disbelief and outright horror at the way I've been treated all my life because of my height. They can't fathom it, because to them, it's unthinkable. According to my European pals, at 6'1", I'd not be out of the ordinary in their countries, and would probably attract more male attention than I'd know what to do with (their words). It's all relative. I just wish that there were some way for me to legally move overseas; I'd be gone from this country of Lollipop Guild/Lullabye League troglodytes in a heartbeat.
My ancestry is from south Europe. Everyone in my family is tall.
I like SFUS. Can I use it?
(S) I'm 6-2 which isn't that tall and yet I only know a couple of guys taller than me. So yes we are short, on average?
(F) Americans today weigh on average 25 pounds more than they did in 1960. Holy cow!! !
(U) Well I think we are ugly because we are fat? Very few people are unattractive, unless they are fat. Everyone is beautiful in their own way, unless they stuff hamburgers down their pieholes.
(S) Few people here read books or are interested in history (real history, not history channel) or arts or film (not Hollywood movies). The exception are, of course, hugely popular works like Da Vinci Code. Everyone had read that, because TV had told them to read it, or because their friends read it so it must be a trendy thing to do. And don't get me started on the American public school system. Gawd.
But to get back on topic, yes: tall+smart = (sexy and desirable) and (alienated from most of the society). See what I did there with the brackets?
Dilbert wrote:
Few people here read books or are interested in history (real history, not history channel) or arts or film (not Hollywood movies). The exception are, of course, hugely popular works like Da Vinci Code. Everyone had read that, because TV had told them to read it, or because their friends read it so it must be a trendy thing to do. And don't get me started on the American public school system. Gawd.
There you go again, making up your version of reality without checking the facts. Case in point I am an avid history buff and read the Da Vinci Code because I studied the history of the Knights Templar and the Masons and Scotland, etc. ON MY OWN, before anbody else cared!!
And you above all should know that Aspies do NOT follow trends. We are allergic to that.
Go back to school, dunce, and come back when you have something to say that you did not make up from a dream.
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SINsister wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
Excessive tallness in women is also evolutionary disadvantageous since it would harm the female offspring's change to get a mate later(sine men don't find it attractive)...
Actually, they do - not here in the land of the SFUS (that's short, fat, ugly, and stupid), though, of course. In the lands of my ancestors, however - Latvia and Denmark, specifically - tall women are pretty common, and viewed as highly attractive. I have several male mates overseas in the Netherlands, Scandinavia, and Germany, and all of them have expressed disbelief and outright horror at the way I've been treated all my life because of my height. They can't fathom it, because to them, it's unthinkable. According to my European pals, at 6'1", I'd not be out of the ordinary in their countries, and would probably attract more male attention than I'd know what to do with (their words). It's all relative. I just wish that there were some way for me to legally move overseas; I'd be gone from this country of Lollipop Guild/Lullabye League troglodytes in a heartbeat.
I know some Latvians at my church, the Pugasevich's. The daughter of that family I had a crush on once. She is as tall as me, about 6 foot. Unfortunately, I didn't know she was only 15, the height was confusing. The crush only lasted two months and I didn't let her know, though my girlfriend knew about it at that time (which was before she became my girlfriend of course, not while).
polymathpoolplayer wrote:
Go back to school, dunce, and come back when you have something to say that you did not make up from a dream.
Dude, you're welcome to disagree with any or all of us, but that ad hominem attack was out of line.
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polymathpoolplayer wrote:
Dilbert wrote:
Few people here read books or are interested in history (real history, not history channel) or arts or film (not Hollywood movies). The exception are, of course, hugely popular works like Da Vinci Code. Everyone had read that, because TV had told them to read it, or because their friends read it so it must be a trendy thing to do. And don't get me started on the American public school system. Gawd.
There you go again, making up your version of reality without checking the facts. Case in point I am an avid history buff and read the Da Vinci Code because I studied the history of the Knights Templar and the Masons and Scotland, etc. ON MY OWN, before anbody else cared!!
And you above all should know that Aspies do NOT follow trends. We are allergic to that.
Go back to school, dunce, and come back when you have something to say that you did not make up from a dream.
No.
You've just made a typical aspie faux pas. You read my line, saw the word "here", assumed it referred to the people in this forum, assumed it referred to you specifically, you took it personally, got angry, and lashed out.
I used to do that as well, before I was (self) diagnosed. Now I know better.
It is pretty obvious from the context that "here" referred to the United States of America. Almost no one here reads unless they've been told by Oprah or somesuch to read some trendy book. And even then half the readers would opt for an audio "book" or cliffs notes.... anything to avoid putting in any extra effort such as turning the pages.