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Adam82
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21 Jul 2010, 5:25 am

Such as? ^



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21 Jul 2010, 5:52 am

Well there's being nice in a passive, doormatty, flippy floppy way, letting a woman behave exactly how she wants whenever she likes. But that's not very fair to her or you. And then there's being respectful of her and her needs and her desires, whilst respecting your own.

There's also paying lip service to being 'nice', rather than actually being 'nice'. Being 'nice' (I really dislike this word) means being respectful to yourself and her equally and whole heartedly.

Without observing how you really behave with people, it's difficult to establish what you could be doing 'wrong' or differently. I think the main thing is to experiment. If your current approach isn't working, try some new moves.

I do not believe it's true that being loving and caring and respectful is wrong. That goes for family, friendships, love, dating, or work relationships. I think the problem is that many people don't know what those things really mean. You need to establish how to be nice and caring in a way that gets what you want, and also gives the other party what they want.

I have found that developing a baseline level of kindness to all is a good basis for developing strong relationships all round.


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21 Jul 2010, 6:22 am

Moog wrote:
Well there's being nice in a passive, doormatty, flippy floppy way, letting a woman behave exactly how she wants whenever she likes. But that's not very fair to her or you. And then there's being respectful of her and her needs and her desires, whilst respecting your own.



Yep, this sounds like me. I tend to show affection by just agreeing with everything a woman says, being nice, paying compliments, doing favours, etc. I tend to put myself last.

So you're saying you can be nice without being a pushover? I need to work on this.



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21 Jul 2010, 6:27 am

Adam82 wrote:
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Well there's being nice in a passive, doormatty, flippy floppy way, letting a woman behave exactly how she wants whenever she likes. But that's not very fair to her or you. And then there's being respectful of her and her needs and her desires, whilst respecting your own.



Yep, this sounds like me. I tend to show affection by just agreeing with everything a woman says, being nice, paying compliments, doing favours, etc. I tend to put myself last.

So you're saying you can be nice without being a pushover? I need to work on this.


Exactly! You know, I wish I'd just wrote that instead of doing all that typing now. :lol:

Well, as long as it helped.

But you can still be complimentary and do her favours. Nothing wrong with that, as long as it's not taken to excess. It's mainly the first one. You have to butt heads with her, to an extent. Women tend to like men who have their own minds and can put across what they think in a strong minded, honest, and respectful way.


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21 Jul 2010, 7:37 am

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Where does it say you have to do the emotional commitment? Because tv and movies said so?


What's wrong with that? Only bedding those you are emotionally attached to makes it less likely for you to obtain an STD anyway. I would feel guilty if I had sex with someone I didn't love but maybe that's because I'm a girl. XD


Erisad: Don't worry. So would I, and I'm a guy. Maybe I'm atypical for my gender. In my family, my parents have been married for more than 30 years, my grandparents more than 50. Maybe I get my monogamous values from them. And not from the media, that encourages people to go out and do it with as many people as you possibly can. :roll:


You're not alone, sir. My brother is the exact same way but that's because mom raised him to be a good boy. ^_^

Yeah. My parents divorced after 7 years and I know my grandmother would still be married to her husband were he still alive. I just don't see the value in spontaneous sex with a stranger. For me, the physical pleasure is magnified ten-fold if it's with someone I love. So yeah. Yaaaaay monogamy!


Good on you! I like you. Don't just give it away to some stranger. :)


Thanks, you seem like a sweetheart yourself. I don't plan on giving it away to whomever asks me to. If I did, I would have lost my virginity loooooooooong ago. :)



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21 Jul 2010, 7:40 am

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Hmm, yeah, I'll have to agree with you on that point. Being nice and caring has never got me anywhere in life.


There are right and wrong ways to be 'nice' and caring.


Yes. Moog gave one example of a wrong way. I'll give another example:

A wrong way to be "nice and caring" is to use it as a form of currency that buys affection. I've seen this IRL and on this board. A man will be "nice and caring" to a woman in order to "buy" her affection. When this does not work, he gets mad at her (and at women in general) because she doesn't give him the product he thinks he has purchased with his "niceness". A genuinely nice person will be nice because that's the right way to treat people (all people, not just women you are attracted to), not because it because it buys something.



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21 Jul 2010, 7:47 am

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Where does it say you have to do the emotional commitment? Because tv and movies said so?


Only bedding those you are emotionally attached to makes it less likely for you to obtain an STD anyway.


That's a common misconception.


I just said "less likely." It makes sense in that if you're not bedding every little skank that comes your way, you're more likely to catch something. You can catch something from the one you love but less likely if both people aren't whores. :D



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21 Jul 2010, 8:21 am

Adam82 wrote:
Moog wrote:
Well there's being nice in a passive, doormatty, flippy floppy way, letting a woman behave exactly how she wants whenever she likes. But that's not very fair to her or you. And then there's being respectful of her and her needs and her desires, whilst respecting your own.



Yep, this sounds like me. I tend to show affection by just agreeing with everything a woman says, being nice, paying compliments, doing favours, etc. I tend to put myself last.

So you're saying you can be nice without being a pushover? I need to work on this.


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25 Jul 2010, 9:48 am

lol. So true KaiG. :D



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29 May 2011, 9:53 am

I find it ridiculous that i,23 years old that handsome never had sex,even though many girls were positive to me,like watching me or being friendly in a more sexual way(i am not sure if many know that i am different though).

I am way too handsome never tool had a relationship,i got many girls staring at me while i was not knowing,then i saw that they were looking at me.



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29 May 2011, 1:12 pm

old thread is old.



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29 May 2011, 3:38 pm

It is kind of funny to read my own old posts though. :)


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29 May 2011, 4:32 pm

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Prostitutes? No thanks. If something doesn't happen naturally I'd rather it not happen at all.


Yes, I understand where you're coming from with this. What would be worse, being a virgin or being such a loser that you had to pay a prostitute to lose your virginity? Especially as there are lots of women that like virgins… :)



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29 May 2011, 5:16 pm

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29 May 2011, 10:28 pm

Tequila wrote:
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Prostitutes? No thanks. If something doesn't happen naturally I'd rather it not happen at all.


Yes, I understand where you're coming from with this. What would be worse, being a virgin or being such a loser that you had to pay a prostitute to lose your virginity? Especially as there are lots of women that like virgins… :)



hahahhaha I needed a good laugh.

Let's see:

Bang a hot 20 year old who needs some cash for new purse?

or

Have awkward drunk pity sex with a fat girl you've built a "friendship" with over 2.5 years?

or

Bang a 39 year old who settling for you because the hot guys dont want her anymore?



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29 May 2011, 11:05 pm

Tequila wrote:
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Prostitutes? No thanks. If something doesn't happen naturally I'd rather it not happen at all.


Yes, I understand where you're coming from with this. What would be worse, being a virgin or being such a loser that you had to pay a prostitute to lose your virginity? Especially as there are lots of women that like virgins… :)


BIGGEST LIE EVER.