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because more men cheat? just a theory.

even with child support and alimony, men come out of divorce richer than women on average, by far. so that is no excuse to avoid a single mother for dating.

I personally wouldn't want the stress of someone elses kids and thats what puts me off guys with kids.

It's more like "'TIll I'm bored do we part"...

Men get f****d in divorce court all the time. WIth alimony and child support you are losing a percentage of your take home income.

It's a very valid excuse to avoid single mothers. Lots of a baby daddy drama, awkwardness, money expended that never gets paid back, and the fact that you are always gonna be second fiddle (referencing the very ugly and public drama between two WP members...) and nothing more than a free meal ticket until someone else "more exciting" comes along or the jerkass baby daddy wants to get back together.

I've seen it plenty of times.

RICKY5, mostly I just ignore your s**t as the misguided, stupid, frustrated stuff it is, but this I just couldn't ignore:

I'm not even sure that your statistic (about most divorces being initiated by women) is true but if it is, I'd suspect that it's because the paradigm of marriage has changed and women don't have to put up with s**t like they used to. You break my trust, you're gone. And it's not about the money. As a matter of fact, if she makes more money than he does, then she could be paying both alimony and child support. Yes, that's how it works, I know this FOR A FACT. I'm not sure where you grew up, some sort of SIMS world where the wife was wholly financially dependent on the husband, but that is only like 5% of people now, I'd wager. Even then, in order for her to be awarded alimony, she'd have to demonstrate that she held up her end of the marriage contract, and she'd have to have a damned good attorney because most judges would look at an able-bodied woman and say, "Go get a job, princess." Child support is different, but then it should be. It benefits the child. It's outrageously expensive to raise a child. My daycare is $300 a week, just for ONE CHILD.

I have many friends who've been divorced, some where the wife makes more money (sometimes significantly more) and some where the husband makes more money (sometimes significantly more). In each case (and I don't even live in a communal property state), assets were split according to a fair assessment of their roles in the marriage while they were married. One friend's wife wanted to keep the house, and she has to pay my friend the fair market value for it. He gets to keep his business concerns. Their custody arrangement is simple because they live near each other and because they put the needs of the child first. That's what grownups do.

Just like you don't want to lose your vast fortune should you have the bad luck to actually trust your heart to someone and have it fail, IT ALSO WORKS THE OPPOSITE WAY. If you were to rack up enormous amounts of debt during your marriage, most likely she'd be on the hook for half of it. And it's not like she gets immediate access to your money once the ring goes on her finger. That stuff has to be formalized, and that's a decision that's made by you. Duh.

So kindly stop spouting crap that you have no personal experience of. It helps no one and just makes you look like a troll.

some men occasionally get f*cked over, but women have less money after divcorce, on average. that means that women are far more likely to get f*cked over then men. you are quite incorrect in thinking that men are somehow at a disadvantage. look it up instead of just stating your beliefs, and you will see quite clearly that i am correct.

you are painting all single mothers with quite a nasty brush, and it is based on absolutely no proof or evidence - it is based on some sick stereotypes.

and i know the couple you are talking about on WP, and he comes across as quite a jerk in his posts about her. nothing to do with her having children - more to do with him lacking the emotional maturity to handle a real relationship.

in one enormous study in the UK, men's income INCREASED by 11% after divorce, and women's income DECREASED by 17%:

(link here)

RICKY5, your judgements of divorced women and single mothers are not based in reality.

OK, back on topic...
I think we need a thread about single mothers in the dating world, as that seems to be an issue that stirs up a lot of opinions on here. I didn't know this was such a heated issue on WP.

By "fuss about", do you mean "refuse to wear". I can understand why a man would find wearing a condom unpleasant, I could even understand a woman who didn't like feeling a condom inside her, but a man who refuses to have sex with one on (OR propose a form of sexual intimacy that does not require one anyway) is really inconsiderate.

And I would find sex very pointless if I had no say in it, so then yes, if a guy does not take proper precautions and expects a woman to just accept every whim he has about how the act should be done, then I'd say he got sex, but the woman didn't.

And hale-bopp, I certainly don't believe you're making this up about the normal vs. "weird" women. But I'm just trying to reconcile people like you with guys like "nilescrane", who insist that even an ugly woman with a highly disagreeable personality can get multiple offers for instant sex no matter where in the world she is. Does it maybe come down to initiative on the woman's part? In other words, maybe you are expecting the guys to come to you, whereas those women are actively "advertising" themselves? Oh, and I sent you a question by PM that I think you haven't answered.

And hyperlexian, why is it bad for a guy to have higher standards the longer the relationship (and the more effort he has to put into it)? And why does this show a "fundamental lack of respect"?

the "fundamental lack of respect" is the act referring to someone you have sex with in such detrimental terms. if she is good enough for a man to get naked with, she is good enough to deserve better treatment than that.

you have no integrity or honor at all do you Ricky? Im so glad Im not you.

It burned away long ago.

But seriously you're saying I have no integrity because I don't like drama or getting used?

"No good deed goes unpunished. "

no Im saying you have no integrity as you can see a forum member going through an extremely distressing time and choose to 'put the boot in' aswell. You remind me of the goat herder who betrayed the greeks at sparta, you discust me.

RICKY5 you apparently love getting into the drama - why else involve yourself in the private matters of other members? you seem to have so much hatred on the inside, i hope people can tell on the outside too...

Bio, I urge you to make two profiles on okcupid:

1.)One with a picture of yourself and stating that you're looking for no strings attached sex, and see which women respond.

2,)Find a picture of a very unattractive woman...overweight, really bad looking face...hell, even say on the profile that she has kids and is separated...but that she's looking for sex...and see the kind of guys that respond to her. My friend is above average looking and has sex with these type of women. Even they have options. In fact, one of his former f*** buddies would go up to attractive men on the street and flat-out ask them if they wanted sex later that day, and she'd bring home guys left and right.

In other words, you'd actually be lucky just to get no strings attached with the bottom of the barrel.

It's up to you...you can continue these "I'll find a good looking girl that understands me and gives me pity sex" fantasies, or you can listen to people who have been there and know the dating game better than you do.

No quality woman is going to want a guy that never wants a relationship at any point, seems to hate women and doesn't have super model looks to back it up.

It's true. Men will bang nearly anything with a pulse so even the girls who are bottom of the barrel will have plenty of suitors. You just have to turn off all the lights and pretend it's Megan Fox or something interchangeable celebrity.

Whether those suitors will actually commit to her is highly doubtful but the exchange usually goes commitment and social advancement from the guy in exchange for sex/kids from the girl.

The issue is, as I said above, how in the world do you reconcile this with the women here who say they NEVER get sexual interest in them? Basically, you are saying that these women are below the bottom of the barrel, and I'm sure they would object to that.

What they really mean is they don't get guys who are into them for more than just a "pump and dump".

"For on the seventh day God created Eve and then God created fat girls so that Adam may have something to practice on."

Just kidding!