Why do boys want good-looking girls?

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because I wasn't asked out much but now I look at pictures of myself at 21 or whatever and think it must have been something else, maybe extreme shyness.

Some guys used to say to me "I think you're nice but... you're too shy, you need too much looking after, you don't dress well enough" and so on. That used to really make me feel down but now I realise they were the ones with a problem and I was better off by far without them.

I agree with hale_bopp and others on the evolutionary science. A lot of our core behaviour dates back thousands of years from when it was survival for the fittest. Good looks for a female were a sign of youthfulness and the ability to give birth to a healthy baby. On the other hand, females wanted someone who could provide for the growing child so someone with status and power is likely to have the ability to fill this role, while a level of commitment is also important.

It kinda remains with us in our subconscious. I guess this could be to various degrees in different people, though in general, for males looks are a primary factor. While with females it typically is left further down the list. That's why you see gorgeous looking females with ugly but popular guys.

Of course it's a lot more complicated than this. There are entire books written on the topic.

Personally I think I'd have to at least satisfy my desire for physical attractiveness first. There's nothing like being with your girl and seeing other girls who better catch you eye. Though that's always going to happen anyway and it's entirely natural, but it's worse if you're not physically attracted to the girl you're with. Likewise, kissing a girl without the physical attraction just wouldn't feel right.

I also think that everyone is different as far as what they think looks attractive. There is always going to be those people who are undeniably good looking no matter who you ask and again, going back to females, I think there is even a ratio that plays an important role when applied not only towards hip-to-waist but certain features of the face as well. But outside this realm of 'perfect' looking people there are people who some will find attractive and others won't.

In the end, I wouldn't date a girl who I couldn't get on with though. I would lean towards intelligence and someone with a suitable personality. Forget b*****s and other nasty people (yes, as others have said, a lot of ugly people have those traits, not just good looking people).

Coming back to the original topic though, it's wrong for others to tell you that they think your girlfriend/crush is unattractive. All it shows is the level of their insecurity in life. In fact such behaviour is what females would typically find unattractive (though depending on the person, they may get away with it).

As for makeup, I think it can be used well to enhance a girls looks. Though what I don't like is girls that put so much on that they end up looking like plastic. It makes you think they've got something to hide.

I do not know. Evolution in regards to looking for someone with hips to give good amounts of children and breasts to feed them? I do not know. But I hate being without a girlfriend. Two of my friends are only a year older, yet they have had sex loads. It is annoying.

I want a girl with a cute face because If they are not cute i am preoccupied with my disgust while trying to appreciate them on a deeper level. Very honestly, there are people who i consider cute, people who i consider average, people who i consider ugly, and some people who i consider downright disgusting. I think i fall into the ugly to downright disgusting range compared to the media's image of what a good looking guy is supposed to look like. So just keep in mind that while I am being picky and shallow I am WELL aware of my place in the spectrum of beauty in america.

So honestly the reason why I want a cute looking girl is that if they are not cute, i cannot summon interest in them on a deeper level because i am bored or disgusted by their appearance. If they are average, i am bored by them, if they are ugly, i am displeased by them. So I never pursue their minds more deeply.

This only applies however for untalkative normal people. There have been uncute girls who i've known who are so obviously intellectually interesting that I am predominantly interested in their mind, and could care less about their body.

But just walking around in the world, it is almost impossible to find people who are intellectually interesting, and since I am more inclined to learn more about cute people than average or ugly people, i never find the average, or ugly intellectually interesting people.

I wish the intellectually interesting would break social norms more often and declare themselves, because i'm not interested in searching through 10 thousand average or ugly people to find one which is so intellectually interesting so as to make them more valuable to me than whatever their appearance is.

Same here, Nomaken. Intelligence has a way of distracting you from ugliness. My recent crush was maybe a little ugly (by media standards), but very intellectual. Intelligence has a way of making people look better.

They say that drinking alcohol can seem to make ugly people look good too. It's been tested, and it's a lie. Your mind is convinced by media (friends, etc.) that drinking can make people look better. I saw a thing on TV about it. They showed men who had not heard of this myth pictures of women (pretty and ugly), then they got the men drunk and showed them the same pictures. The men said they looked the same and gave them the same 1-10 rating. They then did it with men who knew about the myth and were convinced it's true, and the people became better looking. I may of gotten a few details wrong, but I found it interesting and worth sharing here.

I agree with you Normaken.

I just have a hard time discerning what is cute. I have failed to develop an opinion on the matter due to the fact that both the male and female bodies have near infinate variables for features that it makes it hard to work out an overall idea of what is what. It's to difficult to develop an opinion so therefor it has become a non-issue to me. Anyone who will carry on a conversation with me is good enough in my book.

In general terms, what appears to be an ideal female is one whose torso is approximately 1.618 (golden ratio) times the height of her hip width, whose breasts form a 3d parabolic arc, and has a butt that forms a perfect cardoid. The ability to grow hair easily helps too.

Oh it all makes sense now... >_>

Why do men like good looking women?

One could just as easily ask why women like rich men.

Both genders are equally shallow in my opinion.

Actually, Hale_bopp, your theory is pretty much spot on. I recently read an article in a Science magazine where they quizzed people going into a Speed Dating session , on what they thought their ideal mate would be. They mostly studied females, most of them responded, share similar interests, be interesting, looks weren't a priority, etc. The stuff most people say they want in a mate now days.
But upon actually observing their choices in the Speed Dating, it came down to the apparent physical fitness, and resource abundance (in this case money). So, strong and have resources to support a family. Survival of the fittest at work.



The movie "Shallow Hal" had the main character having the ability to see "Inner Beauty". I don't know how or why, but I seem to be a good judge of character, and personality, almost like being able to see a person inner beauty, or ugliness... So looks rarely factor in for me.
In reference to the above quote, it's true, most "Good Looking" people don't have that great a personality, some are incredibly shallow, others are snobs, and some are just plain stupid. "Ugly" people vary; from having excellent personalities to being real bastards and b*****s (mostly because how they were treated, it's a defence mechanism). If you were walking in the street, it's the Good Looking or Ugly people you'd notice, "Ooh she's/he's good looking." "My god, he/she is fugly!"
It's the Average person that everyone ignores to a large degree, and for the most part they have the best personalities, it's hard to get notice when your looks don't get you looked at (for either good or bad), so you'll have to devise another way of being noticed...



As with the above comment (above with quote), I too have noticed such behaviours in people, "Ugly" and most "lower end" Average people are very tolerant of imperfections, being "Imperfect" themselves. Whereas "Good Looking" people, hold everyone to the standards that they themselves are held, so anyone who doesn't meet the grade is considered unworthy.

But as with every rule there are many exceptions, I used to know a girl who was one of the best looking people I've ever known (not counting celebrities, but she'd still win over most of them), and she was a really nice person, and paradoxically, she hung with the "weird" crowd at school.



Makeup = 'What have they got to hide' especially if it's heavy makeup. I too prefer girls who don't wear much makeup. Subtle coverup of things like acne and the like is fine with me, though I might feel cheated when/if I find out, cheated that they couldn't be themselves so to speak. It's complex. (as with everything I do)



Woo go us Nice guys... And yet, many of us Nice guys struggle to find female friends, let alone girlfriends (well at least I have)



Anybody know of the MTV cartoon 'Daria'? Who here wouldn't want to go out with Daria? As opposed to someone like Britney. Or Daria's sister...Who incidentally reminds me of my youngest sister.
Jane was a little too freaky for me...

I've often wondered how I could be attracted to a cartoon character... But maybe my attraction is purely personality based?



I'm not often attracted to blondes, I prefer the darker hair, browns, blacks. Red Heads rarely even get a showing, which is odd...



Men like good looking women because it show health and verility.
Women like rich men because it shows they have an abundance of resources with which to support a family.
Both are for survival reasons.


Now here's a question...
Generally "NT" people are pretty open about liking the "Good Looking" people, etc.
And Aspies seem, for the most part, to go for the Personality, before the looks. Intelligence.

Now, "NT"s could be hiding their true feelings, but given the report I read in that Science magazine, I doubt it. Their reasons for choosing a mate seem to be based on strength, vitality, resources.

Aspies are pretty open about everything (in my experience), and our the reasons behind choosing a mate are someone to be with, to share ourselves with etc.

Passing on genes is a given part of every organism's life, so the NTs pass on their health, strength etc, making the species stronger through concentration etc.

Aspies would mate with an intelligent person, (hopefully) passing on intelligence (Aspie or NT or other) to the next generation...

Given this, are Aspies an integral part of this SENTIENT species continued exisence, and improvement?


GA

Hahahaha - I *am* Jane.

Well in that case... I am the great cornholio!

I liked Jane, Daria was too depressing.

*puts on AC/DC shirt*

Señor Beavis! Where is your hall pass?!

Ok, more accurately, I guess I'm part Jane and part Daria. Freaky *and* depressed/depressing. W00t.