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28 Feb 2011, 5:49 pm

I'm well happy to be a Buddhist, everyone knows it's not a proper religion.


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28 Feb 2011, 5:53 pm

Besides, I fail to see religion-bashing in that thread nor arrogance of "atheist superiority" complex. Only lotus made a comment that might offend some ,even though I bet it was in a humorous tone.


Hell , I even said I have my dreams and my demons,



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28 Feb 2011, 6:11 pm

Most people are secular in their believes. Athiests included. The fundamental principle of secularism is tolerance of others beliefs

If you don't accept the fundamental principles of a secular society you can piss off quite frankly


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28 Feb 2011, 6:13 pm

Maybe they should start making 20 foot poles.



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28 Feb 2011, 6:42 pm

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Maybe they should start making 20 foot poles.


I should probably keep one around for when the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses come knocking. A really sharp one. Just kidding... sort of.



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28 Feb 2011, 7:55 pm

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As far as I can see its the whole atheist superiority coming out again. And then they ask "Why won't people date an atheist?"

I wouldn't touch one with a 10 foot pole because I hate arrogance.


Why are you so quick to brand people who don't believe in the supernatural as "arrogant"?

I don't bash anyone's beliefs, just like most of the non-religious people on this forum.

Maybe you feel insecure about your own beliefs, so you find it necessary to attack others who simply fail to agree with them - even if they respect your right to believe what you want?

Strange... :?



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28 Feb 2011, 8:28 pm

I'm agnostic, but I don't really have a religious standard. Unless you're with al-Qaeda or the like, I'll take you. :)


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28 Feb 2011, 8:59 pm

Grisha wrote:
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As far as I can see its the whole atheist superiority coming out again. And then they ask "Why won't people date an atheist?"

I wouldn't touch one with a 10 foot pole because I hate arrogance.


Why are you so quick to brand people who don't believe in the supernatural as "arrogant"?

I don't bash anyone's beliefs, just like most of the non-religious people on this forum.

Maybe you feel insecure about your own beliefs, so you find it necessary to attack others who simply fail to agree with them - even if they respect your right to believe what you want?

Strange... :?


This may sound weird but if you are an aithiest why are you wearing a cross around your neck in one of the pictures in the "hot aspies" thread. Because that gives out the seriously wrong idea. I would look at that and think "hardcore Christian"



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28 Feb 2011, 9:22 pm

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This may sound weird but if you are an aithiest why are you wearing a cross around your neck in one of the pictures in the "hot aspies" thread. Because that gives out the seriously wrong idea. I would look at that and think "hardcore Christian"


I happen to wear that because I strongly believe in, and try to practice, what Jesus taught.

This includes not judging others, or presenting oneself as superior to anyone.

I sometimes tell people that I'm a Christian, but I'm going to hell anyway (because I don't believe in the supernatural). :wink:



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28 Feb 2011, 9:55 pm

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This may sound weird but if you are an aithiest why are you wearing a cross around your neck in one of the pictures in the "hot aspies" thread. Because that gives out the seriously wrong idea. I would look at that and think "hardcore Christian"


I happen to wear that because I strongly believe in, and try to practice, what Jesus taught.

This includes not judging others, or presenting oneself as superior to anyone.

I sometimes tell people that I'm a Christian, but I'm going to hell anyway (because I don't believe in the supernatural). :wink:


No you have me confused. What exactly are you?



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28 Feb 2011, 9:58 pm

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I happen to wear that because I strongly believe in, and try to practice, what Jesus taught.

This includes not judging others, or presenting oneself as superior to anyone.

I sometimes tell people that I'm a Christian, but I'm going to hell anyway (because I don't believe in the supernatural). :wink:


To clarify, you mean that you want to follow the teachings of Jesus but don't believe that he was the son of God or that he was resurrected and such?



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28 Feb 2011, 10:13 pm

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Grisha wrote:
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This may sound weird but if you are an aithiest why are you wearing a cross around your neck in one of the pictures in the "hot aspies" thread. Because that gives out the seriously wrong idea. I would look at that and think "hardcore Christian"


I happen to wear that because I strongly believe in, and try to practice, what Jesus taught.

This includes not judging others, or presenting oneself as superior to anyone.

I sometimes tell people that I'm a Christian, but I'm going to hell anyway (because I don't believe in the supernatural). :wink:


No you have me confused. What exactly are you?


I am an atheist because I don't believe there is an omniscient supernatural humanoid being that intervenes in human affairs.

My moral philosophy is decisively Christian, as articulated by Jesus in the 4 Gospels.

I leave it up to you to give this a name... :)



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28 Feb 2011, 10:30 pm

I'd rather just avoid it. Being in a relationship with somebody with a lot of conflicting beliefs to my own would just be too stressful, and confusing. I might consider it if they were logical, open-minded, non-judgmental people who were okay with dating someone with differing beliefs and wouldn't want to push their beliefs on me. I'm fine with being friends with people with strong religious beliefs, but would I date them? It would really just depend on the person specifically. I'm not going to make a decision going by one entire specific group, cause from what I've experienced, people who identify themselves as a specific religion can have widely varying believes. (which is confusing...kind of eliminates the point of labeling yourself a specific religion anyway....)


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28 Feb 2011, 10:30 pm

I'd rather just avoid it. Being in a relationship with somebody with a lot of conflicting beliefs to my own would just be too stressful, and confusing. I might consider it if they were logical, open-minded, non-judgmental people who were okay with dating someone with differing beliefs and wouldn't want to push their beliefs on me. I'm fine with being friends with people with strong religious beliefs, but would I date them? It would really just depend on the person specifically. I'm not going to make a decision going by one entire specific group, cause from what I've experienced, people who identify themselves as a specific religion can have widely varying believes. (which is confusing...kind of eliminates the point of labeling yourself a specific religion anyway....)


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28 Feb 2011, 11:11 pm

Grisha wrote:
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Grisha wrote:
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This may sound weird but if you are an aithiest why are you wearing a cross around your neck in one of the pictures in the "hot aspies" thread. Because that gives out the seriously wrong idea. I would look at that and think "hardcore Christian"


I happen to wear that because I strongly believe in, and try to practice, what Jesus taught.

This includes not judging others, or presenting oneself as superior to anyone.

I sometimes tell people that I'm a Christian, but I'm going to hell anyway (because I don't believe in the supernatural). :wink:


No you have me confused. What exactly are you?


I am an atheist because I don't believe there is an omniscient supernatural humanoid being that intervenes in human affairs.

My moral philosophy is decisively Christian, as articulated by Jesus in the 4 Gospels.

I leave it up to you to give this a name... :)


Hmm that doesn't address several other things. Do you believe in any sort of energy in the universe that we don't understand?
Define Supernatural?



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hale_bopp wrote:
Grisha wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Grisha wrote:
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This may sound weird but if you are an aithiest why are you wearing a cross around your neck in one of the pictures in the "hot aspies" thread. Because that gives out the seriously wrong idea. I would look at that and think "hardcore Christian"


I happen to wear that because I strongly believe in, and try to practice, what Jesus taught.

This includes not judging others, or presenting oneself as superior to anyone.

I sometimes tell people that I'm a Christian, but I'm going to hell anyway (because I don't believe in the supernatural). :wink:


No you have me confused. What exactly are you?


I am an atheist because I don't believe there is an omniscient supernatural humanoid being that intervenes in human affairs.

My moral philosophy is decisively Christian, as articulated by Jesus in the 4 Gospels.

I leave it up to you to give this a name... :)


Hmm that doesn't address several other things. Do you believe in any sort of energy in the universe that we don't understand?
Define Supernatural?


Supernatural literally refers to something outside of nature/the observable universe.

While I certainly think there is a strong possibility that something exists outside nature, we cannot observe it by definition and it is irrelevent from a moral standpoint.

Yes, I certainly believe in something which is common to living things which might roughly described as a "life force" which is very difficult to express intellectually but I sense very acutely when I observe nature - sort of a sense of common destiny and purpose that is very concrete and "real" to me, unlike the abstractions of common religious thought.

@Mangos - I regard Jesus as an exceptionally gifted moral teacher, absolutely without peer in this regard. I can't honestly say that I accept as undeniably true the supernatural phenomena you referred to, I really can't say one way or the other, but I'm inclined towards disbelief - I'm not alone in his regard, many thinkers (ie Thomas Jefferson) believed this way.