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17 Aug 2011, 10:25 pm

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Sad Aspy: All western women have a similar background etc. Not just US and UK. All white countries. If you want a place which worships white men try a 3rd world country or one of a very different culture.. A lot of awkward guys I know have had success in Asia for example. Being a white American you have a huge advantage over most men in many parts of the world.

So you admit that Western woman don't like socially awkward guys? Jackpot!

Unfortuantely, I'm attracted to white women. Guess that means I'm off to eastern Europe.

No, I admit that white women grow up in a culture not to value white men as much as other cultures. This includes eastern Europeans. They're white aren't they? I've got two eastern European friends and they're pickier than me.

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17 Aug 2011, 10:31 pm

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No, I admit that white women grow up in a culture not to value white men as much as other cultures.

You said you know awkward guys who go to Asia for women. They wouldn't have to do that if Western women didn't treat them so badly.

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I've got two eastern European friends and they're pickier than me.

I bet if they're in Belarus, they're not so picky!

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17 Aug 2011, 10:35 pm

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No, I admit that white women grow up in a culture not to value white men as much as other cultures.

You said you know awkward guys who go to Asia for women. They wouldn't have to do that if Western women didn't treat them so badly.

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I've got two eastern European friends and they're pickier than me.

I bet if they're in Belarus, they're not so picky!

most women don't treat men badly in the Western World, and most men don't treat women badly either.

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17 Aug 2011, 10:48 pm

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No, I admit that white women grow up in a culture not to value white men as much as other cultures.

You said you know awkward guys who go to Asia for women. They wouldn't have to do that if Western women didn't treat them so badly.

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I've got two eastern European friends and they're pickier than me.

I bet if they're in Belarus, they're not so picky!

Funnily enough, one of them is in Belarus.

Also not wanting to date someone isn't treating them badly. Poorer countries see white men as rich/money/able to provide a better lifestyle, that's all.

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17 Aug 2011, 11:22 pm

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So you admit that Western woman don't like socially awkward guys? Jackpot!

Unfortuantely, I'm attracted to white women. Guess that means I'm off to eastern Europe.

I have read your posts. You come across as very negative, blaming women for everything. So would you be open to dating a woman who is negative, blames men for everything including you, claims men in America are all narcissistic cheaters so she's going to find an Asian man instead?

If you were to stop allowing your mind to stew in negativity, stop lumping all women as the same, not admitting perhaps that is your real downfall you might actually get a girlfriend. I know plenty of socially awkward men who are married with children. They don't whine, stew in negativity nor do they blame women for all their problems.

BUT...I'm sure you'd rather keep blaming women so you won't have to face yourself. It's easy that way.

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17 Aug 2011, 11:37 pm

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Also not wanting to date someone isn't treating them badly.

No but using them for money, favors is treating them badly. Dating tattooed thugs while rejecting decent guys is also treating them (the latter) badly.

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Poorer countries see white men as rich/money/able to provide a better lifestyle, that's all.

Yeah those women can't afford to be picky about stupid s**t like his social skills, his hobbies, etc.

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17 Aug 2011, 11:51 pm

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Also not wanting to date someone isn't treating them badly.

No but using them for money, favors is treating them badly. Dating tattooed thugs while rejecting decent guys is also treating them (the latter) badly.

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Poorer countries see white men as rich/money/able to provide a better lifestyle, that's all.

Yeah those women can't afford to be picky about stupid sh** like his social skills, his hobbies, etc.

I don't hear of many white women using guys for money. Seems you only believe what you want to believe. It works both ways. Men can be just as much users.

Why is dating a tattooed thug treating a "decent guy" badly? Maybe the person likes tattooed thugs. It's not really any of your business.

It sounds like you're just hating on white women. You say they "use guys" for money, and then you have no problem with 3rd world women using men for money. You just contradicted yourself in one post.

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17 Aug 2011, 11:55 pm

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I don't hear of many white women using guys for money. Seems you only believe what you want to believe. It works both ways. Men can be just as much users.

Seeing as how men are expected to be the breadwinners despite feminist women taking up many of the good-paying jobs through affirmative action, I doubt this happens much.

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Why is dating a tattooed thug treating a "decent guy" badly? Maybe the person likes tattooed thugs. It's not really any of your business.

Because these women breed with these idiots and make things even worse.

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It sounds like you're just hating on white women. You say they "use guys" for money, and then you have no problem with 3rd world women using men for money. You just contradicted yourself in one post.

I never said 3rd world women were just after money...you said it , and so I mocked your flawed viewpoint.

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18 Aug 2011, 12:59 am

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Why is dating a tattooed thug treating a "decent guy" badly? Maybe the person likes tattooed thugs. It's not really any of your business.

Because these women breed with these idiots and make things even worse.

You didn't answer the question. Your answer also doesn't make sense.

A lady dating a tattooed thug is not treating a decent guy badly.

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18 Aug 2011, 1:21 am

Ancalagon wrote:

SadAspy wrote:

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Why is dating a tattooed thug treating a "decent guy" badly? Maybe the person likes tattooed thugs. It's not really any of your business.

Because these women breed with these idiots and make things even worse.

You didn't answer the question. Your answer also doesn't make sense.

A lady dating a tattooed thug is not treating a decent guy badly.

Within a paradigm where a guy proclaims himself "decent" and sulks when women don't then seem to understand they owe him dates,
it most certainly does mean that.

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18 Aug 2011, 3:35 am

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How is that clearly not the case? Yeah, maybe every once in awhile, a nice guy lucks out and gets a relationship, but it's definitely the exception rather than the rule.

So is this the Aspie black & white logic at work here? You honestly believe that there are only two possibilities? Either the dude was an PUA a-hole and got his gf, or by a vastly smaller percentage, a lucky nice guy? You really want to stick to THAT stance in order to prove an internet point?

How about the more likely occurrence that, some supposed 'nice guys' get a gf, some supposed a-hole PUA get a gf, and then the fast spectrum in between of individuals manages to be a combination of the extremes, and they get the majority of significant others? Because guess what, most of the couples I know, and that's a lot when you start to move past 30, fall into the in-betweens.

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18 Aug 2011, 4:00 am

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... they exceed my expectations. While I, with wry irony, applaud their endless malice, deception, and cruelty,
I also find myself tempted to snatch their liquor from their hand and poor it down their pants, which are already proverbially on fire.

So at this recent party, I overheard 2 guys reviewing the techniques and methodology:
Guy 1: "What you do to get a particular woman, is you openly show an interest in each of her friends, but keep putting her down. Eventually she'll get jealous and come to you."
Guy 2: "So what if I say '____ ____ __ ____ __ ___ ___' ?" (I can't remember the line.)
Guy 1: "No. That will makes her feel good about herself. You can't do that."

So now I know that even just being nice to women is ... prohibited, as a sure way to failure.

Good f***ing job, pickup artists. You make filthy stayers look like saints by comparison.

Just to elaborate on a point I made above....

Let me ask this...so PUA are to be reviled (and as you've depicted them, they should be), so presumably you'll never use that approach. And now by your admission, 'nice guy' isn't going to cut it either. So what do you do? It seems you've painted yourself into a nice corner. Pun intended.

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18 Aug 2011, 6:42 am

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You're fine.

Pervert.

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I haven't gotten any weird or annoying vibes off you, you come across as a cool guy.

Thanks for saying so. I don't mix well with people to be honest and tend to be resistant and standoffish, so people tell me. I live in a world of my own.

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don't know why you're lonely in real life.

Because again, I'm liable to say what I think and this upsets people. Also, I am apparently very selfish and only talk about what I want to talk about, so I go into my own little world a bit.

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(aspie thing maybe?)

And being the tubster?

I probably am a bit lecherous and creepy (non-verbal communication strikes again) on occasion, though an awful lot less than a lot of the guys here. I am not badly dressed, nor am I smelly. I'm just fat. Very fat.

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But I'd definitely want to hang out with you in real life if you lived here.

Thanks for the compliment, hale_bopp. It's really appreciated. And I'd love to hang out with you too, no worries. If I ever get to the land of sheep and fush and chups I'll most certainly look you up. Not enough money though, which is why I'm going to Derby instead of New Zealand.

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18 Aug 2011, 7:46 am

Men who do this remind me of middle-schoolers. Very emotionally immature. Maybe very low I.Q. 's also. To me it sounds like it's being done to impress the other guys more then anything else. Their tactics don't even make sense unless the girls they are trying to bag are mentally challenged, mentally ill, or suicidal or very bitter and out to give them aids. My goodness - to have to go through all that just to get laid - there can't be too much to guys like this. If they want sex so bad, why don't they just pay. A lot of houses give group discounts. They don't want to pay - cheap cheap! Or maybe they need the ego-builder of the sexual conquest. What spineless bastards. Guys like that make me want to give them the clap or worse......."Bagged 'er! Now I'm on meds for the rest of my life." Everybody gets what they deserve.

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18 Aug 2011, 7:53 am

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+1000

Seriously.

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18 Aug 2011, 8:18 am

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TheygoMew wrote:

+1000

Seriously.

As I've said over and over and over again, I only developed a negative attitude after so much rejection. But since you refuse to acknowledge the point, arguing with you is pointless.

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