How to make girls chase

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Are modern vampires sexy?

I wonder if a well dressed Frankenstein wearing Axe spray would be sexy...

^^ You do look like a modern vampire, sir.

Show us your fangs Shrox!

(vampiric version of "TAKE IT OFF")

this thread is so bipolar. send it to the haven.

Wow, a Quaker with fangs...that's as cool as a dinosaur with a saddle!

While I do see that there is an element (quite pronounced, or perhaps the seedy side gets more limelight) in PUA that is harmful and disturbing and should be guarded against, I would not tar everyone who dabbles in those waters (or related waters) with the same brush.

I would certainly not take it out on poor Lightfiend here, who obviously found Chase's persepctives interesting enough to give webspace to. That doesn't make him a knife weilding woman abuser!

I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to understand the ins and outs of relationships, but I do think we should be careful that we don't support anything that's abusive or unethical. To some extent, we manipulate each other all day, every day, in ways; mostly unconsciously.

You really think so?

Yes.

I use this definition:



When I speak to people, I make certain efforts to create what I believe would be the most positive outcome (for me and the other). I would call this a conscious manipulation of sorts.

Using your words or actions to make your kids tidy up after themselves, prevent someone from throwing themselves off a building, persuading someone to sleep with you, all quite similar in my view.

Hmm... okay. It's a looser definition than I expected, but it makes sense.

I think so. I've been thinking about this a lot lately. People doing stuff without realizing why they're doing it and so on. And how it appears from the outside. Blah blah blah.

Could you elaborate? I'm very curious about manipulation these days.

puppies = conduits

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That's quite interesting, purchase. Enlightening in a way. Thanks.

^^

I thought this story would highlight how the ex-bf is still talking to you, and thus has an unconscious manipulative effect on your sister.


(if you need me to delete this, let me know).

I think it's both, AsteriodNap. Messy situation, really. But then, when aren't those types of situations messy?

Always bring chocolate.
I agree that if I care I will be more socially inept with you. Yes.
I never notice when women are chasing me, to be honest. Sadly. Although it has happened.

Painting people in a group with broad negative generalizations = strongly emotional and lashing out.
Getting upset about people attacking their group with negative generalizations after several posts = completely rational emotional response.
Judging someone for responding angrily for repeated and excessive negative generalizations = playing mind-games.
Playing mind games saying you hate mind games = classic.

Selling books in more than 1 paragraph = a transcript of a televised interview (hopefully).
Educational information on relationship techniques = always good but never definitive.
Manipulation = use Moog's definition.