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06 Sep 2011, 10:48 pm

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Just do something different. At least so nobody has to tell you this stuff over and over again. Tell yourself. Look in the mirror and repeat:

I'm not stupid, I'm not slow. I'm not ugly. I will be rich. I will have a fulfilling life.

Just do it man.

So want me to just lie to myself? Because if I did what you said above, I would be lying.

I am slow, it was proven by doctors by putting me in special ed for the majority of my school years. I am ugly, proven by years of torment by males and females, they wouldn't be saying it if it wasn't true.

How would I become rich? lol by winning the lottery? There's not even a lottery near my area.

I never had a fulfilling life, and I will never have a fulfilling life. I dropped out of HS in the 9th, and in the process, missed out on prom, dances, graduation, etc. I missed out on college, I don't have any friends, I never dated, I've never had a job, and I've spent most of my life surviving off SSI checks and foodstamps. What the hell is so fulfilling about that huh? Nothing.

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06 Sep 2011, 11:31 pm

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MountZion wrote:

So want me to just lie to myself? Because if I did what you said above, I would be lying.

I am slow, it was proven by doctors by putting me in special ed for the majority of my school years. I am ugly, proven by years of torment by males and females, they wouldn't be saying it if it wasn't true.

How would I become rich? lol by winning the lottery? There's not even a lottery near my area.

I never had a fulfilling life, and I will never have a fulfilling life. I dropped out of HS in the 9th, and in the process, missed out on prom, dances, graduation, etc. I missed out on college, I don't have any friends, I never dated, I've never had a job, and I've spent most of my life surviving off SSI checks and foodstamps. What the hell is so fulfilling about that huh? Nothing.

i will give u this, from what it sounds its going to be hard very hard for u than most and to put it plainly that just sucks, but it doesnt mean it cant be done, there are only dead ends in life if u make them humans are more powerful than we think we are and its just a matter of if ur willing to put in the work needed to get where u want to be in life

but like i said its going to be hard

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07 Sep 2011, 7:15 am

I give up.

I'm ignoring your posts from now on.

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07 Sep 2011, 8:04 am

Now this thread has been derailed.

Don't bother arguing with MR20. You WON'T WIN. He doesn't want help.

Now be a sweet guy and stop trying

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07 Sep 2011, 8:28 am

hale_bopp wrote:

Now be a sweet guy and stop trying

STOP calling guys "sweet" - it's not, uh, nice... :wink:

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07 Sep 2011, 3:39 pm

MR20 wrote:

MountZion wrote:

So want me to just lie to myself? Because if I did what you said above, I would be lying.

I am slow, it was proven by doctors by putting me in special ed for the majority of my school years. <-- to me it sounds like you were misdiagnosed and instead you just are on the autism spectrum. You show no signs whatsoever of being "slow."

I am ugly, proven by years of torment by males and females, they wouldn't be saying it if it wasn't true. <-- maybe they're picking on you because you seem pick-on-able for other reasons. I doubt people would be so cruel to attack someone or something they can't help. People tend to pick on people who can help things about them that give off an underdog vibe. Picking on someone with an unhelpable weakness is no victory for bullies. What's a "victory" in their eyes is seeing someone who has potential and crushing it. They wouldn't bother picking on you if they didn't see you as a threat, as competition. Just animalistic human nature.

How would I become rich? lol by winning the lottery? There's not even a lottery near my area.

You could become rich by pursuing what you love and making a career out of it. You don't even need to be "rich" necessarily, I mean enough money is enough money, but know that you could become rich as well as any other human being could. There is no unmovable barrier.

I never had a fulfilling life, and I will never have a fulfilling life. I dropped out of HS in the 9th, and in the process, missed out on prom, dances, graduation, etc. I missed out on college, I don't have any friends, I never dated, I've never had a job, and I've spent most of my life surviving off SSI checks and foodstamps. What the hell is so fulfilling about that huh? Nothing.

Past =/= present. Just because your life has not ben fulfilling doesn't mean your future won't be. That's like saying because x = 0 in one equation, it will mean 0 in another equation.Every day is a new equation though. The values of variables don't stay constant from equation to equation or from day to day..

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07 Sep 2011, 5:34 pm

hale_bopp wrote:

Now this thread has been derailed.

Don't bother arguing with MR20. You WON'T WIN. He doesn't want help.

Now be a sweet guy and stop trying

What I WANT is release. Release from the despair, bitterness, loneliness, and misery.

Release from this life.

I WANT people to stop telling me it can get better and that I have to just be positive.

I'm sick of that s**t.

I'll never be anything. I'm a good for nothing, poor, slow, and ret*d bum that doesn't do anything but waste air and space.

There is no hope for me. I wish people here would just tell me the truth; That there's no reason for me to keep living and I should just off myself.

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07 Sep 2011, 5:54 pm

Ahem! MR20! Did you read my refutation above?

Also I had another thought. Well two thoughts.

1. if you're suicidal tell someone near you or call the doctor

but also

2. I think growing up feeling like you were less than other people for numerous reasons has made you think this way even though you aren't actually less than anyone.

I remember when you posted way back you said you went to a predominantly white church and you're Black and the other members there treated your family as a charity case. That alone would cause a major inferiority complex in anyone, and the false idea that you're less than other people inherently because of the way you are and can't help being (Black). I don't know what the racial composition was like at your school either. It cannot have been easy being the odd one out though as a simple matter of everyone else around you, at your church anyway, being white. It gives you the strong sense that the world is against you and since society doesn't ever really come together as a group and say "I'm sorry MR20 for making you feel different all those years because you were different in that way from the people around you" you start to think it's you who's the problem, consciously or not. You're not the problem though. I have some book around here called "Acting White" that has portions about these issues if I remember correctly. I didn't read the whole thing but anyway I'm sure there are lots of good books on the subject and related subjects. I don't know you and can't say for sure whether this post will ring true for you but I must say it can't have been easy the challenges you've faced.

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07 Sep 2011, 7:01 pm

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Race doesn't have anything to do with it. The neighborhood I live in and the schools I attended were predominantly black. The church my grandma went to just happened to be all white.

I was teased, shunned, and made fun of because of my deficiencies, not because of me being black.

I'm an ugly, slow, ret*d bum. That's why people didn't like hanging out with me, not because of race.

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07 Sep 2011, 7:16 pm

I don't know why you keep calling yourself slow and other words like that. You're very clearly not at all. I would call you quick and sharp. I must say anyone with the ability to defend an idea with such success even if the idea is baseless and untrue (the idea that you're these things you keep saying) would make an excellent lawyer. In other words you're pretty darn smart and I just wish you would put that to use in other ways than to argue that you're not worthwhile as a person.

I don't know you so the only thing I can say about "ugly" (besides what I wrote above in bold and which I truly believe) is that you can't listen to mean things people say about you. You just can't. People say mean things to you for a reason and it's not to point out facts. It's to try to hurt you and make you feel worthless.

You're not a bum. I have no job either and no income. I'm not a bum. I don't consider you a bum. You're not a bum.

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