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03 Oct 2006, 3:11 pm

I'm not condoning what litigous is saying in any way, but this wasn't the initial reason he couldn't get laid. The initial reason was that he is an autistic male, thereby a victim of a racist society who cares little if nothing of how he felt. Starting in his school years, he was picked on, isolated, segregated, marginalized, and forced into an un-natural state of living.
Sometimes this messes men's minds and feelings up, and creates monsters. The real struggle is to defeat the monster inside of himself. As evil as rape is, this is a survival mechanism in his brain kicking in. In the law of the wild, if a man couldn't get what he needed by honest methods, he took it. This is clearly not a good thing to do, but it's a survival mechanism in his brain. It can be overcame, though the monster will forever be fighting for control over him until he gets his needs fulfilled. However, he could adopt a better attitude towards women, even if not NT women atleast aspie women.
Yeah, some rapists are not sex-starved, theyr out for that feeling of empowerment, and this is even moreso sickening. But alot of rapists became that way because they began as a regular man, but could not have their sexual needs met.
http://www.thecenter.ucla.edu/stalking.html

Type 2 stalker is an example of this. It's not right, but theyr not totally in control of their thoughts or actions. Perhaps the best thing for these people is to seek therapy, but they'll still be starving for their needs to be met. Maybe after litigous has had time to supress his demons before they get out of hand, by therapy or even mental clinics (as much as I hate those places), if he gets back to being the good litigous the next right thing to do is to help him meet his needs. In fact it might even help to use this as insentive for him to do good in therapy.



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03 Oct 2006, 3:16 pm

Society is also wrong for developing mosters out of people like this. Society is half to blame for forcing people into celibacy. All litigous needed in order to stay sane and approach a better attitude to women was some outlet for his sexual/intimate needs, a willing female somewhere. Even if this is through *voluntary* prostitution.... Though escort rates are set around alpha financial incomes, I think they need to both legalise willful prostitution and they need to come up with a better work/pay system for prostitutes, one that works equally for lower-income clientele.



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03 Oct 2006, 3:22 pm

Sorce, please don't talk about anything dealing with involuntary celibacy, your opinion on incel is worthless, you've never had to deal with it, and you won't ever have to deal with it. Forcing someone to have sex is wrong. But, society forcing someone to never have sex is equally as wrong. Your views seem to be totally set around "females are good and are always right, because I'm female". It's this kind of mentality that makes evangelicals think it's ok to trample the right of other religions. Your thinking through an emotional filter based upon the label you put on yourself as being a female.



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03 Oct 2006, 3:23 pm

I am also very sorry that some of you women have been raped :(



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03 Oct 2006, 3:24 pm

Well,what I dont understand about his "needs" is that he can masturbate for sexual release and have some form of his control and sex needs with prostitutes but he still feels a need unfull filled and it seems to be the need to get revenge on the females (who he feels) have made him feel inferior.We have seen two cases of men who have gone into schools at gun point,raped and executed young girls because of some thing that happened when they were growing up(we dont know exactly what yet)These were not the same girls who rejected them when they were growing up....they were "stand ins"
There is no logic in this kind of behavior...it does not undo the past,does not make snobs except people as individuals,and any "satisfaction" experienced is short lived,as the individual will end up in jail being gangbanged or dead(as in these two cases.It is a lose lose situation,,,such illogical doesn't appear very aspie to me.I have been madly obsessed with people who rejected me....I never once considered hurting them...This is a different thing then what Latigous says he wants.


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03 Oct 2006, 3:36 pm

Well masturbation is a pathetic substitute, it's like going to a starving ethiopian and telling him "so what, you don't have food... Eat bugs". It's about having an intimate connection with a female human being and fulfilling the sex drive. If you had not read this link I'll give it to you again:

http://www.thecenter.ucla.edu/stalking.html

Type 2 stalker is a case of this. If you were honest, you'd admit you'd be completely miserable if you had to go your entire life without ever getting close to anyone. Not only that, but being made to feel inferior on top of that.



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03 Oct 2006, 3:38 pm

Prostitutes are one alternative, but they charge such high rates most people can't afford them on a regular enough basis.



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03 Oct 2006, 3:39 pm

I mean, the longer we have to go without it, the more we need it, the more we need. Same as any other need. If you see a man thirsting to death, yeah you might give him a 3 liter of water, but he'll probably still be thirsty after that.



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03 Oct 2006, 3:41 pm

snake321 wrote:
Sorce, please don't talk about anything dealing with involuntary celibacy, your opinion on incel is worthless, you've never had to deal with it, and you won't ever have to deal with it. Forcing someone to have sex is wrong. But, society forcing someone to never have sex is equally as wrong. Your views seem to be totally set around "females are good and are always right, because I'm female". It's this kind of mentality that makes evangelicals think it's ok to trample the right of other religions. Your thinking through an emotional filter based upon the label you put on yourself as being a female.


Do you actually read my whole entire posts, or do you just skim through? Other posters are saying the same thing as I am, albeit in a more calmer manner, but the same nonetheless. Show me a post written by me where I have stated women are always right because we're women. I have stated that everyone is responsible for his/her own actions. If someone has problems finding someone to be intimate with it's usually because they need to take a look in the mirror and stop blaming everybody else. This applies to everyone, not just men. The reason you think I would never direct this towards women too is because you have a problem with women. Any person that says some women invite rape, has a big problem with women. Yes, I'm emotional about the issue, but at least I can be honest with myself.



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03 Oct 2006, 3:45 pm

Ok I GIVE UP ... i will go with the flow :lol:


it seems a lot of scum rapers find drunk women in night clubs and bars as easy victims ... I can recall her a conversation between 2 guys ..the first guy was boasting about making out with a pretty girl then he said that she felt asleep because she was too drunk . The other guy asked him : "did u f**k her then?" ...the first guy replied "no" ...the other guy : "why not ? "

it s seem that for some it is acceptable to rape drunken women as if they consider it as an open invitation for sex .



women must avoid to get drunk in such dirty places where dirty ppl lark .....



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03 Oct 2006, 3:51 pm

Your obviously too stupid to listen to what I'm saying logically.... AND HOW f*****g DARE YOU b***h YOU PLAY REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY ON ME, IT'S NOT OUR FAULT WE'RE f*****g TREATED LIKE FREAKS. Your f*****g world is very different from ours, like I said, shut the f**k up about incel, you have no right to comment on it, no more than a german christian has the right to belittle the halucaust. By your statements you sound like a man-hating feminist. I'm not condoning rape, if you wanna twist my words then your gonna twist my words. I don't care, your a stupid ret*d.
Like I said, imagine, no matter HOW HARD YOU TRY, you could NEVER intimately bond with a compatible human being. It would f**k your mind up all to hell. No, it's not us, it's not OUR fault we're aspies, it's not OUR fault b*****s like you have such a narrow minded attitude. If you ask 5 men out, one of them will come home with you. An aspie man would have to literally ask thousands of girls. Remember b***h, your the chasee, you hold the cards. Therefor you have no right to make a judgement on involuntary celibacy, because you don't live with it, you never have lived with it, and you won't ever live with it.



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03 Oct 2006, 3:53 pm

You know what, I'm not even gonna reply to you anymore sorce, it's not even worth it. You refuse to even try to see it from an outside perspective.



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03 Oct 2006, 3:55 pm

ok ....i am going to do something useful instead of wasting my time in such endless debate ..... :?



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03 Oct 2006, 3:57 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
Ok I GIVE UP ... i will go with the flow :lol:


it seems a lot of scum rapers find drunk women in night clubs and bars as easy victims ... I can recall her a conversation between 2 guys ..the first guy was boasting about making out with a pretty girl then he said that she felt asleep because she was too drunk . The other guy asked him : "did u f*** her then?" ...the first guy replied "no" ...the other guy : "why not ? "

it s seem that for some it is acceptable to rape drunken women as if they consider it as an open invitation for sex .



women must avoid to get drunk in such dirty places where dirty ppl lark .....


This girl i was trying to date got drunk and was raped at college. It was amazing how
the school tried very hard to make sure she did not press charges. They wanted the number of rapes in their crime profile to be low. Just remember when you read such numbers many more women were likely raped. She went on a downward spiral after
that. Me and my room mate searched the trash cans outside the rapiest room for his
social security so we could destroy him the nerd way, but he was to slick and we found no documents with his SSN(the school used your SSN as and ID).



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03 Oct 2006, 4:15 pm

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Your obviously too stupid to listen to what I'm saying logically.... AND HOW f*** DARE YOU b**** YOU PLAY REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY ON ME, IT'S NOT OUR FAULT WE'RE f*** TREATED LIKE FREAKS. Your f*** world is very different from ours, like I said, shut the f*** up about incel, you have no right to comment on it, no more than a german christian has the right to belittle the halucaust. By your statements you sound like a man-hating feminist. I'm not condoning rape, if you wanna twist my words then your gonna twist my words. I don't care, your a stupid ret*d.
Like I said, imagine, no matter HOW HARD YOU TRY, you could NEVER intimately bond with a compatible human being. It would f*** your mind up all to hell. No, it's not us, it's not OUR fault we're aspies, it's not OUR fault b*****s like you have such a narrow minded attitude. If you ask 5 men out, one of them will come home with you. An aspie man would have to literally ask thousands of girls. Remember b****, your the chasee, you hold the cards. Therefor you have no right to make a judgement on involuntary celibacy, because you don't live with it, you never have lived with it, and you won't ever live with it.


So my opinion doesn't matter does it? Wow, you're becoming more like Litigous everyday. At least you were nice enough to show you true colors.



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03 Oct 2006, 4:33 pm

Intimacy is a gift, not a right, nor a basic need.

I have no experience of it myself, so I can only guess as to how it can be obtained.

But I know that becoming bitter and hateful towards the opposite sex will do nothing to aid your situation.

Understand that they are people too, with their own thoughts and feelings, wants and desires.

And remember that females can be Incels, not just males.


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