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28 Dec 2011, 11:19 pm

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not sure what you are saying here... if think they would be lying about that then you should bother reading any threads at all as it would be entirely lies.

Not just about lies, but lies are always a possibility, I edited my post saying "people say one thing, claim one thing and rant about one thing, but actions are another thing."

And, how to tell if gets worse rather than the same?

you could tell from their posts (or statements IRL), though i am not sure whether some got worse or stayed the same.


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28 Dec 2011, 11:29 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
you could tell from their posts (or statements IRL), though i am not sure whether some got worse or stayed the same.

Judging from posts someone makes on an internet forum.. right, how reliable. Being one of the reasons this thread is a joke, and I'm being too stupid to even participate in here, so yeah, I'm at fault too.



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28 Dec 2011, 11:33 pm

blunnet wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
you could tell from their posts (or statements IRL), though i am not sure whether some got worse or stayed the same.

Judging from posts someone makes on an internet forum.. right, how reliable. Being one of the reasons this thread is a joke, and I'm being too stupid to even participate in here, so yeah, I'm at fault too.
well yes, all of WP is just posts.... i just accept them at face value, otherwise there's no point in posting at all.


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28 Dec 2011, 11:47 pm

It seems people are unable to relate to these feelings, or even understand them, especially women. It's not logical nor wished for, but I guess I'll just hate females (even more so than males) indefinitely.

I am surprised no one else has replied admitting their own misogyny though, either for my reasons or others.



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28 Dec 2011, 11:59 pm

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You could move to a muslim country where women are covered from head to toe.


Not all Muslim countries are like this, not by a long chalk - and the ones that are like this aren't nice places to live for this and other reasons.



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29 Dec 2011, 12:00 am

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It seems people are unable to relate to these feelings, or even understand them, especially women. It's not logical nor wished for, but I guess I'll just hate females (even more so than males) indefinitely.

I am surprised no one else has replied admitting their own misogyny though, either for my reasons or others.

is that what you were really seeking - to have people "out" themselves as misogynistic? or do you want help?

what type of therapy have you done before, and was your therapist aware of your misogyny?


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29 Dec 2011, 1:05 am

I agree with whoever has agreed with me: he isn't seeing things straight and getting laid might help, so it's worth a try.



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29 Dec 2011, 1:13 am

I made this thread just to get reactions about misogyny and my given reasons. I was wondering if it was strange or relatively normal.

I've lived hating females for so long I got very used to it. Just a pang of resentment and anger whenever I saw one, or even a picture of one. But lately my rage has become more uncomfortable, it has been darkening my mood and occupying my thoughts in unpleasant ways for extended periods. I think the impetus of this increased anger is partly from using this 'Love and Dating' forum.

I thought maybe if somebody could relate, they could offer an easy way to soothe my hatred. That has not been the outcome, as the suggestions are either arguing logic (which is irrelevant in this case), or advising sex/relationships.

Oh well, I guess it's just another unwelcome part of my character I will have to live with.



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29 Dec 2011, 2:27 am

Why not just masturbate? Afterwards, your sexual desire drops dramatically. (Albeit, temporarily.)
If it weren't for masturbation, I probably wouldn't still be a virgin myself.
I realize now that I don't really want a normal relationship with a woman anymore.
And after I masturbate, I know for sure I don't need one.

I have no idea why people suggest prostitutes, but then don't say a thing about masturbation.
Seriously, you can masturbate everyday, for free, without any complicated relationship.
And, trust me, going to a prostitute is really complicated. For someone who doesn't even want to go outside to get groceries at the grocery store, they aren't going to go search for a prostitute. (Seriously! How could you not realize how ridiculous it is to suggest this to someone with AS/HFA/ASD?)

Personally, I love women. I've been friends with women before in my life, and I always find them easy to talk to.

Based on your reactions to other people's advice, you don't want to be rid of your misogyny. Rather, you want to keep it so that you can remain celibate. Reality: That's your justification for misogyny. People with problems always come up with a reason to justify it so that they feel they aren't doing anything wrong. It just comes down to stop being in denial and accept that you are being selfish and silly.


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29 Dec 2011, 2:42 am

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Anyone else here just hate females?

I kind of hate everyone, but I have an especial rage against even remotely attractive females. I believe it's because I'm angry that I want them and will never get them (I'm celibate).

Logically I don't have any reason to despise females over males, but the frustration is just unbearable to the point I...

Well, yeh. How common is this? Any remedies (besides coming in contact with females)?


You're in immature phase of blaming others.

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29 Dec 2011, 3:31 am

I masturbate quite a lot. It used to 'take the edge off', but maybe after approximately 10,000 times it loses its effect.

I dunno, maybe after my libido dies I can be at peace with females. Then when I die I can be at peace.

I already see a therapist, but I will not start relationships. Why won't I start a relationship? Just....argh. For pretty much every reason there is.

I am aware I am not justified in resenting females. Emotions are not logical though. I just started hating females fiercely and I asked myself why.

I thought 'rejected', or otherwise sexless men might share my resentment. Some do, but it's not popular to admit it openly.



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29 Dec 2011, 3:50 am

When I was younger mate I used to hate the popular crowd. It made no sense to hate people because they had what I believed I never could. I don't feel that way any more. I think it's partly because I grew up and matured and partly because I became more comfortable with myself.

Don't worry about the way you feel. You are not a bad person. You are just fine the way you are.

Now go and get laid.



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29 Dec 2011, 4:27 am

I suppose what I resent is the attention given to attractive females and the way they flaunt it.



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29 Dec 2011, 4:33 am

DetestableInsect wrote:

I am aware I am not justified in resenting females. Emotions are not logical though. I just started hating females fiercely and I asked myself why.

I thought 'rejected', or otherwise sexless men might share my resentment. Some do, but it's not popular to admit it openly.


You're hating your failure with them, and you're projecting that hatred on them. The source of your hatred is your failure, not them.

Now, that might still a form of misogyny but it is not necessarily based on sexism, like you might not consider them inferior to men but you just hate them , am I right?

For instance, it is common for women who experienced harassment, domestic violence or rape to develop great misandry (or fear) due to bad experience with some people of the male gender, but they don't necessary develop sexism or discrimination.

In the OP case, he developed hatred toward women due to a bad experience with some women (rejection? ignorance?) or failure of getting a relationship with any of them.

But if it's all based on sexism, then it would be much harder to be cured.



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29 Dec 2011, 4:37 am

Face_of_Boo, I'm not sure what you're saying, are you saying that the failure is all his? That he is solely the causal mechanism in the failure? Or is it partly him and partly them, perhaps?

I hate psycho-analysis.



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29 Dec 2011, 4:47 am

anonymous-shyster wrote:
Face_of_Boo, I'm not sure what you're saying, are you saying that the failure is all his? That he is solely the causal mechanism in the failure? Or is it partly him and partly them, perhaps?

I hate psycho-analysis.


The past failure is all his, only when he accepts that fact he would refrain from being misogynistic.



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