Friendship with the opposite sex vs sexual selection.....

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There's a lot of information conveyed in things like posture, interaction, etc. Plus they gather information about people indirectly, through social networks.

That's part of why aspies have so much trouble. I don't think there's are any physical characteristics associated with AS (I could be wrong though).

If feromones were relevant, all the dating challenges in the world would be a perfume bottle away.

I once posted a picture of me flexing muscles on an open social network community. I got 15 winks in one day + numerous letters. I then changed to a picture where I did not and girls hit on me much less. Allthough I wasn't really buff back then, I was ripped like Tyler Durden.

I don't believe that fairytale wishy washy crap. Girls all have the "less hot" friend who they take with them places to make themselves look better. Thought granted it may be subconscious, You can see it all the time. Some girls even make it a point to ONLY associate with unattractive girls so they are the BEST looking in the group.

I think what you seem to be missing is, if I asked her out, the logical assumption is I found her to be attractive and therefore another girl who is at least as attractive as her would be the ideal replacement. not a girl who is multiple levels below her.

Yep, i had signed to a site that has member of the oposite sex judge you to enter. My good quality picture which i feel portrayed a bit of my personality was denied yet the one where i was shirtless and posing made it in. I then added the other picture and theres quite thr diference in ratigs

Also it's noticeable how predictable the outcome on this website, based on the first hour of rating you can guess the final outcome (same), as if the whole bunch has the same taste in looks.

Yep, that part was very true. It seems your ration only goes down with time, never up

With that pic



i got those results:



And i bet it won't change much.

I did according to hyper's link, i didn't smile, I am looking away but .... Lol

We're tasking quite specifically here about match making, and he is right about how women match make. How we select mates, that has been beaten to death, and a lot of it may be subconscious. In that case, it varies.

no, they don't. wow. just wow.

There is no "all" here. And, in fact, I disagree that it would even be most. In my experience, women tend to go on the prowl with women of similar attractiveness, which is actually more successful in general. Just because YOU see one hot girl in the group, does not mean SHE sees herself that way, OR that a different guy will pick the SAME woman as being the most attractive. You are far too hung up on the idea that there is one universal scale and that everyone knows what it is. That just is not the way it works.

In my single years, there were two groups I had gone out socially with. Early on, was the group created by my tiny, cute, blond friend. That was a such a dud for me, because despite the fact that I do not think my friend is particulary pretty, she is a prime flirt and men tend to think based on her looks that she is the sweetest thing ever to walk this earth, and there wasn't much group interaction. And, no one ever ended up dating, not even her, given that 99% of the time she passed over a fake phone number. Later, I went out with a group of diverse personailties and look types, no one stunning and no one who looked like a charity case, and it was easier to interact with groups of guys where one found himself drawn to A, another drawn to B, and so on. That results in dates. Point being, women aren't dumb, and few are going to stick with the arrangement you described long, so even though it probably does happen, it is NOT "all." You only think it is because, perhaps, at this point in your life, you only have eyes for those kinds of women.


In the end, of course, I didn't end up married to anyone from any of that. I married my sister's very good male friend. So old fashioned

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For once, I disagree with you. Pretty girls have pretty friends and ugly girls have ugly friends. I see this at my university more or less everyday.

Can I say this as a piece of advice? WHY do you take your pictures looking up at your face? It is sooo unflattering, everything is out of proportion. If you want the best results, find the most flattering angle for YOU, and forget all the stats.

Then specify that. Dont assume that women dont like eye candy and that a great personality is all thats needed. Sure it helps, but its not going to open doors, rather just keep them open.

Im quite sure that finding someone by looks and then seeing if they have personality is exactly how men operate.

I think there is slight truth in this, as people tend to group together by interest/upbringing. SO if you're into women with gobs and gobs of makeup dripping off their faces, and hair that has been bleached to oblivion, you're likely to see them grouped together b/c they share a common interest: makeup. Or, girls who are very athletic may go out with other athletic girls because they all do their karate class/weight lifting together. Very affluent girls will flock together, and they will obviously have more access to plastic surgery than someone from the working class. People don't do this intentionally, IMO, and only rarely will one girl be manipulative enough to purposefully bring a girl she thinks is "ugly" with her to pick up people. Of course, girls, just like men, come in all shapes and flavors--manipulative or genuine. Plus, there are always people who make friendships with people who are very different from them in appearance or personality--although it is common for groups to form around similarities.

Also, ethnic backgrounds often tend to flock together, not intentionally. My best friend in grade school was Greek/Mexican Indian. My best friend in high school was German/Latino. I'm English/Mexican Indian, and we just happened to get along together, not because we purposefully chose out people who looked the same--but it ended up that we did have a similar Anglo Euro/Latino Indigenous background.

Ultimately though--beauty is subjective. Who you find beautiful will not always find herself beautiful, nor will she be seen as beautiful by every guy. This is the truth I will definitely stand by.

I'm thinking I'm not organizing my thoughts all that well and, to be honest, I'm not really enjoying putting my head back into the dating world. It isn't the happiest place for me; too much guessing what other people think and most people getting it wrong (nothing personal to anyone, but that IS the world of dating). I just get this funny idea sometimes that I can help someone short cut some of the learning process and get better results ... Well, like I said, it's a funny idea.