My two hours with Mystery

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hussh....hyperlexian will spank us badly if we keep it naughty.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

youve not been hyperspanked have you?

I got my ass-shield this time.

something that i find disheartening is the forum "PUAhate". at first, i thought it would be a website devoted to people who are opposed to PUA stuff, but it's not. it's a forum for people who are angry that the PUA programs did not work. from what i saw of the site, members don't really question the morality or ethics of the programs, but instead get upset that they got ripped off. but i guess that the gross failure of such programs doesn't suddenly cause people to ask the hard questions.

i suppose in order to keep that in perspective i should remember that the vast majority of men would never employ such tactics. most people are pretty decent.

Unfortunately a lot of the subscribers to these programs are vulnerable AS males and depending how far along their social development is they might not question their own actions or the bigger picture of things, only the world revolving around them and why it hasn't served them well enough. I came to this conclusion based on my interactions in communities and also how I used to be when I was younger and offended women quite often when I thought I was either being nice or "doing them a favour".

I don't know about it targeting AS males. I imagine it's more virgins and as*holes.

Like any scam, it targets those that need/want what the scam claims to offer

Mostly as*holes, then.

Mystery describes most people at workshops on the game as geeks with low social skills.
Im pretty sure that rings some bells on this board

I don't know a thing about PUA but I do know that when I first started pursuing women I emulated aspecs of charismatic people that I'd known. Just a bit here or there. Things I'd seen. Maybe that's the draw for some. If you have no frame of reference, havent known charismatic people well or something like that, it might be worth seeing it in action.

Running scripts sounds nutty to me. But doing whatever it takes to push yourself into getting some experience sounds acceptable. As long as you realize that it's a crutch and that the goal is to develop your own confidence and way of being, not to copy other people or run scripts.

I saw the show when it was on VH1 several years ago and I was going through a phase where I enjoyed some of their dumb reality shows. I thought it was stupid but I did think it could help some really clueless people with their social skills.

I immediately think of the original American Pie when I see these things and not Aspies.

What about the averages (looks) who make do with other averages?

Wolfheart *is* good-looking, and people who find others attractive naturally find them, "funny" and "sweet" etc. Like me - I don't think I'm funny at all, but any man attracted to me who cracks jokes that make me laugh - they'll say I'm funny. "Sweet" can apply to most people, as well as "tattoos" and "gamer". Sorry to downplay the compliments, Wolfheart, but I did say you were good-looking.

So errrrr...

Oh thanks, hmm well I think you're right, people can see people through a rose tinted perspective or glasses when they are attracted to them. Looks are just looks really, sure, they're important when it comes to some aspects of physical attraction but I think mutual compatibility and understanding towards the greater good is the most important thing in a relationship.