Women are not attracted to me because I'm not 'masculine'?

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29 Mar 2013, 6:29 pm

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You are seriously telling a girl what she is supposed to like as a girl? :P My attraction is out of your control I'm afraid.
That's okay, he'll just make up some more admirer accounts on PoF and nab the images from Google. Who needs real admirers anyway? :)



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29 Mar 2013, 7:40 pm

:roll:

Regardless of how nice a person may look, there's nothing more revolting than narcissism.

[dancing and singing:] "Me! Glorious ME! Wonderful MEEEEeeeee!!"
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29 Mar 2013, 8:12 pm

So what is the point of arguing what women like?



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29 Mar 2013, 8:35 pm

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Regardless of how nice a person may look, there's nothing more revolting than narcissism.

[dancing and singing:] "Me! Glorious ME! Wonderful MEEEEeeeee!!"


please explain the difference between this and being "Confident" since I don't see much of one.. and confidence is constantly sold as the be all end all in attracting a mate if your a guy.

in statistics, there is a phrase which basically boils down to "The lower your confidence in the answer your giving, the smaller the chance is you've got it wrong".. and I kind of apply that to everything in life.

I'd rather be half-hearted and turn out to be right, than confident and wrong.



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29 Mar 2013, 10:09 pm

That's why I don't like the term confidence. I think it should be more similar to swagger.



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29 Mar 2013, 10:17 pm

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That's why I don't like the term confidence. I think it should be more similar to swagger.


Well I don't much like that word either.. it implies some one who has no clue what they are talking about but is delusional enough to convince you otherwise.

I mean being confident about something is so.. un-socrataic.. "a truly wiseman knows howmuch he doesn't know" kinda thing..



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30 Mar 2013, 12:13 am

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Wolf, that's not the first chat log with Courtney you have shared with us here and you have been asked to stop many enough times. You're not the only person with admirers here and most people here would give you more respect for yours if they didn't run away after meeting you IRL.

You are seriously telling a girl what she is supposed to like as a girl? :P My attraction is out of your control I'm afraid.

And yes, the guy you posted is hot :heart: I can't see the competitor, but if he is scruffy with beard and chest hair, I'll pass, thank you.


Nice try Lilya but they still let me do intimate and sexual things to them which was right for the guy I was last year, as for the hotel girl, she left because I started ignoring her texts and making plans with another girl and as for her, she left because I started having sex with a gamer girl mate and I have no idea why she left but she gave good oral. I might have not shared thousands of girls like "mystery" claims to have but he's not on the spectrum. As long as the girl let me get intimate with them because I could hide my indifference but only for so long, nothing else mattered and if Courtney and me do become an item, I won't hurt her because my mindset has changed, my goal last year was just getting sex through dating sites and I did that but now i'm ready to start taking things more serious and you've got to give me a chance and believe in me, Lilya.



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30 Mar 2013, 12:28 am

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Wolf, that's not the first chat log with Courtney you have shared with us here and you have been asked to stop many enough times. You're not the only person with admirers here and most people here would give you more respect for yours if they didn't run away after meeting you IRL.

You are seriously telling a girl what she is supposed to like as a girl? :P My attraction is out of your control I'm afraid.

And yes, the guy you posted is hot :heart: I can't see the competitor, but if he is scruffy with beard and chest hair, I'll pass, thank you.


Nice try Lilya but they still let me do intimate and sexual things to them which was right for the guy I was last year, as for the hotel girl, she left because I started ignoring her texts and making plans with another girl and as for her, she left because I started having sex with a gamer girl mate and I have no idea why she left but she gave good oral. I might have not shared thousands of girls like "mystery" claims to have but he's not on the spectrum. As long as the girl let me get intimate with them because I could hide my indifference but only for so long, nothing else mattered and if Courtney and me do become an item, I won't hurt her because my mindset has changed, my goal last year was just getting sex through dating sites and I did that but now i'm ready to start taking things more serious and you've got to give me a chance and believe in me, Lilya.


I'm confused. Are you trying to hit on lilya? Cause that's how it looks like from the outside. And posts like that don't help, make you sound like the whole bragging deal to get chicks.



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30 Mar 2013, 1:22 am

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Lilya wrote:
Wolf, that's not the first chat log with Courtney you have shared with us here and you have been asked to stop many enough times. You're not the only person with admirers here and most people here would give you more respect for yours if they didn't run away after meeting you IRL.

You are seriously telling a girl what she is supposed to like as a girl? :P My attraction is out of your control I'm afraid.

And yes, the guy you posted is hot :heart: I can't see the competitor, but if he is scruffy with beard and chest hair, I'll pass, thank you.


Nice try Lilya but they still let me do intimate and sexual things to them which was right for the guy I was last year, as for the hotel girl, she left because I started ignoring her texts and making plans with another girl and as for her, she left because I started having sex with a gamer girl mate and I have no idea why she left but she gave good oral. I might have not shared thousands of girls like "mystery" claims to have but he's not on the spectrum. As long as the girl let me get intimate with them because I could hide my indifference but only for so long, nothing else mattered and if Courtney and me do become an item, I won't hurt her because my mindset has changed, my goal last year was just getting sex through dating sites and I did that but now i'm ready to start taking things more serious and you've got to give me a chance and believe in me, Lilya.


I'm confused. Are you trying to hit on lilya? Cause that's how it looks like from the outside. And posts like that don't help, make you sound like the whole bragging deal to get chicks.


I don't know what you're talking about but Lilya has been like a big sister to me and she offered me advice but not everything is in black and white, not everything is a matter of good and evil. It's like a colour palette, people want things to be black and white, they want to create a linear world where they put everything and everyone into boxes and one dimensional perspectives without accounting for all the the other colours. It isn't like that in reality, things aren't in black and white, not everyone ends up with their high school sweetheart, not everyone goes to prom, not everyone

We all want to believe we're doing what we are doing for the greater good, to inspire good well at least that's what I want and I can still inspire good in people but I might first learn what it truly means from a perspective of being non biased. For every view you take or every cause to arms you take, there's always someone you are opposing, someone you aren't pleasing and someone who doesn't understand that hard choices must be made.

As well as having good and bad influences in my life, I managed to quit taking steroids and I'm still getting stronger everyday, now the doctor is helping me quit my addiction to diazepam and I am not perfect by a long shot but I work hard everyday, I'm focusing on positive things, running my business and working out in the gym helps me to stay focused and busy and they are a good distraction. I have no intention to use women or relationships for my own gain, I think relationships should be selflessly mutual and loving but the world doesn't work out like that all the time, justice isn't always served but I know I'll be doing what I love and I am passionate about.

I have stayed true to myself and honoured my intentions, me and my friends agreed on rules like never taking advantage of a drunk girl or never using a weapon to fight and I will stand by those principles. I would never hurt those who are unarmed if I am armed myself and I will not outnumber people in the way I have been outnumbered. I have a few key principles that I stick by and I have stuck by them so I haven't compromised. So am I just? In some aspects, yes but I also realize everyone is fallible.



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30 Mar 2013, 1:22 am

MXH wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
Lilya wrote:
Wolf, that's not the first chat log with Courtney you have shared with us here and you have been asked to stop many enough times. You're not the only person with admirers here and most people here would give you more respect for yours if they didn't run away after meeting you IRL.

You are seriously telling a girl what she is supposed to like as a girl? :P My attraction is out of your control I'm afraid.

And yes, the guy you posted is hot :heart: I can't see the competitor, but if he is scruffy with beard and chest hair, I'll pass, thank you.


Nice try Lilya but they still let me do intimate and sexual things to them which was right for the guy I was last year, as for the hotel girl, she left because I started ignoring her texts and making plans with another girl and as for her, she left because I started having sex with a gamer girl mate and I have no idea why she left but she gave good oral. I might have not shared thousands of girls like "mystery" claims to have but he's not on the spectrum. As long as the girl let me get intimate with them because I could hide my indifference but only for so long, nothing else mattered and if Courtney and me do become an item, I won't hurt her because my mindset has changed, my goal last year was just getting sex through dating sites and I did that but now i'm ready to start taking things more serious and you've got to give me a chance and believe in me, Lilya.


I'm confused. Are you trying to hit on lilya? Cause that's how it looks like from the outside. And posts like that don't help, make you sound like the whole bragging deal to get chicks.


I'm just as confused as you are!

I don't understand the purpose of the chat logs, I don't know how you can tell someone what they should like, and I don't know why we needed to know about all of the sexual escapades. All of that could have been sent in a PM.

What were we talking about again??? :roll:



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30 Mar 2013, 1:26 am

IlovemyAspie wrote:
MXH wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
Lilya wrote:
Wolf, that's not the first chat log with Courtney you have shared with us here and you have been asked to stop many enough times. You're not the only person with admirers here and most people here would give you more respect for yours if they didn't run away after meeting you IRL.

You are seriously telling a girl what she is supposed to like as a girl? :P My attraction is out of your control I'm afraid.

And yes, the guy you posted is hot :heart: I can't see the competitor, but if he is scruffy with beard and chest hair, I'll pass, thank you.


Nice try Lilya but they still let me do intimate and sexual things to them which was right for the guy I was last year, as for the hotel girl, she left because I started ignoring her texts and making plans with another girl and as for her, she left because I started having sex with a gamer girl mate and I have no idea why she left but she gave good oral. I might have not shared thousands of girls like "mystery" claims to have but he's not on the spectrum. As long as the girl let me get intimate with them because I could hide my indifference but only for so long, nothing else mattered and if Courtney and me do become an item, I won't hurt her because my mindset has changed, my goal last year was just getting sex through dating sites and I did that but now i'm ready to start taking things more serious and you've got to give me a chance and believe in me, Lilya.


I'm confused. Are you trying to hit on lilya? Cause that's how it looks like from the outside. And posts like that don't help, make you sound like the whole bragging deal to get chicks.


I'm just as confused as you are!

I don't understand the purpose of the chat logs, I don't know how you can tell someone what they should like, and I don't know why we needed to know about all of the sexual escapades. All of that could have been sent in a PM.

What were we talking about again??? :roll:


To make you realize that not everything happens ideally, not everyone scenario can be played out in black and white.



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30 Mar 2013, 2:02 am

So many words, so little communication.

...and so many excuses for doing whatever the hell one wants with no regard for others.



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30 Mar 2013, 2:40 am

BlueMax wrote:
So many words, so little communication.

...and so many excuses for doing whatever the hell one wants with no regard for others.


I said they weren't ideal circumstances and situations, I have accepted that my behaviour played a part in that but I am ready to grow and learn from it.



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30 Mar 2013, 9:02 am

Wolfheart wrote:
Lilya wrote:
Wolf, that's not the first chat log with Courtney you have shared with us here and you have been asked to stop many enough times. You're not the only person with admirers here and most people here would give you more respect for yours if they didn't run away after meeting you IRL.

You are seriously telling a girl what she is supposed to like as a girl? :P My attraction is out of your control I'm afraid.

And yes, the guy you posted is hot :heart: I can't see the competitor, but if he is scruffy with beard and chest hair, I'll pass, thank you.


Nice try Lilya but they still let me do intimate and sexual things to them which was right for the guy I was last year, as for the hotel girl, she left because I started ignoring her texts and making plans with another girl and as for her, she left because I started having sex with a gamer girl mate and I have no idea why she left but she gave good oral. I might have not shared thousands of girls like "mystery" claims to have but he's not on the spectrum. As long as the girl let me get intimate with them because I could hide my indifference but only for so long, nothing else mattered and if Courtney and me do become an item, I won't hurt her because my mindset has changed, my goal last year was just getting sex through dating sites and I did that but now i'm ready to start taking things more serious and you've got to give me a chance and believe in me, Lilya.


So you're not a virgin and have in fact used a number of girls just for sex. Congratulations. All that detail was really unnecessary and not a pleasant reading.

I am glad, though that for once, you actually ADMIT that you have acted wrong. And if it's true that you have left steroids and seek help, I do support that and wish the very best with it.

However, everything about your new found journey to become a better person is nothing but sweet words and manipulation unless you actually start to live as you preach. Within one week alone for several times you have done everything you have been strongly discouraged to do and there's been absolutely no sign in you having become better other than your own words, not to mention that you are still more than keen to make up excuses after another.

There is no use asking for mine or anyone else's forgiveness until you show in your acts and not words that you are working for the change.


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30 Mar 2013, 11:00 am

Maybe these online female friends of yours just prefer a more masculine appearence a lot of females like more feminine looking guys. I mean that is their opinion doesn't mean its nessisarily true of all females or that no female would ever be interested. I mean maybe you've known them for 3 years but if you only know them online they can't possibly know if that's the reason.

Guess what I am saying is perhaps take it with a grain of salt, and trying to over-compensate for a percieved lack of masculinity is probably more of a turn off than a more feminine appearance but that's just my opinion.


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30 Mar 2013, 11:09 am

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Maybe these online female friends of yours just prefer a more masculine appearence a lot of females like more feminine looking guys. I mean that is their opinion doesn't mean its nessisarily true of all females or that no female would ever be interested. I mean maybe you've known them for 3 years but if you only know them online they can't possibly know if that's the reason.

Guess what I am saying is perhaps take it with a grain of salt, and trying to over-compensate for a percieved lack of masculinity is probably more of a turn off than a more feminine appearance but that's just my opinion.


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