are men chasing after small percent of single women
I didn't read the whole thread btw, I just read that there are 80-something single men to 100 women.
Men die younger. A lot of single women are in their 60's and 70's though. Every man from 20 to 60 wants women in the age range of 20-28, so these women are very sought after. So the best place to target would be 28-38 if you want to avoid competition and still get good looks.
Not me though. I am too emotionally immature to be comfortable around older women.
Do you really consider 60 and 70 year old widows single? I kind of thought that when you got that old that it didn't count.
I found a stat online from the census bureau that 51.3% of males and 52.5% of females between the ages of 18 and 65 were married, but 73.1% of males and 40.8% of females above the age of 65 were married. So in the group probably most interested in dating, the odds are about even.
many older people are interested in dating. if you google something along the lines of "senior citizen women dating" you will see what i mean - it is not at all uncommon. the desire for companionship (among other things) does not necessarily fade.
i would imagine!
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Normally I detest big bang theory but it just fits.......
to show how internet nice guys, and MRA guys who complain how they can't get date, because they are always chasing after a small percent of women, that every other guys wants too.
when they can't get these type of women to date them, they try to make it look like these type of women represent the entire female population.
I done some research and found out that most of what MRA and internet nice guys say is full of crap. these mra and internet nice guys get pissed off when some woman reject them, but yet these same men, reject women all the time, usually fat women, older women.
and these mra and internet nice guys, keep going after the same small percent of women, that they have no chance with. and they get same results.
'I mislead in the title, he should be more why do mra and internet nice guys go after a small percent of women''.
Yeah man, you're figuring it out. Good job! I think even average and some nice-looking women get overlooked by these losers. I know a super f**** up aspie guy who is a 27-year-old virgin and says he is only willing to date tall skinny blondes (he's literally 5'6 and skinny). There are plenty of fine-looking, gorgeous women to get overlooked by some of these folks.
So, let him? Tall skinny blondes aren't necessarily beautiful. I know plenty. If these three are his only criteria then he might actually have a chance.
By the way, I know an aspie guy who's only willing to date girls with freckles. And it bothers him that he's still a virgin.
Having these rigid rules on what they must have in a partner gives a person a sense of importance - they need to do this to make up for the insecurity they feel at not having much/any success with relationships. It's all bravado.
Until you can click your fingers and have women come running you are in no position at all to 'demand' any particular features
and it makes the people who take this stance look ridiculous as in 'Try finding someone before you start specifying so many requirements ffs!' Most people will think this, even if they don't say it.
Yes but what I don't understand is where your confidence comes from in thinking you deserve someone impossibly good looking/perfect?
Don't you look at yourself and think there might be some disparity in looks etc?
Why do most men thik they 'deserve' some perfect looking woman??
If I was with a perfect looking man I'd hate it as I'd know everyone would be thinking 'What's he doing with her??'
What do these men think of their own looks to think they deserve someone perfect?? Do they think theyr'e good looking too
or don't thy think their own looks come into the equation?
If I could pick any man I'd never pick a very good looking one anyway - I'd pick someone I already knew and liked, who
matched me in looks
What makes you think you qualify for some stunning looking woman though?
I'm just curious as to what qualities you will be offering the woman to make her feel she's getting a
worthy partner
Put another way, what makes you think the woman of your dreams would be interested in you?
No one's saying you have to accept anyone you don't like; I'm trying to understand what you have to offer yourself
I don't think you realise that relationships are a transaction - a woman might bring stunning looks to the table so what are
you bringing yourself? Equally stunning looks? A brilliant wit? Intelligence?
If what you bring to the table isn't as good as or better than what the other person brings, the relationship usually won't happen
That's the point I'm making
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What makes you think you qualify for some stunning looking woman though?
I'm just curious as to what qualities you will be offering the woman to make her feel she's getting a
worthy partner
Put another way, what makes you think the woman of your dreams would be interested in you?
No one's saying you have to accept anyone you don't like; I'm trying to understand what you have to offer yourself
I don't think you realise that relationships are a transaction - a woman might bring stunning looks to the table so what are
you bringing yourself? Equally stunning looks? A brilliant wit? Intelligence?
If what you bring to the table isn't as good as or better than what the other person brings, the relationship usually won't happen
That's the point I'm making
Nessa, as much as we're always fighting, I 100% agree with you here. There's nothing more I could add, except that I think the proper criteria should be even less clearly defined than what you imply.
In the past, I've tried to make matches logically and intellectually. It just doesn't work. Lists are stupid. I have come to the conclusion that a good match should be 100% based on how the person makes you feel, not quantitative criteria. Does it feel right? Then it's right. Is it because this person checks all the boxes on your list? Beware; it's not going to work, if you even find someone to check boxes.
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Put another way, what makes you think the woman of your dreams would be interested in you?
No one's saying you have to accept anyone you don't like; I'm trying to understand what you have to offer yourself
Again, I never said anything about “deserving”, and “qualifying for” is just a synonym. I’m fully aware no woman at all in her right mind would want a relationship with me in my current state, and very probably never will, but this is beside the point. You seemed to be denying unattractive men the freedom to set their own standards, even if they’ll never be with anyone meeting them. If this is not the case, I don’t know what the fuss is about.
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Put another way, what makes you think the woman of your dreams would be interested in you?
No one's saying you have to accept anyone you don't like; I'm trying to understand what you have to offer yourself
Again, I never said anything about “deserving”, and “qualifying for” is just a synonym. I’m fully aware no woman at all in her right mind would want a relationship with me in my current state, and very probably never will, but this is beside the point. You seemed to be denying unattractive men the freedom to set their own standards, even if they’ll never be with anyone meeting them. If this is not the case, I don’t know what the fuss is about.
I don't think you understand the question I'm asking
I'm asking why you have these 'high' standards and what would happen if they were met ie the girl of your dreams
turned up and wanted to go out with you
Tell me how you envisage the relationship working out ie give me some scenarios of how you'd act and feel on meeting her,
going out somewhere with her and introducing her to your friends and family ie do you think it would work out 'in the real
world'?
I think it's the very fact that you have these fantasies of being with the perfect woman rather than a real life more average woman that mean you have such difficulty getting together with someone ie your fantasies aren't based in reality
Yes you can fantasise about whoever you like, but the more perfect the person you fantasise about it, the more unattainable they will be in real life
So it's not a practical strategy at all as it takes you further from your goal (ie finding a partner) instead of closer to it
People who have success with relationships tend to fantasise about the attainable not the unattainable
I don’t actually have them. It was a working hypothesis for the sake of the argument, because you seemed to say unattractive men in general should lower them.
turned up and wanted to go out with you
I’ve never really bothered to think what “the girl of my dreams” might be like. It seems like a huge waste of time to me.
I don’t.
My point is that when you have exactly zero chances to begin with, they won’t decrease any further, no matter what your tastes are, so there’s no point in forcing yourself to change them. I also don’t understand why this seems to annoy you.
I’d never say an unattractive woman should lower her standards. I can’t be in her shoes, but, judging by what I usually hear and read, being with a man she doesn’t like would be far worse than being alone, and suggesting otherwise is tantamount to justifying rape. Few things usually offend a woman more than suggesting she should accept a man she doesn’t like just because she can’t have anything better. Why shouldn’t the same apply to men?
There’s no “practical” strategy to achieve an impossible goal. There’s no point in worrying about that.
Which only works when there is actually something attainable. Why do you worry so much about fantasies of others with no consequence for anybody other than themselves?
I get what nessa238 is trying to say. She's not worried about your fantasies or standards, but pointing out that being totally focused on the fantasy may cause you to lose sight of those high quality people around you.
Attractiveness is subjective, so why put yourself in that category? Who would you measure yourself against? This mindset is what hurts guys the most,imo. It's this, not arrogance even if it may read that way occasionally.
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