Nerds Aren’t Sexy
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I find nerds a lot more attractive than pompous a**holes, at least if nothing else they probably have interesting things to talk about besides how much bigger their penis is than the next guy. Though some nerds are pompous a**holes to, and I don't like those ones.
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If you're an obese guy it's at least possible to bulk up on muscle and lose fat until you look like a football lineman with a bit of a gut rather than a blob. Hard work but maybe worth it. I think women can be attracted to the fat and strong look. You can try having a body like a jock even if you hate sports and are the biggest nerd.
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If you're an obese guy it's at least possible to bulk up on muscle and lose fat until you look like a football lineman with a bit of a gut rather than a blob. Hard work but maybe worth it. I think women can be attracted to the fat and strong look. You can try having a body like a jock even if you hate sports and are the biggest nerd.
Yeah, I've met ripped nerds before. Pretty cool. Furthermore, it's always possible to be as thin as you want just by regulating your food intake.
If you're an obese guy it's at least possible to bulk up on muscle and lose fat until you look like a football lineman with a bit of a gut rather than a blob. Hard work but maybe worth it. I think women can be attracted to the fat and strong look. You can try having a body like a jock even if you hate sports and are the biggest nerd.
Or you can just not do it and not care. I'm more strong/athletic/low bodyfat than I think I've ever been in my life, and I'm also in general loneliest.
Body image issues solved does not equal having tons of friends/girlfriends.
EDIT. I pretty much am a jock and a nerd now. Seriously, I spent like 3 hours (not counting gardening) exercising today. And both nerds and jocks hate me now, because I don't fit clearly into either group. I had way more friends when I did nerdier crap and didn't have any athletic goals/aspirations. In my case, my athletic goals are basically nerdy as s**t and don't really consist too much of "GET RIPPED AND COOL LOOKING TO PICK UP CHICKS" but still.
Also I read giant six part articles like this:
http://www.sportivnypress.com/documents/SUB_51.html
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If you're an obese guy it's at least possible to bulk up on muscle and lose fat until you look like a football lineman with a bit of a gut rather than a blob. Hard work but maybe worth it. I think women can be attracted to the fat and strong look. You can try having a body like a jock even if you hate sports and are the biggest nerd.
Or you can just not do it and not care. I'm more strong/athletic/low bodyfat than I think I've ever been in my life, and I'm also in general loneliest.
Body image issues solved does not equal having tons of friends/girlfriends.
EDIT. I pretty much am a jock and a nerd now. Seriously, I spent like 3 hours (not counting gardening) exercising today. And both nerds and jocks hate me now, because I don't fit clearly into either group. I had way more friends when I did nerdier crap and didn't have any athletic goals/aspirations. In my case, my athletic goals are basically nerdy as sh** and don't really consist too much of "GET RIPPED AND COOL LOOKING TO PICK UP CHICKS" but still.
Also I read giant six part articles like this:
http://www.sportivnypress.com/documents/SUB_51.html
I think jocks can be more accepting because they usually have a lower level of sophistication and intelligence. Which can be a good thing. White rich kids not only have a higher IQ, they have a high EQ as well and are ridiculously socially sophisticated in ways I could never be. Give me some macho gansters with an average to below-average IQ, and my social sophistication and theirs are pretty comparable. They are experts at reading people and avoiding B.S., as am I, but they still lack a level of class and sophistication, which I do also. Some of them are as pissed off at society as I (and probably a lot of people here) are, so there is something I and they often have in common.
So during those times I work out enough to fit int physically (definitely not at the moment, as I'm in school and going through some borderline and ptsd s**t), that can be a fairly good fit. I have learned quite a bit from having black male friends from the hood in years past. Learning boxing was a great hobby that made some good friends a few years ago.
If you're an obese guy it's at least possible to bulk up on muscle and lose fat until you look like a football lineman with a bit of a gut rather than a blob. Hard work but maybe worth it. I think women can be attracted to the fat and strong look. You can try having a body like a jock even if you hate sports and are the biggest nerd.
Or you can just not do it and not care. I'm more strong/athletic/low bodyfat than I think I've ever been in my life, and I'm also in general loneliest.
Body image issues solved does not equal having tons of friends/girlfriends.
EDIT. I pretty much am a jock and a nerd now. Seriously, I spent like 3 hours (not counting gardening) exercising today. And both nerds and jocks hate me now, because I don't fit clearly into either group. I had way more friends when I did nerdier crap and didn't have any athletic goals/aspirations. In my case, my athletic goals are basically nerdy as sh** and don't really consist too much of "GET RIPPED AND COOL LOOKING TO PICK UP CHICKS" but still.
Also I read giant six part articles like this:
http://www.sportivnypress.com/documents/SUB_51.html
I think jocks can be more accepting because they usually have a lower level of sophistication and intelligence. Which can be a good thing. White rich kids not only have a higher IQ, they have a high EQ as well and are ridiculously socially sophisticated in ways I could never be. Give me some macho gansters with an average to below-average IQ, and my social sophistication and theirs are pretty comparable. They are experts at reading people and avoiding B.S., as am I, but they still lack a level of class and sophistication, which I do also. I have low affective empathy and sometimes some of the same antisocial traits, though in milder form.
So during those times I work out enough to fit int physically (definitely not at the moment, as I'm in school and going through some borderline and ptsd sh**), that can be a fairly good fit. I have learned quite a bit from having black male friends from the hood in years past. Learning boxing was a great hobby that made some good friends a few years ago.
Yeah, it's not bad actually. Jocks seem to just think I'm sorta kinda weird but am amazed at my strength/ability in some aspects. My problems mainly are like, I don't wanna be a gangster macho person. Plus I don't like getting in trouble/risky situations those types of people tend to draw to themselves. I was more talking jocks in the preppy "I play hockey for a private college look at me" kinda way. So more the rich white kids. Yes, I'm around lots of rich white kids due to the state I live in. Let's see, I have the opposite problem. I have a fair amount of class and sophistication (enough to get served alcohol at like 18 due to people thinking I'm older) but can't read people worth a damn at all. I've even been told by psychologists I have better social skills than most people my age, but I guess it translates to like in Idiocracy "You talk like a fag and your s**t's all ret*d." in the real world.
But meh, by doing what I do now and not just watching anime and playing games with my friends, I've just isolated the s**t out of myself. Figure skating is a sport for rich white people (who generally hate me.) Then I spend time in the gym and I'm surrounded by nobody with really similar training goals, everyone either does bodybuilding, or sometimes Crossfit by themselves (or with their friends or girlfriends,) and Crossfit is sorta similar, but it's a cult based on Greg Glassman picking random exercises out for the Crossfit peons to do.
I used to go to an anime convention to socialize with people like once a month. It was fun, but now anime isn't even apart of the convention anymore. It's just a general "nerd" convention, and their biggest money maker is board games and card games, which makes sense as it brings people together. But I only care about anime, and to a smaller extent video gaming. So now it's just a weird vague Neapolitan type convention. My friend said last time he went in the anime screening room they watched "Life of Pi."
I might be making friends with these two dudes who started skating for exercise at my rink who are also "nerds." I also used to go to a Pentecostalish church where I had a lot of friends, but that got lost when I left. Let's see, one of my "nerd" friends I've known since high school like disowned me or something since leaving said church. Now I'm Orthodox and there's like no youth Orthodox and it's just rich adults with cool lives as engineers and teachers stuff who tell me how I have so much potential and am so smart and could do so much more if I just applied myself or something.
Anyway, working out is cool and stuff, but no, it won't do anything amazing to your social life/love life if you suck at socializing/are a terrible person to be around who rambles on about his special interests.
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I think I've realized the general trend in my life is that I value more doing whatever I want even if I don't fit into the social group or it will ostracize me from the social group. So skating for example, is a sport socially, where I do not belong at all (seriously, the USFSA gives out reimbursements for "promising" youths whose parents make under 200K a year, this is an idea of how rich of a sport it is.) But I just do the activity anyway. I've only recently figured out people factor in social groups into decisions about activities they wanna do. Like I realized this a bit before in high school, but didn't connect it to adulthood as well. Like after I got out of high school for example, I pretty much stopped listening to metal/etc very often, as none of my friends listened to it, and there was nobody to be "cool" for anymore, and then I just started listening to Japanese pop and techno all the time. Now I listen to Michelle Branch and Vanessa Carlton. Why? Cuz I can. Nobody can like, stop me anymore. But seriously, being "unique" like that is not a good way to make friends. But I guess I value listening to Vanessa Carlton and Michelle Branch more than making friends?
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If you're an obese guy it's at least possible to bulk up on muscle and lose fat until you look like a football lineman with a bit of a gut rather than a blob. Hard work but maybe worth it. I think women can be attracted to the fat and strong look. You can try having a body like a jock even if you hate sports and are the biggest nerd.
Or you can just not do it and not care. I'm more strong/athletic/low bodyfat than I think I've ever been in my life, and I'm also in general loneliest.
Body image issues solved does not equal having tons of friends/girlfriends.
EDIT. I pretty much am a jock and a nerd now. Seriously, I spent like 3 hours (not counting gardening) exercising today. And both nerds and jocks hate me now, because I don't fit clearly into either group. I had way more friends when I did nerdier crap and didn't have any athletic goals/aspirations. In my case, my athletic goals are basically nerdy as sh** and don't really consist too much of "GET RIPPED AND COOL LOOKING TO PICK UP CHICKS" but still.
Also I read giant six part articles like this:
http://www.sportivnypress.com/documents/SUB_51.html
I think jocks can be more accepting because they usually have a lower level of sophistication and intelligence. Which can be a good thing. White rich kids not only have a higher IQ, they have a high EQ as well and are ridiculously socially sophisticated in ways I could never be. Give me some macho gansters with an average to below-average IQ, and my social sophistication and theirs are pretty comparable. They are experts at reading people and avoiding B.S., as am I, but they still lack a level of class and sophistication, which I do also. I have low affective empathy and sometimes some of the same antisocial traits, though in milder form.
So during those times I work out enough to fit int physically (definitely not at the moment, as I'm in school and going through some borderline and ptsd sh**), that can be a fairly good fit. I have learned quite a bit from having black male friends from the hood in years past. Learning boxing was a great hobby that made some good friends a few years ago.
Yeah, it's not bad actually. Jocks seem to just think I'm sorta kinda weird but am amazed at my strength/ability in some aspects. My problems mainly are like, I don't wanna be a gangster macho person. Plus I don't like getting in trouble/risky situations those types of people tend to draw to themselves. I was more talking jocks in the preppy "I play hockey for a private college look at me" kinda way. So more the rich white kids. Yes, I'm around lots of rich white kids due to the state I live in. Let's see, I have the opposite problem. I have a fair amount of class and sophistication (enough to get served alcohol at like 18 due to people thinking I'm older) but can't read people worth a damn at all. I've even been told by psychologists I have better social skills than most people my age, but I guess it translates to like in Idiocracy "You talk like a fag and your sh**'s all ret*d." in the real world.
But meh, by doing what I do now and not just watching anime and playing games with my friends, I've just isolated the sh** out of myself. Figure skating is a sport for rich white people (who generally hate me.) Then I spend time in the gym and I'm surrounded by nobody with really similar training goals, everyone either does bodybuilding, or sometimes Crossfit by themselves (or with their friends or girlfriends,) and Crossfit is sorta similar, but it's a cult based on Greg Glassman picking random exercises out for the Crossfit peons to do.
I used to go to an anime convention to socialize with people like once a month. It was fun, but now anime isn't even apart of the convention anymore. It's just a general "nerd" convention, and their biggest money maker is board games and card games, which makes sense as it brings people together. But I only care about anime, and to a smaller extent video gaming. So now it's just a weird vague Neapolitan type convention. My friend said last time he went in the anime screening room they watched "Life of Pi."
I might be making friends with these two dudes who started skating for exercise at my rink who are also "nerds." I also used to go to a Pentecostalish church where I had a lot of friends, but that got lost when I left. Let's see, one of my "nerd" friends I've known since high school like disowned me or something since leaving said church. Now I'm Orthodox and there's like no youth Orthodox and it's just rich adults with cool lives as engineers and teachers stuff who tell me how I have so much potential and am so smart and could do so much more if I just applied myself or something.
Anyway, working out is cool and stuff, but no, it won't do anything amazing to your social life/love life if you suck at socializing/are a terrible person to be around who rambles on about his special interests.
I am intellectually sophisticated, just not socially or ethically sophisticated. If you don't read people, you probably aren't either. You probably have a low EQ also. But guess what? Some NT's do as well. We are not the only ones who think empathy sucks. It's just not the rich white kids (usually); they have way too much empathy. I tend to think like people in the hood in some respects. I grew up isolated on a farm, so I have no idea how I got this way. But I have similar thought patterns with hood residents in SOME areas (oh definitely, definitely, definitely not in others!!).
I always hung out with guys--especially in the military and somewhat in law school--who had made peace with the establishment but came from a background like that, so classmates and stuff. It doesn't always lead to risky situations, and it hasn't for me since 2010.
I think you're right about figure skating. In fact, cross-fit itself is kind of a rich white kid sport, not always, but it can be. Why don't you take up a fighting sport? I started boxing in 2009, and it helped a lot socially. Wasn't nearly as intimidated by rich white kids either. Among fellow white people, I only really talk to girls anyway; I don't really talk to white men.
I think reading people can be learned more easily when people are as blunt as folks from the hood often are. So you should give it a try. Pick a fighting sport and try to meet some non-rich white guys (and girls!!) through that.
Because I simply don't wanna fight. I like figure skating. More than I'd like fighting. I get my "grr super aggression grrr" out by like...deadlifting or something. It's not my style, fighting sports. If I did do one, I'd probably do judo again, I'd really like to do tai chi sometime in my life. I find it very impressive. Right now skating is the concentration, though. I've given up aspirations of trying to be competitive in lifting, and just do it as far as it helps my skating now (which it has remarkably.)
Like, Georges Laraques, he was a hockey player known actually for his crappy skating skills, and the amount of fights he'd gotten into on the ice. He's a 300something pound like 6'5 black guy. After hockey, he got into figure skating, he said he'd have traded his hockey career for a figure skating one in hindsight. I don't know, despite nobody liking me, I really do like it.
As I said in my edit, I guess I like things more than people.
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Also, like you somewhat, my best friend is a half black guy. He's taught me a lot, because his very hard life due to that made him learn how to read people very well. And uh, I've got lots of experience with people from "the hood" and in fact live in "the hood" now and am one of my only family members to like, go outside and talk to my neighbors and stuff. I can't say it's all positive, but meh.
I feel most at home in like, libertarian land of Vermont/New Hampshire, except for the weed smoking thing.
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Like, Georges Laraques, he was a hockey player known actually for his crappy skating skills, and the amount of fights he'd gotten into on the ice. He's a 300something pound like 6'5 black guy. After hockey, he got into figure skating, he said he'd have traded his hockey career for a figure skating one in hindsight. I don't know, despite nobody liking me, I really do like it.
As I said in my edit, I guess I like things more than people.
EDIT:
Also, like you somewhat, my best friend is a half black guy. He's taught me a lot, because his very hard life due to that made him learn how to read people very well. And uh, I've got lots of experience with people from "the hood" and in fact live in "the hood" now and am one of my only family members to like, go outside and talk to my neighbors and stuff. I can't say it's all positive, but meh.
I feel most at home in like, libertarian land of Vermont/New Hampshire, except for the weed smoking thing.
My best friends at the moment are girls. I move around a lot, across the globe, and I live in a pretty rich white environment at the moment, so that's the way it is. Not a lot of people like your friend around here, which sucks in some ways. It really depends on where I live, to be honest, also on my mental state when I am in that place. Having a rougher time usually means more female friends, who are more empathetic, and more likely to struggle with/understand similar issues like the PTSD and borderline. Having s**t together more usually means more male friends.