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16 Nov 2013, 8:01 am

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Do you need a hug today or something?



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16 Nov 2013, 8:05 am

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Do you need a hug today or something?


I've never been considered very dignified when offended.

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If someone doesn't want to recognise the skill in NASCAR, then that's their choice.


There's a difference between believing there's no skill to NASCAR, and dickishly expressing such a sentiment to someone who's invested hours of their lives into it. You could probably do well to take that social lesson yourself, sonny boy.



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16 Nov 2013, 8:05 am

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^ Whenever I offend people I usually wanna know about it so that I can figure out better ways of handling similar situations in the future. When expressing your personal disinterest or dislike of something to someone clearly into that very thing themselves, it pays to be more delicate in your approach. Consider it your free social lesson from a seasoned veteran of the NT trenches.


As do I, but you're kind of going about it the wrong way when you're jumping to conclusions and not explaining why you're upset. I can't figure out why you're upset unless you're stating it clearly. The only thing I was reading was that you were upset because I didn't like dancing. I saw nothing else. There were no other clues to guide me. I can't help but be blunt and honest with what I do and do not like. That's who I am. I make friends and sometimes I don't. It's only when those people clearly explain their issue that we can move on and resolve it.



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16 Nov 2013, 8:07 am

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As do I, but you're kind of going about it the wrong way when you're jumping to conclusions and not explaining why you're upset. I can't figure out why you're upset unless you're stating it clearly. The only thing I was reading was that you were upset because I didn't like dancing. I saw nothing else. There were no other clues to guide me. I can't help but be blunt and honest with what I do and do not like. That's who I am. I make friends and sometimes I don't. It's only when those people clearly explain their issue that we can move on and resolve it.


At the end of the day, we're both social fools, but in different ways. I've probably got more social acumen than you do, whereas it seems you handle the emotional side of socializing better.

I owe an apology here, but I did get quite offended. I've spent no small amount of time practicing salsa myself.



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16 Nov 2013, 8:11 am

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As do I, but you're kind of going about it the wrong way when you're jumping to conclusions and not explaining why you're upset. I can't figure out why you're upset unless you're stating it clearly. The only thing I was reading was that you were upset because I didn't like dancing. I saw nothing else. There were no other clues to guide me. I can't help but be blunt and honest with what I do and do not like. That's who I am. I make friends and sometimes I don't. It's only when those people clearly explain their issue that we can move on and resolve it.


At the end of the day, we're both social fools, but in different ways. I've probably got more social acumen than you do, whereas it seems you handle the emotional side of socializing better.

I owe an apology here, but I did get quite offended. I've spent no small amount of time practicing salsa myself.


An apology to you, too, for my ignorance in not knowing you were offended. I wouldn't know, as I didn't read, if you did mention you practiced a lot. I was never saying it was easy; if it were, I wouldn't have issues dancing, but it still wouldn't be my interest. I don't know how it came across that I thought it was some super easy stuff. No, it looks complicated and like it requires a lot of energy and precision.



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16 Nov 2013, 8:17 am

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An apology to you, too, for my ignorance in not knowing you were offended.


You don't need to apologize, you didn't do anything wrong. I'm the emotionally-unstable, still-recovering misanthropic prick. You're just...an Aspie.



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16 Nov 2013, 8:27 am

Shau wrote:
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Do you need a hug today or something?


I've never been considered very dignified when offended.

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If someone doesn't want to recognise the skill in NASCAR, then that's their choice.


There's a difference between believing there's no skill to NASCAR, and dickishly expressing such a sentiment to someone who's invested hours of their lives into it. You could probably do well to take that social lesson yourself, sonny boy.


So are you saying you've invested hours of your life at NASCAR? No? Where's this NASCAR driver that I haven't offended? Where's the respect or disrespect?

No offence, but if I want a social lesson, I'll take it from someone qualified to give it, thanks.

A good lesson I got once, from someone qualified to give it, was many miles away in a quiet bar. One of the greatest footballers in the history of the game was a patron of that bar. When I found this out, I got very excitied, and rather star struck. One of his friends put me right.

"Look. He kicks a ball about. I'm an electrician. My friend here paints buildings. The guy sat over there, he's a plumber, And the barman serves beer."

He gave me a very stern look, and turned to ignore me (thus completing the lesson). Which I will now do to you. :D



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16 Nov 2013, 8:32 am

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So are you saying you've invested hours of your life at NASCAR? No? Where's this NASCAR driver that I haven't offended? Where's the respect or disrespect?


This really seems like a non-sequiter as the NASCAR thing was an example to illustrate my point.

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A good lesson I got once, from someone qualified to give it, was many miles away in a quiet bar.


I can appreciate that you're trying to be constructive here, but I don't think this really follows at all. You can want to avoid being enamored all day for being highly skilled at something while at the same time not wanting people to blatantly disrespect your skills. Are you implying these two things are mutually exclusive?



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16 Nov 2013, 8:38 am

I know this is completely random, but as soon as I read what you wrote, Octobertiger, it made me think of fried pickles with thousand island dressing. Yum.



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16 Nov 2013, 8:40 am

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I know this is completely random, but as soon as I read what you wrote, Octobertiger, it made me think of fried pickles with thousand island dressing. Yum.


We're certainly rather divergent in our tastes it seems. 8O



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16 Nov 2013, 8:42 am

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So are you saying you've invested hours of your life at NASCAR? No? Where's this NASCAR driver that I haven't offended? Where's the respect or disrespect?


This really seems like a non-sequiter as the NASCAR thing was an example to illustrate my point.

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A good lesson I got once, from someone qualified to give it, was many miles away in a quiet bar.


I can appreciate that you're trying to be constructive here, but I don't think this really follows at all. You can want to avoid being enamored all day for being highly skilled at something while at the same time not wanting people to blatantly disrespect your skills. Are you implying these two things are mutually exclusive?


Do you not think that you're taking things way too seriously, especially given this context? That's the real lesson.

There was no blatant disrespect here to start off with - well, besides the silly 'sonny boy comment', but I laughed at that,.

Another example - golf. Playing good golf is a hell of a skill. First tiime I ever took a tee shot, it was an amazing moment - the ball flew straight and true and right beside the pin. "This is pips!" I thought. Three hours later, I wasn't thinking that...

But what it comes down to is hitting a ball with a stick. There's no disrepect there, that's just putting it in a nutshell. Some people will appreciate that skill, and some won't. Do we have to appreciate the skill in an activity that we would personally choose as worthwhile or not? And does that mean we would express such an attitude to a person who has invested time in that field, in a real life setting? No, on both counts.



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16 Nov 2013, 8:45 am

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I know this is completely random, but as soon as I read what you wrote, Octobertiger, it made me think of fried pickles with thousand island dressing. Yum.


Err...what? Interesting connection :lmao:

As soon as I read your first post today, I thought of a banana coloured thong. Don't know why... :lol:



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16 Nov 2013, 8:46 am

Shau wrote:
Kinme wrote:
I know this is completely random, but as soon as I read what you wrote, Octobertiger, it made me think of fried pickles with thousand island dressing. Yum.


We're certainly rather divergent in our tastes it seems. 8O


I've disliked every kind I've tried excluding these ones I tried at a really delicious BBQ place. They're usually bitter and nasty.



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16 Nov 2013, 8:48 am

octobertiger wrote:
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I know this is completely random, but as soon as I read what you wrote, Octobertiger, it made me think of fried pickles with thousand island dressing. Yum.


Err...what? Interesting connection :lmao:

As soon as I read your first post today, I thought of a banana coloured thong. Don't know why... :lol:


There is almost never a connection with these random thoughts. Although, they do seem to serve for some entertainment when I'm really bored.

Lol! I wonder why? Maybe you could wear someone like a banana thong and find out? :p



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16 Nov 2013, 9:09 am

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Another example - golf.


Once again I'm seeing this failing to hold up to what has been discussed.

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Do we have to appreciate the skill in an activity that we would personally choose as worthwhile or not?


Let me ask you a different question: Does it make you a dickhead to express one's opinion that a skill in an activity is not worthwhile, in a disrespectful manner to a person passionate about said skill? You can bet your powdered baby bottom, sonny boy.

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And does that mean we would express such an attitude to a person who has invested time in that field, in a real life setting?


Online forums are real life containing real words capable of causing real emotional reactions. All the reason for me not to flip out like a ninja first instance I get offended, and all the reason for others to be more tactful in expressing their disinterest.

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I've disliked every kind I've tried excluding these ones I tried at a really delicious BBQ place. They're usually bitter and nasty.


I'm honestly shocked such a thing as fried pickles with salad dressing even exists.

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Lol! I wonder why? Maybe you could wear someone like a banana thong and find out? :p


Maybe he wants YOU to wear a banana thong. It's all Freudian, don't you know.



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16 Nov 2013, 9:19 am

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Another example - golf.


Once again I'm seeing this failing to hold up to what has been discussed.

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Do we have to appreciate the skill in an activity that we would personally choose as worthwhile or not?


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Let me ask you a different question: Does it make you a dickhead to express one's opinion that a skill in an activity is not worthwhile, in a disrespectful manner to a person passionate about said skill? You can bet your powdered baby bottom, sonny boy.


How is the person the activity? Such is an ego link. 'Disrespecting' an activity (which is a matter of interpretation - as in my opinion no disrespect took place here) is not disrespecting the person that carries out the activity. The person who takes it personally is saying more about the way they see themselves - and their insecurity.

I am who I am; I am not necessarily what I do. I don't know if you see it the same.

Does it make the person who is intent on interpreting any dissenting opinion as being disrespectful a dickhead? No, it just makes them misguided, in my opinion.

I'm not sure you're intent on an argument or not. I've made my point.

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Lol! I wonder why? Maybe you could wear someone like a banana thong and find out? :p


Maybe he wants YOU to wear a banana thong. It's all Freudian, don't you know.


What time is it in New Zealand? Perhaps you're drunk and just deliberately being obnoxious. I wish you well.



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