Do most men on WP hate women?

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I think a lot of the Fundamentalist Religious viewpoints that have surfaced lately in the U.S. have influenced a lot of how people relate to one another, even in Canada. It's made everything more difficult. Women are back to being either "Whores" or Saints'. Women do not get to be just average, flawed human beings anymore. I know that I've been tarred with a pretty nasty brush for being Unreligious, even though nothing in my life merits it. Part of my problems with this situation was that I had no idea if the gossip was influencing what was going on here. (I'm 100% sure that some of these guys had been taken in by it.)
I broke my own rule. Never like or attempt date anybody who lives or works in my nasty little communittee, because their view of me will be tainted by B.S., & lies.
I was never sure if all the cloak & dagger, 2nd. party communications, & on the down - low stuff from the man that I like was because he was ashamed to be seen or associated with me in any way. If that was the case, I'm glad that things never went forward. I am older than him. Maybe that was a problem, too? Enough sneaky digging into my life seemed to be done to see if I was "Good Enough"(?). That annoyed the Hell out of me too. I'm @ "Coffee date" stage & I'm already being 'checked up on', followed etc.. There was no relationship. Nothing had happened to suggest that it was 100% sure to be one. Liking is liking & taking it beyond that is another stage entirely. I can't go that quickly!
I guess, "It Was All None of My Business"? )[b]

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I love women. Some of their habits could be irritating. Some could be enchanting. Such is the Human Race.

I don't hate women at all, at least not any more than men. I've had good and bad experiences with women, in relationships, friendships, and in work environments. My boss is a woman, and she treats me fairly and with respect, even though my social peculiarities crop up from time to time. Sure, I've had my heart broken more than a few times, but I can't really blame an entire gender for that, can I? Especially when it's the gender I'm still so attracted to. It would be pointless for me to even try to hate women, because I'll always want to have one in my life romantically, and I find it's pretty impossible to truly hate the things that I desire the most. For instance, if you really love to eat chocolate, try just hating it for awhile. I can almost guarantee you won't be able to stay mad at it forever.

When I hate, I hate everyone, not just women.

Yes..yes they do...*ducks*

Disclaimer: this was a joke it is not to be taken seriously! If you took this seriously regardless of the disclaimer you lack a sense of humor please inhale some nitrous oxide in order to get yourself to laugh.

I think the resentment and indifference by NA men towards women comes from the fact that so many of us NA men are treated like untouchables. We resent the fact that much of the things that attract women to men (mostly confidence and money) is something most of us will never be able to attain.

But most importantly we resent the fact that for every 10 single young man (20's or 30's) there only seems to be 1 single woman. That's a 10:1 ratio. This is unfair, it guarantees that many young men will spend their lives alone, and it is so very frustrating and against nature and as slow as we are, we realize this.

There are multiple reasons for this. One of them is the fact that men of all age (20 to 100) are attracted to and desire the same women (20's to 30's) that young men do, except these older men have money and confidence. On top of that, we must add the many quasi-polygamous relationships out there where a man has a second or third girlfriend in addition to their wife or girlfriend and that the nature of women (not somuch unlike men) is that they would rather get a few hours of an attractive/rich man's time than settle for an average man full-time.

All this sets society up for a very unpleasant time if you're a man and an almost intolerable time if you are an aspie man.

Heh, yeah I have wanted to drive. But I have no eye-hand co-ordination (dyspraxia). I can barely cross the road without getting run over unless I concentrate. I deliberately calculate routes that minimise the number of times I have to cross the road. I nearly killed myself at my school's cycling proficiency practice by driving the bike into the front of a bus... not really sure it is worth the risk to my own life or other peoples' to drive given that I am highly likely to misjudge distances and be unaware of the surroundings. Most people here aren't dyspraxic though and don't have the eye-hand co-ordination issues I have.

It also seems like a lot of money and time when there are other things I am far more interested in. I mean, granted it would be useful though I live in an area with reasonable public transport. But equally I have little motivation to do it when my primary job - software engineering is heavily based in London and I know for a fact that it would take a significant portion of my life for something that doesn't really hold much interest at all. I may do it eventually if I feel motivated enough for some reason. But feeling socially obligated to do so for "wimmins and jobz" is the kind of thing likely to trip my inherent perversity and stubbornly not do it. There are things I my life I've pushed myself to do because I really want to do it. In this case... I have no real motivation, so I don't really see why I'd put myself through the inevitable horrorshow that would be myself learning to drive. If anything I'd rather just inch closer to London where the whole issue becomes academic. Walking and cycling to work is also probably the one thing that has stopped me from putting on excessive weight.

I would however like to fly a plane, as the cost-benefit analysis seems more tilted towards a satisfactory edge. But of course... eh I'm colour blind so this won't happen. Damn my f*****g genes...

I can't speak for other aspies here, but for myself, I don't think I really want a significant relationship anyway. I mean, the sort of relationship most people have would be pretty suffocating for me. I need my solitude. I can't really see myself wanting to be around someone incessantly. I have no interest in children at all, and I typically despise the kind of values and characteristics of 99% of the population on an almost instinctual level. Whilst some level of compansionship is theoretically nice it seems so weighted with a need to accept alien values that the notion of a traditional relationship is kind of abhorrent. I wonder whether, distilled through all the anguish is this fact, that the kind of relationships with people that aspies might typically want are basically impossible in all but the rarest circumstances. I accept there is a choice to recalibrate yourself to 'improve' in a societally dictated way, or accept isolation and you don't really have cause to complain for the sake of your own existential fate... I think personally the cost is too high, and the benefits too distorted often by the motivation for sex, remove that and friendships would suffice. My grandfather was probably an aspie, and for family reasons was pushed into an unhappy marriage. He ruined my dad's childhood and his sisters simply because he didn't care, and left them for a woman who was more than likely taking advantage of him financially. He probably should never have had children, but got socially conned into it in an age where such pressures could be intense. Avoiding this has its benefits, I'd be pretty damn miserable to give up my intellectual pursuits for the sake of other people, as terrible as that sounds.

I've been described as deeply unhappy before - and maybe that is true - but it comes down to observations that go beyond this small topic, to a sort of weary cynicism, and I'm not really sure whether having conformed or having a girlfriend would've made my life happier. I'm sure there would have been benefits, but many sacrifices too - and as times goes by I kind of accept that I am lucky to avoid a certain fate many fall into, but still functional enough to earn enough to partake in my interests. I am damn well going to get a PhD.

I have never noticed what the OP is talking about but then I rarely if ever venture into love and dating. Maybe it's the type of threads people are following.

I've also seen a number of men who appear to be married or in long term relationships on this site. Again, I think this comes down to the types of topics people are drawn towards. I've been with my girlfriend for just over three years now and I am still close friends (albeit by long distance) with my last serious girlfriend before that. I've grown apart from my mother in the last 5 to 10 years or so but I have my reasons. I can't even see how people treat each other according to sex and gender online. It's too abstract. I can't invest that much in words on a screen.

I love women, especially when they are sucking on my cock.

your wit astonishes.

What's a woman?

your wit astonishes. [/quote] Your going to generate major aggro there mister!

What about those younger than 20 and older than 100?

Hey, he's allowed to fantasise.
He'll be unbearable when it actually HAPPENS...

When I started noticing girls and women, about the age of 13-14, my range of oh-my went from my own age up to early 50s. Though even then, when the hormones were a-fizzing and a well turned door handle could probably have got me excited, I seemed far pickier than my friends. I'm now 34, and taken, but that age range of women I find attractive (in the broadest sense, not just 'good looking', as it ever was for me) now runs from about mid twenties to mid sixties.

For every man complaining women won't date him or notice him, I'll wager there are many, many, many women he would not date, or even notice as potentially dateable. The ironic thing is, JacobV flat out declares this and still expects some kind of sympathy.