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Yep that's why it's called an "ugly tax".

Applies to the guy's old ugly vehicle that he drives(probably due to lack of money), and obviously to his ugly face as well.

Yeah i think it can be the tip of the iceberg. i have seen many girls get involved with guys who don't have much money though, and not just young girls. I guess it has a lot to do with the expectations and desires of the woman, not all woman want to settle down and have children, or live a wealthy lifestyle. Not that the wealthy lifestyle wouldn't be nice necessarily, but how a woman feels about a guy who doesn't have much money may be more important. Or she may be earning a decent wage and have something on her mind other than a trophy husband provider guy.
I'm still really not disagreeing about the role money often plays though, just saying.

In simplest, terms, it depends upon the woman. It depends upon the man.

I'm not rolling in dough---but my girlfriends/wives sometimes express a dream about living the life of luxury. This is akin to a woman admiring leading men in movies, and men admiring models. This admiration is distant, and it is not assumed that either the man or the woman desire to consummate this admiration into actually SEEKING that leading man/model.

I would assume that the only "requirement" most woman have is that a man is seeking to improve himself, to evolve, from the point of being unemployed. Many men feel the same way--that they want a woman to at least aspire towards employment. Most people don't want somebody who wants to make a career out of being on benefits. Most people understand that circumstances might dictate one being on benefits, however. They just don't want the person who precludes him/her self from every aspiring to go beyond being on benefits.

Yes i think the willingness to evolve is important. If a guy is not capable of evolving how she wants him to, then it can be a problem, perhaps they are not suited together, perhaps sometimes life is cruel, and he will end up alone, or she may.

I would not like to live a life of luxury because it wouldn't bring me any happiness. I don't need much to be happy, and want to live a simple life.

That's pretty much what ended my last relationship. An overly clingy girl who could not be strong and essentially wanted every second of my time. I'm not a very social person, but when I was with her I literally felt drained everyday just because of how demanding she was there. Sad ending too since I knew she deserved someone who could sustain her demand for so much social interaction or make her see differently so I had to call it off. I never like hurting people so that made it worse

I hope you manage to find someone who makes you happy that is not so demanding.

I have found less demanding relationships before. The problem is that there always seems to be at least one major flaw with whoever I am with (at least in the past anyway). I'm not really a nit picky person just a matter of the flaws being rather dangerous to a healthy relationship such as too demanding or most of the time having a lack of faith and betrayal. Being a rather trusting person didn't really help much with that last one also resulted in a lot of pain. Strangely enough been told that the pain I've endured in my life would have killed a weaker man so not really sure if I'm just lucky or have a knack for attracting pain. (Fun fact, whenever I was a kid and we played any sort of sport I would almost always get hit in the head. It was as if my head was a magnet for spherical projectiles traveling at high speeds. Can't even recall how much blood I lost from that alone)

Sounds fairly normal, teenage girls often do this in the early-stages of a relationship if I remember correctly.

That always seems to be the problem. Finding a woman who is an actual woman and not just a girl. Of course granted my social stature it's amazing I've even had any relationships at all

I'm a woman, I earn a good living, I don't especially care if a guy earns less than I do (my current BF, whom I met on OKC, happens to and is a non-issue) but wouldn't date anyone who wasn't independent and gainfully employed or actively looking for work. And won't apologize for that.

I think it does play a big part. Different locations have different societies. The USA is very very superficial society. I hope one day a collapse happens , people will have a very rude awaking to what's really important. There's the rich and then everyone else who wants to be rich. I don't want to travel, go on expensive vacations, drive expensive cars etc. seems pretty much all us women want those things they wan to be that middle class woman with a expensive house, bmw, 4 kids and rich husband. I don't think most of them will ever get that, very few people do in the USA, middle class is shrinking the gap between poor and rich is getting bigger.




But why? Why not just be happy where you are ? Why have to constantly drive to be better to spend all your life trying to get higher then look back and realize you never lived and instead spent your whole life working to make more money to climb the ladder to the top.

I'd rather just live everyday to love then spend it evolving. For this I'm doomed to be alone forever. Life isn't for livinging anymore it's for continuing to climb a endless ladder.

Biologically but not by societies standards. Reall men are all middle class or richer apparently. Oh and they drive trucks and hunt.

A man can be a street begger, but he is still a man. Screw society and its absurd standards.

You sound sad, lonely and all-around miserable. Evolving to be less so wouldn't be so bad, right?

If you're happy where you are and as you are, there is no need for change.

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You've sure devoted a lot of posts to this one particular user.