"I just didn't see you that way"

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31 Dec 2015, 3:56 am

They make me feel like a disgusting monster and a sick freak, trying his luck.



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31 Dec 2015, 5:56 am

The positive aspect of someone suddenly being mean to you just because they do not return your feelings is it shows their nasty side. A person who is truly kind would not do that.

The "creepzone" is something I feel is over used by some people. The only people who belong in there are those who are genuinely creepy.


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31 Dec 2015, 1:01 pm

it is just that I've heard people say I give them the creeps so I know I am in there.



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31 Dec 2015, 1:22 pm

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But, seriously, like what do you do when women just CAN'T see you romantically?

That's what they tell me, they just can't. They just don't see me that way.


Well for starters you move on from those particular women, as they're not interested and perhaps not even worth your time(of course can be harder to see it like that if you feel crappy about yourself). Then maybe evaluate what sort of women you're asking out if you find they all have a lot of similar traits maybe try and find some who seem a lot different from that. I mean I guarantee we don't all have a collective intelligence giving us the same personalities, preferences, interests or ways of thinking.

Maybe even take a break from actively dating rather than entirely giving up, like take some time for yourself maybe work on any non-relationship related stuff that is bothering you and spend some time doing things you like. If you put too much pressure on finding someone within some specific time limit that will just stress you out....sometimes letting life just happen for a bit can help.


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31 Dec 2015, 11:13 pm

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Why do you see yourself in such a negative fashion? None of us can give a realistic picture of ourselves in an objective fashion, you need to realize that such depressing thoughts only take a toll on your self esteem rather then being a vehicle for positive change.

Because it's how women see me. After years I had to except it



Unless you are a woman, you are in no position to make such a determination.


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31 Dec 2015, 11:35 pm

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Why do you see yourself in such a negative fashion? None of us can give a realistic picture of ourselves in an objective fashion, you need to realize that such depressing thoughts only take a toll on your self esteem rather then being a vehicle for positive change.

Because it's how women see me. After years I had to except it



Unless you are a woman, you are in no position to make such a determination.


Perhaps it's not how women see anything - Perhaps it's the end result, regardless of how women see anything.

For myself, I cannot speak of how women see anything and I've lived with women all of my life. Even our pets were female and they're still a mystery to me but ... we do know what the end result is - that is how we are treated by women (collectively).

No man can blame 1 woman for not wanting to go out with them BUT COLLECTIVELY - if every advance is met with a refusal - after 40 or 50 years of no success, it becomes apparent no one wants you!

Me personally?! I'm an asexual and I don't want or need to get caught up in the whole "No woman wants me" because I don't care. I don't want anyone anyway - BUT - If I did care and I did want a female companion, by this point in my life, I'd be wondering, "What's wrong with me?" because although I don't want anyone, they don't know that.
And women are quite often forthcoming getting what and who they want.

I'm always clean shaven, nicely dressed, well mannered and sociable but I never get any attention. Luckily for me, it suits my situation but they don't know that.

LET'S FACE FACTS - SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT ATTRACTIVE! and don't have the same chances as even the ordinary looking have! - W O R D ! ! !


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31 Dec 2015, 11:39 pm

^^^tell it, man :wtg:



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01 Jan 2016, 12:17 am

Some people like to believe they're nice and impartial to another person's looks but when it comes to the crunch, they don't like what they see in themselves.

Humans do have an amazing capacity for believing what they choose and excluding that which is painful.


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01 Jan 2016, 12:53 am

Deltaville wrote:
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Why do you see yourself in such a negative fashion? None of us can give a realistic picture of ourselves in an objective fashion, you need to realize that such depressing thoughts only take a toll on your self esteem rather then being a vehicle for positive change.

Because it's how women see me. After years I had to except it



Unless you are a woman, you are in no position to make such a determination.

They told me, others post so in their dating ads and profiles, others still say so at work, forums, Facebook, blogs, dating forums, etc. lots of data gathered. Not something easy to come to terms with and part of me still falsely has hopes.



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01 Jan 2016, 1:00 am

What?


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01 Jan 2016, 3:07 am

For sly according to what he says it's based on his own real-life, personal experiences and not just baseless assumptions.

If a woman tells you directly to your face she cannot be attracted to you due to X reasons, and if every woman says it, I think it's fair for him to assume it's what all the women are interpreting as a common issue.

It makes sense.

If every girlfriend i've ever had told me I was aggressive and I've had 10, can I rightfully assume that I'm probably aggressive?

Or was it just 10 women who only assumed I was aggressive but were 'wrong'? And of course the 11th will actually be 'correct' and not think of me as aggressive? I doubt it.



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01 Jan 2016, 3:36 am

Indeed, only women to say otherwise are family, married , friends, or not interested in dating me. Though even the last two categories have some who tell me why I'm so worthless.



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01 Jan 2016, 3:51 am

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Indeed, only women to say otherwise are family, married , friends, or not interested in dating me. Though even the last two categories have some who tell me why I'm so worthless.

IMHO no mere human has the moral right or standing to tell another person that they are worthless, that person is WAY outta line for saying those things to you :x



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01 Jan 2016, 6:38 am

As long as you live a good life, be a good person, don't harm others and love yourself, to hell with what others think about you.

Of course that's easy for me to say. I'm an asexual happy loner who loves the person I am and not interested in getting anyone but if I did want someone, I could see it'd be a very lonely, sad life. Poor buggers!


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01 Jan 2016, 11:12 am

I've got to agree with the above posts. About 50 women have told me the same thing by now, "I just didn't see you that way", which starts to make me think I am just not romantically attractive. And it's not like I'm picking out the same type either. As a personal preference, I do admit, I want someone the same race and cultural characteristics as me. But, I've even been down that road where I thought it was my narrow criteria that was holding me back, and I've even asked women of another race, background, cultural character, etc. out too, and even they declined. I've asked thin women, big women, fit women, young women, old women, it doesn't matter. It's not like I'm "sampling" from the same "pool" all the time and then drawing incorrect conclusions by not "widening my net". If I were just asking fit young blondes out for example, then I would say yeah, there's a chance I'm limiting myself. But, nobody with even a bit of a brain is that naive. So, I'm sorry, but that is not the answer.

And I appreciate that several people post that they are asexual, but while that's all great, I sadly do not have that luxury, and it is impossible to expect of me just to turn my desires "off" like a light-switch. It is extremely difficult and frustrating when you are a hyper-sexual individual like me. The more you try to ignore it, the more it takes over your mind. There are whole days that go by where I can't work or think of anything else other than being with a woman physically and intimately, touching, kissing, cuddling and having sex. It drives me crazy some days.



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01 Jan 2016, 11:21 am

In fact, I haven't even bothered asking any of the beautiful fit young women out, because if the women with low self-esteem are rejecting me, can you imagine the response I would get from a woman who knows she is extremely beautiful and sees all the men looking at her all the time? She'd probably slap me and have me arrested for even coming within 5 feet of her.