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27 Jun 2016, 8:24 am

A past user had similar advice.

He suggested dating is a number's game, but not in the way we think it is.

His advice was to befriend a ridiculously high amount of women in a very short time span, say at least 2 new women a week.

And he didn't mean 'become their friend even if you're interested in a relationship', he just meant become actual friends with a high number of women you are even slightly physically attracted to and just spend time getting to know them.

He suggested to let things happen naturally, and that if you were destined to end up with any of them, you 'naturally' would without trying.

He said this idea works as:

1. You're getting to know and exposing yourself to a high amount of women, even if you're only getting to know them as friends (GENUINE friends, not just faking it to get into their pants)

2. Having a high number of good women friends can be an outlet to meet other women - making lots of female friends can work as they can introduce you to their single female friends.

3. It doesn't result in much actual rejection, at least for dating. You'd be rejected by possible friends, not possible dates.

4. You do get to know them better and can use this time to work-out if you really could have worked out in a relationship with them or if you dodged a bullet.

5. You've got more friends, so that's something.

However, I did see a lot of flaws in OP's ideas:

1. OP sounded like a confident and extraverted aspie, or at least one with enough ability to approach multitudes of women.

2. In reality, just how easy would it be to convince a woman you're getting to know that you really do ONLY want to be friends?

He suggested the whole '5 minute conversation before asking them out/asking for their number/contact details' but to make it clear to them you're really only interested in being friends (which, if you do his method correctly, this is the case).

Are women really that oblivious to assume otherwise?

Would it actually in fact make women think he's one of those 'nice guys' who wants to be 'friends' first to sneak into a relationship (when this is not true) or think he's lying or even find it creepy this stranger they barely know and have only spoken to briefly wants to actually be just friends?

Seems very far-fetched and unbelievable.

3. OP advised to ensure the women never find out about each other and keep things separate - is this really as easy as it sounds?

I'd say if you live in a smaller city or town, one where word spreads fast, running numbers like this will just make you look like a desperate, lonely creep.



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27 Jun 2016, 8:31 am

^ In short, the active socialization way.
It's not feasible much after college life, as adult you don't meet that much people frequently; socialization by itself, even without the intention of dating, isn't easy for everyone.



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27 Jun 2016, 3:57 pm

androbot01 wrote:
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This actually makes a lot of sense for other Aspies, if you must hook up with someone who is hot. Starting out in the friend zone is your only real chance, unless you are hot, wealthy, or have some totally awesome talent. Being in the friend zone at least gives you some access to the person you desire--this gives you the chance to study and learn all about the other person without being a stalker. Ideally, you will become trusted close friends who know each others' quirks, and can escalate the relationship should the opportunity arise.


"...this gives you the chance to study and learn all about the other person ..." Does this phrase make anyone else cringe? I find this attitude creepy and manipulative.


Yes, I agree.



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28 Jun 2016, 5:29 am

There are a few thoughts or statements here which are a little worrying really. There is no such thing as a 'Hot Girl' please do not label people, would you like someone to label you as the Aspi guy or whatever 'bucket' you seem to fall in to?
Having a strategy to date a particular 'type' of person is also fraught with danger, a strategy is false and seeing that person as a thing not a unique human. You cannot strategise your way in to any meaningful relationship just trick people for a while and likely hurt yourself and them.
Being in the friend zone is silly as you cannot control how you interact with someone, if you get along you get along, if you fancy each other romantically also then you should not try to hide this.
Finally dating someone when they are vulnerable after a break up is a little predator like and will simply not work, she will eventually know you had this as a strategy and that is not the behaviour of a friend and especially not a partner.
How about just seeing everyone as a person and saying hi and asking them to do something different. If they cannot see you as a worthwhile friend at the very least then they are not worth your time or thought.



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02 Jul 2016, 12:04 am

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Authentic human relationships are the polar opposite of "technique mentality", and seeking to get into a relationship from a starting point of ulterior motives and manipulation is repugnant.


Sadly, I agree with you on this. However, it is how society works on a regular basis. So as a guy, my choice is go with the flow and do it. or fall behind and never get a girl. lot of girls with babies... not a lot of daddies.... not saying women are bad at choosing mates... I am saying men are using such "repugnant" techniques to get what they want and succeeding at alarming rates. sadly I am too honest and not competitive enough... lol. ironically... most "as*hole" boyfriends are the ones who use such stunts.

what I have seen:
Women fall all over men with muscles
Women fall all over the strong silent type
Women fall over suave type.
Women do NOT fall over their personality.
Women do NOT fall over their interests
Women do NOT fall over their intellect.
but most of all? Women SETTLE. and are never TRULY happy no matter what they say.

is this true for everything? probably not. however! I have been alive 23 years and conscious of it for 11. I have watched... and I have NEVER seen a discrepancy. and to all you girls who on here who claim "I love him for his personality" I am sure you believe that....


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02 Jul 2016, 2:35 am

zeertheseer wrote:
B19 wrote:
Authentic human relationships are the polar opposite of "technique mentality", and seeking to get into a relationship from a starting point of ulterior motives and manipulation is repugnant.


Sadly, I agree with you on this. However, it is how society works on a regular basis. So as a guy, my choice is go with the flow and do it. or fall behind and never get a girl. lot of girls with babies... not a lot of daddies.... not saying women are bad at choosing mates... I am saying men are using such "repugnant" techniques to get what they want and succeeding at alarming rates. sadly I am too honest and not competitive enough... lol. ironically... most "as*hole" boyfriends are the ones who use such stunts.

what I have seen:
Women fall all over men with muscles
Women fall all over the strong silent type
Women fall over suave type.
Women do NOT fall over their personality.
Women do NOT fall over their interests
Women do NOT fall over their intellect.
but most of all? Women SETTLE. and are never TRULY happy no matter what they say.

is this true for everything? probably not. however! I have been alive 23 years and conscious of it for 11. I have watched... and I have NEVER seen a discrepancy. and to all you girls who on here who claim "I love him for his personality" I am sure you believe that....


I love my boyfriend for everything about him...personality, interests, how we get along, his appearance ect. Don't believe it? well no matter to me since it doesn't change the fact. Aside from that I am not 100% happy in life, but I am happy in my relationship. Who are you to decide whether or not others are happy in their relationship or not?


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03 Jul 2016, 4:51 pm

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I believe some of the best relationships, actually, started off as close friendships.

It could be what RetroGamer said, though.

That's the risk one must make.

The best, best relationships, I find, have occurred in people who were childhood sweethearts.


I agree. When my NT girlfriend and I met for the first time, we were in grade school. We were the misfits because we were also in special ed, so we had to rely on each other until we went our separate ways in 2001. Until about 2011, we assumed we forgot about each other until one day, we crossed paths at school unexpected. She was in a relationship and had a well-paying job. We didn't start dating until about last year because I had no idea {even now} how to keep her a secret from my family. She lives with a roommate in another part of Portland that is close to her work.

However, you would think that crossing paths with someone you haven't seen in years would be an amazing experience. When we crossed paths in 2011, I was scared and anytime we saw each other, I couldn't keep calm.


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03 Jul 2016, 5:32 pm

zeertheseer wrote:
B19 wrote:
Authentic human relationships are the polar opposite of "technique mentality", and seeking to get into a relationship from a starting point of ulterior motives and manipulation is repugnant.


Sadly, I agree with you on this. However, it is how society works on a regular basis. So as a guy, my choice is go with the flow and do it. or fall behind and never get a girl. lot of girls with babies... not a lot of daddies.... not saying women are bad at choosing mates... I am saying men are using such "repugnant" techniques to get what they want and succeeding at alarming rates. sadly I am too honest and not competitive enough... lol. ironically... most "as*hole" boyfriends are the ones who use such stunts.

what I have seen:
Women fall all over men with muscles
Women fall all over the strong silent type
Women fall over suave type.
Women do NOT fall over their personality.
Women do NOT fall over their interests
Women do NOT fall over their intellect.
but most of all? Women SETTLE. and are never TRULY happy no matter what they say.

is this true for everything? probably not. however! I have been alive 23 years and conscious of it for 11. I have watched... and I have NEVER seen a discrepancy. and to all you girls who on here who claim "I love him for his personality" I am sure you believe that....


How dare you assume what other people feel or think. This is the biggest generalist ion I've seen.

I fell in love with my boyfriend before seeing him properly. I love his goofy and geeky personality. I love that we can talk for hours about video games and never get bored. I love that we can have intellectual debates and then laugh about it afterwards.

I have been alive for 21 years and have seen it in myself and others. And yet I haver NEVER met someone with an attitude like tha towards young women that denies their choices.

No I don't like the suave type, I like nervous and geeky because they are sincere. Even the young men on here who think women think a certain way don't suggest we don't understand our own thoughts and feelings



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03 Jul 2016, 11:52 pm

I don't know how to double quote. So I will just say this is to allie and sweetleaf. (sorry if I spelled your names wrong.) I have been going through a crisis lately and when I saw this post, it made those feelings well up in side of me. I was probably misreading the girls. But, through my eyes that is all I EVER remember seeing. I realize what I said was rude and inconsiderate and I am sorry. I don't really know what else to say. my crisis is still mid swing and I am just trying to makeup for my mistakes in it so far.


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08 Jul 2016, 3:28 pm

BTDT wrote:
The Journal of Best Practices: A Memoir of Marriage, Asperger Syndrome, and One Man's Quest to Be a Better Husband

This book describes how one Aspie hooked up with a hot girl--start out in the friend zone, become a trusted friend, and get romantically involved in a rebound relationship.

This actually makes a lot of sense for other Aspies, if you must hook up with someone who is hot. Starting out in the friend zone is your only real chance, unless you are hot, wealthy, or have some totally awesome talent. Being in the friend zone at least gives you some access to the person you desire--this gives you the chance to study and learn all about the other person without being a stalker. Ideally, you will become trusted close friends who know each others' quirks, and can escalate the relationship should the opportunity arise.


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