West vs East : Relationship and family values.

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04 Aug 2016, 7:36 am

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I didn't mean that you should pretend to own the rented car, but that as you mostly use public transport you had little use for your old car, it made more sense to rent a nice one when the occasion arose. I don't know, I'm just throwing ideas out there :)
Fair enough lol. I read to much into that hahaha. And you're right about me using public transport a lot, even when I have access to a car. It takes less time to get into the city by train than car. It doesn't make that much sense for me to own car car when I live a 5 minute walk from a train station.
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Ever thought about leasing a car?
Yes I did.

When my ex told me that she had leased cars, I thought about doing it as well. She said she did it because it was cheaper than buying a new car. When I asked about me doing it, she warned that I shouldn't because it costs more than buying a new car. It was then that I started suspecting my ex wasn't very smart.

I'll have to look into the costs myself.


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04 Aug 2016, 7:46 am

I would say lease a car if:

1. You're not mechanically-inclined

2. Realize that leasing is not "profitable," but that you'll be making 3 years of payments, rather than 5,
and that the monthly payment is lower than if you get financed.

3. You don't want to own the car, ultimately. You must not feel attached to the car.

4. MOST IMPORTANTLY--you avoid accidents.

I would, definitely, NOT lease a car if you have a tendency towards getting into minor little accidents, or you parallel park a lot. The leasing company charges lots for little dents when you return the car.



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04 Aug 2016, 8:07 am

I looked into it. Leasing a car costs about five times as much in Australia as it does in America. Most of the cars they had were more than $1,000 per month. I think I'll pass.


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04 Aug 2016, 10:15 am

$1,000 a month? Absurd!

Forget about leasing.



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15 Aug 2016, 2:10 pm

Other typical differences based on observation/ again, they're generalizations and surely not true for every individual (it is impossible to talk about major cultural differences without making generalizations):


-The "sex for fun", such within flings or short terms.

- In the West: it is not uncommon, it is commonly talked about, even if it's less socially accepted than long terms. Sex is not exclusively for long terms and marriage.

- In the East: Typically, the concept is absolutely not accepted by eastern women, in my experience if you tell an Eastern woman about what's friendship with benefits or what's flings for instance, her brain "freezes" for a moment as if she can't compute the concept, for many of them they view the short term as something player men do by playing and tricking women for sake of sex but never as something that women may be willingly and mutually accept it as well. For the most of them, sex must be exclusive for marriage and at least for serious LT.

more on the difference in perception of sex: http://www.meldmagazine.com.au/2013/09/ ... ern-asian/


Insecurity of women:
In the West: This is one of the biggest cultural differences between East and West – girls in the West care more about how much they like you because they don’t need to feel ‘secure’ in the same way Asian girls do. They don't require 'validation' from a man as much.

In the East: By contrast, Eastern and Asian girls feel so much less secure and feel needing much more constant validation to believe the guys are really caring for them.
Typically if you tell a compliment to an Asian girl such as "You're smart", or "You're pretty", the most typical response is usually "No, I am not", "No, not true".



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15 Aug 2016, 2:12 pm

No "Eastern" girl can admit that they have positive virtues.

In that culture, they would be seen as being boastful and vain. They would probably "lose face."

Even athletic "Eastern" girls exude an extreme modesty, I feel.

Even famous Korean lady golfers who have made millions of dollars.



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16 Aug 2016, 3:48 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
No "Eastern" girl can admit that they have positive virtues.

In that culture, they would be seen as being boastful and vain. They would probably "lose face."

Even athletic "Eastern" girls exude an extreme modesty, I feel.

Even famous Korean lady golfers who have made millions of dollars.


It is the most noticeable and common difference, and it's more common in Eastern Asian ladies than other Easterns -

I find this over-humility and shyness not easy to deal with sometimes



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16 Aug 2016, 3:54 pm

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16 Aug 2016, 4:33 pm

Another difference in parenting:

In West: smacking kids is illegal!

In the East: In all of East in fact (MEA/S.Asia/E.Asia), parents occasionally smack/spank/slap kids for being troublemakers as a mean of disciplining, It is common even in Japan.



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16 Aug 2016, 5:09 pm

In lower socioeconomic areas of the United States, corporal punishment is alive and well, despite it being technically illegal.

Families tend to look at for each other, when the police try to do things like make arrests for child assault.

If no marks are left, the cops generally don't make arrests.



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18 Aug 2016, 6:07 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
In fact....there's an opposite stigma here, if a guy is living alone then he's often thought he did something really shameful to get expelled from family.
I've seen that as well. I was trying to chat up this Philipine girl. She was 29, single and still lived with her parents. I told her I live by myself and she was shocked. She said it was very cruel of me to leave my mother alone and said I have to move back in with her.


:lol: Isn't this a funny extreme cultural difference?? Girls in west encourage guys to move out, while girl in east encourage to stay helping mom.

It happened in front of me, my friend was telling to this local girl that he lives only with his dog, and she accused him of being lazy and disconnected from family.



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19 Aug 2016, 1:58 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Another difference in parenting:

In West: smacking kids is illegal!

In the East: In all of East in fact (MEA/S.Asia/E.Asia), parents occasionally smack/spank/slap kids for being troublemakers as a mean of disciplining, It is common even in Japan.
Yeah, in south korea, it's acceptable for parents to use physical discipline against their children but there's also legal obligation to report child abuse and neglect. So parents had better not spank too hard otherwise they could be reported by neighbors and teachers or anyone. And any kind of physical punishment has been banned in all schools since 2011.


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19 Aug 2016, 2:07 am

Drawyer wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Another difference in parenting:

In West: smacking kids is illegal!

In the East: In all of East in fact (MEA/S.Asia/E.Asia), parents occasionally smack/spank/slap kids for being troublemakers as a mean of disciplining, It is common even in Japan.
Yeah, in south korea, it's acceptable for parents to use physical discipline against their children but there's also legal obligation to report child abuse and neglect. So parents had better not spank too hard otherwise they could be reported by neighbors and teachers or anyone. And any kind of physical punishment has been banned in all schools since 2011.


Do you think that's due to western influence? Or the culture evolving on its own?



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19 Aug 2016, 5:00 pm

^ I need to research on how laws are passed in S.Korea. Give me several months.


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19 Aug 2016, 5:33 pm

^ Jeez Drawyer, that sounds like requiring some serious extensive research...
My thread isn't worth your time that much. :mrgreen:



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19 Aug 2016, 7:49 pm

it's funny i didn't see this thread here before (i'm too lazy to actually check each forum). this is an interesting topic

Barchan wrote:
The main dealbreakers for me would be 1) no job, and 2) no driver's license.

i have an international one besides the regular, but i never even used either :lol:. i would never choose to live in a place where driving is necessary

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Maybe the typical spatial awareness differences between men and women influence the importance some women may place on men owning a car. Whats wrong with placing value on a strength men generally have?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... n-men.html

like my father says: "just ask your insurance company". old people pay more for medical insurance, women pay less for car insurance. i don't think biological differences are a major factor at that though. it's probably just that men tend to be overconfident (and so make more mistakes), because "men are supposed to be good drivers"

the op is more complex, so i'm responding to it next


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