Why do Normies always blame men for their lack of dating?

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Wanna hear a secret, figure out a way how to phrase what you know. And share it with girls who you think are worth it. The idea that you are repulsed by the norm and don't want to be a sheep will more than likely turn a few onto you. Why? Because it makes you seem independent and confident and that's attractive to them. Again it's all BS but at some point you just gotta say f**k it and type ^_^ Way to go we almost successfully made that play but it didn't work due to unlucky reasons. (this means f**k you you stupid f**k you f*****g missed your ablitity that was easy to hit and now we lost the fight f**k you)

I love league.

If that's what you call encouraging other men to become as bitter and alienated as you've made yourself. Let us know when and if you ever find someone, your attitude must attract them by the droves.

Redpill isn't about anger, anger is a phase that you get through. You are supposed to use it to motivate you to be better, kinda like how Vegeta did when he went ssj for the first time. Also, again if you call women out on their BS with confidence a lot of them "secretly" will find you attractive because that's how their mind works.

You know, with the way I avoid relationships like the plague, I might as well become a card-carrying MGTOW member. I've seen what men turn into when they get into serious relationships, and I know what women require from their boyfriend; I want no part of it! Plus, after you learn how relationships are just base instincts and hormones, they lose any appeal they once held. Because it makes you realize that you're no different than the squirrels in the streets and the coyotes in the woods. At least when it comes to finding a mate.

Also, while the Red Pill almost universally rejects the notion that men and women can be friends, MGTOW's view on it is divided.

I remember the first time I got laid, it was shortly after I had read some PUA stuff and started putting it into practice, I knew in my mind then that this stuff was true. Since then, I have rarely ever seen it not hold up to reality. After that I started digging into evolutionary psychology & biology.

The people who are against it usually take one of two stances. The first one is that they simply don't like it, therefore it obviously can't be true. The second is that humans are allgedly way too complex to be understood, which I disagree with strongly. Anything that can be observed can be understood. There's a third stance too, which is as dumb as it gets in my opinion, which is: "let's just stop thinking about it". Yeah right, let's never try to understand anything then..

To the people who are so opposed to it, the reason men are actually into this stuff, is because it more or less perfectly over laps with the reality we observe. If you tell me none of it is true, I seriously have zero faith in your ability for making proper analysis.

Ah, but does the red pill stuff work for serious relationships? If you're looking to get laid it does seem to work for some guys, but I'm not hearing stories from men finding happy relationships via this method.

It certainly sounds like the point is to eschew attachment. Women seen to be view viewed as a burden by the red pill community.

I hate the term red pill, but all the red pill tries to do, is to outline the different mating strategies of men and women. Or maybe just the difference in how men and women think and feel, in general. Alot of these concepts come from evolutionary psychology and biology, which is why it works, it's not just angry men making stuff up.

Whether it works for relationships or not, I can't say, because it's not a guidebook per say. It's simply an explanation of how gender dynamics work, it's up to the individual what to do with it. That's my take on it anyways.
I think alot of men lose interest in relationships after they understand the mating game, so that might be why you don't hear alot of those stories.

I still think it is invaluable knowledge for both men and women. I think alot of the anger, comes from not understanding. Men project their thought processes on to women, and women do the same to men, and that's where we seem to run into problems. Men and women almost couldn't be more different from eachother.

The truth to this is pretty much no, however the flip to the coin of this is going any other method doesn't have a guarantee of non failure either. So the question remains do you go a method that will assuredly get you temporary satisfaction maybe a few years or do you go a method that is harder/has a chance of failure unlike the first one you know will fail regardless.

I think that's what people actually object to about it. The hook up culture type of thing. If you're all wanting to be a piece of meat, then fine, but that's not going to sit well with someone looking for a long term relationship and its going to be frustrating if they keep meeting the short term gratification types.

I would argue that many "serious relationships" in past years and generations have never been held together entirely on good faith. Of course, you have different cultures with vastly different rules and values, but for the most part, both religious prosecution and state prosecution have stood in as deterrence. As an atheist, I would not advocate the church once again taking control of it, but alternatively I would like to see the state step out of it so it's little more than a ceremony between two people. Nothing like alimony or prenups or etc., just entirely between two consenting adults to deal with themselves. The only need would arise where children are involved, and that could use some fixing where reproductive rights are concerned; perhaps a father would have to sign his own certificate, just one idea to combat things like mothers just putting anyone's name down and the victim only finding out years later and being placed in a large amount of debt, before doing any sort of DNA test. Things like this would go a long way to fixing relations and meeting actual equality.

As things are now, the analogy to any in the animal kingdom is apt. Only I like to think of tigers; apparently more of a tournament species than pair bonding, from the little research I've done lately. But I'm sure there are plenty of others. I don't doubt many MGTOW would prefer to find anything close to reciprocation, however the cards are stacked against men simply because of the notion that either the men are the protectors, or the men are the oppressors, depending on which wing of politics you fall on.

Lastly, as far as friends go, it's true I've seen many shut out women altogether. And it's sometimes fair, given their history, and likely would not be able to have healthy relationships going forward. Many seem to be far better off, too. I'm not exactly active myself, but ever since I started putting myself before others, women don't see me as a doormat, and sometimes we can work out some kind of deal. Some even have low enough self esteem to give the milk for free. It's not the fairytale I'd hoped for as a kid, but it'll do, having more realistic expectations now.

Well the sad truth to this is women right now have all the power when it comes to relationships, and slowly but surely it's going to get worse until things get evened out. It's like an exploit in a game that you can use if it comes down to it, it may not be right but it's there.

AKA Women win in every divorce just about regardless of circumstances because kids must be with mommy.

Sure, men have zero power when it comes to dating.

And women usually get custody of the kids because men rarely file for custody. Women are still expected to be the primary caretakers of children by both women AND men.

No, I reject it because there's zero evidence behind it, regardless of how comforting some men might find it. I prefer to base my opinions of biology on actual biology, not made-up narratives.

Just because it conforms to your emotional biases doesn't make it reality.

Ahh I realise now why I don't like MGTOW philosophy. It seems to focus on what can go wrong rather than what can go right.

Is there a dictionary somewhere that explains all of these abbreviations and pills? I seriously have no idea what is going here....

Because as a woman, the most you're risking is hurt feelings rather than your entire livelihood and reputation. You can't tell me you'd eat from a plate that has approximately 50% deadly poisonous food on it, completely identical to what is ok to eat.