My Partner has aspergers- the toll on my emotional health

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Anngables
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26 Sep 2017, 5:36 pm

It's a complicated thing sly . . .. . The truth is we want both . . . .think of it like a game of ping pong .. . Back and forward communication . . . Sometimes quick bursts back and forth quickly . .. . Other time a break between games. . . . .
But your right it's confusing and all people are different in what they want

And AspieSingleDad . . .we can get there in the end . . . We can all learn from each other with persistence and a willingness to listen. Without this forum I would probably have given up on my friendship a long time ago so I thank everyone who has replied to me for that.



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27 Sep 2017, 12:49 am

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All my other friends text me more often probably . .. . . Certainly I know better how they feel about me . .. . This works for us.

My nt friends don't text me I always have to initiate or they go months or years without taking to me. I'm clingy for wanting regular human contact


I find this too. Apart from a couple of close friends, but usually I initiate.



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27 Sep 2017, 12:58 am

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All my other friends text me more often probably . .. . . Certainly I know better how they feel about me . .. . This works for us.
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The thing that struck me in your early posts was the deal where he has to text you goodnight every day.

I think it was that aspect that made most of us balk at the beginning. Most NTs don't do that. It did sound controlling. It's not that we think all NTs are controlling. You just kind of got off to a bad start with us with that and we hadn't got all the context yet.

At least in kind of understanding where you're coming from now.

Do you make your other friends do that?

Are they female? Men don't seem to like texting.



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27 Sep 2017, 1:14 am

hurtloam wrote:
sly279 wrote:
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All my other friends text me more often probably . .. . . Certainly I know better how they feel about me . .. . This works for us.

My nt friends don't text me I always have to initiate or they go months or years without taking to me. I'm clingy for wanting regular human contact


I find this too. Apart from a couple of close friends, but usually I initiate.


If I don't contact them I'll likely never hear from them again. I have an old airsoft buddy who we hadn't talked since July. I don't think I have many friends if any



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27 Sep 2017, 1:46 am

The primary benefit of texting for me is reminding female friends I'm alive or in town.

Otherwise it usually goes nowhere. I'm drastically more comfortable talking in person.

I've grown to somewhat ironically expect very delayed responses to electronic communication. It's really more of an issue for me than being social at all these days.


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27 Sep 2017, 2:41 am

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27 Sep 2017, 9:50 am

Suddenly I am craving for asparagus soup.



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27 Sep 2017, 10:28 am

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27 Sep 2017, 1:14 pm

Hurtloam . .. . . .. I never said he HAD to text me every night . .. . . He used to do it every night without fail for approx 18 months . . .. it was his choice and something he started and continued. . . .. the issue was when he stopped doing it . .. .. . It made me think there was a problem or a reason why he suddenly stopped doing it after all that time. I then took it to mean that he had changed the way he felt about me and our friendship . . .. . .

He doesn't text me every night anymore and that is fine . . .. because I have spoken to him and I know he cares. . . .. that is the difficult bit for us NTs knowing whether you care or not. The usual signs and signals are not used . . .. .

And to be honest the wishing good night thing became a bit tiresome for me too having to reply every night. The issue for me was understanding why he had stopped and whether it meant he didn't care . . .. .



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27 Sep 2017, 2:44 pm

What are the usual signs?



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27 Sep 2017, 3:46 pm

That's the difficult thing Sly and where the confusion occurs. As an NT we take them for granted whereas neurodiverse folk don't always know they even exist. . .. . .they are subtle and I didn't really even know they existed until suddenly they weren't there in my friendship with this friend . .. . . .then suddenly I was floundering wondering what he thought of me. It's a very subtle form of communication



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27 Sep 2017, 4:01 pm

As an Asperger, I'm totally mystified by social typicals who complain about their Asperger "partners". How did you get so far into a relationship with a person who annoys you, or even drives you to despair? Did you just ignore their "awfulness" or did you think you could change them? That's irrational! If you want someone who constantly "emotes" all over your every need, go find someone who does that! Why "pick on" an Asperger?

We often have very deep emotions that CANNOT be expressed by superficial neurotypical social displays - and yes, there are many "neurotypical martyr" chat and forum sites on the internet where neurotypicals bash their Aspie "friends, spouses, children" etc. It's quite offensive; can you imagine people doing that to African Americans? We are people; if you don't have the time or interest in getting to know us as individuals, then that's unfortunate.



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27 Sep 2017, 4:19 pm

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As an Asperger, I'm totally mystified by social typicals who complain about their Asperger "partners". How did you get so far into a relationship with a person who annoys you, or even drives you to despair? Did you just ignore their "awfulness" or did you think you could change them? That's irrational! If you want someone who constantly "emotes" all over your every need, go find someone who does that! Why "pick on" an Asperger?

We often have very deep emotions that CANNOT be expressed by superficial neurotypical social displays - and yes, there are many "neurotypical martyr" chat and forum sites on the internet where neurotypicals bash their Aspie "friends, spouses, children" etc. It's quite offensive; can you imagine people doing that to African Americans? We are people; if you don't have the time or interest in getting to know us as individuals, then that's unfortunate.



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27 Sep 2017, 4:28 pm

Erm . . .. . . I adore my aspie friend I just want to understand him and sometimes he confuses me

And I didn't pick an "aspie" I picked a friend who happens to be aspie



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27 Sep 2017, 5:10 pm

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As an Asperger, I'm totally mystified by social typicals who complain about their Asperger "partners". How did you get so far into a relationship with a person who annoys you, or even drives you to despair? Did you just ignore their "awfulness" or did you think you could change them? That's irrational! If you want someone who constantly "emotes" all over your every need, go find someone who does that! Why "pick on" an Asperger?

We often have very deep emotions that CANNOT be expressed by superficial neurotypical social displays - and yes, there are many "neurotypical martyr" chat and forum sites on the internet where neurotypicals bash their Aspie "friends, spouses, children" etc. It's quite offensive; can you imagine people doing that to African Americans? We are people; if you don't have the time or interest in getting to know us as individuals, then that's unfortunate.


I don't see the OP as complaining but rather someone who is seeking help. Surely that's a good thing to better relationships between Nt's and ND's?
It can be difficult for an NT to outwardly ask an Aspie questions outright if they don't know them that well for fear of offending them or rejection.
I see many Aspies here saying NT's don't understand them but when they seek help here, they are the ones who get bashed.
Exchanging information, thoughts etc is the way forward for all to understand each other but if I don't see how that can change unless Aspies are willing to help NT's understand a bit more.
No one is expecting an Aspie to change but rather looking for a little help in understanding is all...



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27 Sep 2017, 6:08 pm

Anngables wrote:
It's a complicated thing sly . . .. . The truth is we want both . . . .think of it like a game of ping pong .. . Back and forward communication . . . Sometimes quick bursts back and forth quickly . .. . Other time a break between games. . . . .
But your right it's confusing and all people are different in what they want

What? You can't have distance and closeness at the same time.0.o

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That's the difficult thing Sly and where the confusion occurs. As an NT we take them for granted whereas neurodiverse folk don't always know they even exist. . .. . .they are subtle and I didn't really even know they existed until suddenly they weren't there in my friendship with this friend . .. . . .then suddenly I was floundering wondering what he thought of me. It's a very subtle form of communication



What are they that yiu take for granted with nts that aspie don't know exist?

Yiu seem to it know or are avoiding saying what it is that is missing.