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09 Nov 2017, 5:27 pm

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Do you people even realise that men and women aren’t the same, on average, men and women are drawn to different traits about people. If genders were meant to be exactly the same, why don’t people split via mitosis?

Girls tend to like (on average)
Ambition
Social skills
Confidence
Intelligence
looks

Guys tend to like (on average)
Looks
Looks
House keeping or child raising ability
Sex drive
Looks
Mannerisms - being “feminine”.

You don’t see any women here moaning about what guys tend to go for when they don’t have it.

Maybe you should give it a rest about moaning about what women tend to go for if you don’t have it.

Some people are more fortunate than others. But on average, most people of each gender end up finding someone eventually. The population is increasing, it wouldn’t be if noone ever wanted anyone else execpt “hot guys” - a minority.


I completely agree, I try to tell guys this all the time here, but then they want to argue with me about it.

The difference though, when you compare your two lists of desirable traits: For a woman to be attractive is dead simple, eat healthy and stay in shape, that's it. There is some unfairness, in that there's a genetic component to looks, and I realise that. But the same goes for men, in both looks AND intelligence. On top of that, confidence is to large extent shaped by your genetics aswell. And on top of that you have to push yourself to the limit working extremely hard.

If all I had to do was look good, dating would be extremely easy.

I think one of the reasons we don't see alot of women moaning, is because they artificially raise their egos through delusion and denial, as a way to cope. I see this alot, and I honestly find it alot more pathetic than moaning a bit on a internet forum.



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09 Nov 2017, 5:32 pm

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Have you ever heard someone call a woman a loser?


I've seen you on a thread specifically saying, "fat women are losers".


That was in response to unemployed men being called losers.

Besides that, I don't believe I've ever called a woman, nor heard others call a woman a loser.


If you're a nerd and do well in school you will get called that a lot growing up, whether you are male or female. I got called a loser a lot as a kid because I was the top student in my class and the stupid bullying type kids resented me for it.

I'll bet a lot of the other women on this forum experienced something very similar, as well as many of the guys. Girls experience bullying too, from other girls and from boys; both girls and boys called me names and bullied me. It's not a uniquely male experience or a double standard.

If you actually listened to women when we talk you would know that already, but you seem to stop taking in information altogether when that information is coming from a female human. Maybe you should ask yourself why that is and if that's a good way to go through life if you want to have some women be a part of your life in any capacity.



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09 Nov 2017, 5:38 pm

Depending on age of OP, I strongly recommend seeking older women. A surprising number of them are willing to go with younger men. If they compare you to their child its probably a no go but outside of that, all they can do is say no and you don't have to compete with as many other men. As most men will all be coming on to younger women and so they have a monopoly on who they can pick. Single older women might go unnoticed and appreciate the attention of a younger male.

PS - Also older women will blow your mind lol

The sad reality of this post, is I am actually not trolling :-D



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09 Nov 2017, 5:54 pm

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
MarissaKay wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
Have you ever heard someone call a woman a loser?


I've seen you on a thread specifically saying, "fat women are losers".


That was in response to unemployed men being called losers.

Besides that, I don't believe I've ever called a woman, nor heard others call a woman a loser.


If you're a nerd and do well in school you will get called that a lot growing up, whether you are male or female. I got called a loser a lot as a kid because I was the top student in my class and the stupid bullying type kids resented me for it.

I'll bet a lot of the other women on this forum experienced something very similar, as well as many of the guys. Girls experience bullying too, from other girls and from boys; both girls and boys called me names and bullied me. It's not a uniquely male experience or a double standard.

If you actually listened to women when we talk you would know that already, but you seem to stop taking in information altogether when that information is coming from a female human. Maybe you should ask yourself why that is and if that's a good way to go through life if you want to have some women be a part of your life in any capacity.


Contrary to popular belief, I've actually been around women alot, had alot of female friends and several girlfriends.

The reason I don't listen to women, is because from the interactions I've had, women don't very often tell the truth. They cling to what seems nice, instead of what seems true. Most men won't go out of their way, to make sure I think highly of them, atleast not to the same extent. It's a character trait I am absolutely allergic too.



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09 Nov 2017, 6:39 pm

Closet Genious wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Do you people even realise that men and women aren’t the same, on average, men and women are drawn to different traits about people. If genders were meant to be exactly the same, why don’t people split via mitosis?

Girls tend to like (on average)
Ambition
Social skills
Confidence
Intelligence
looks

Guys tend to like (on average)
Looks
Looks
House keeping or child raising ability
Sex drive
Looks
Mannerisms - being “feminine”.

You don’t see any women here moaning about what guys tend to go for when they don’t have it.

Maybe you should give it a rest about moaning about what women tend to go for if you don’t have it.

Some people are more fortunate than others. But on average, most people of each gender end up finding someone eventually. The population is increasing, it wouldn’t be if noone ever wanted anyone else execpt “hot guys” - a minority.


I completely agree, I try to tell guys this all the time here, but then they want to argue with me about it.

The difference though, when you compare your two lists of desirable traits: For a woman to be attractive is dead simple, eat healthy and stay in shape, that's it. There is some unfairness, in that there's a genetic component to looks, and I realise that. But the same goes for men, in both looks AND intelligence. On top of that, confidence is to large extent shaped by your genetics aswell. And on top of that you have to push yourself to the limit working extremely hard.

If all I had to do was look good, dating would be extremely easy.

I think one of the reasons we don't see alot of women moaning, is because they artificially raise their egos through delusion and denial, as a way to cope. I see this alot, and I honestly find it alot more pathetic than moaning a bit on a internet forum.


Eating healthy and staying in shape isn’t as easy for some people as it may be for you. It can be changed with a lot of hard work.

Vice versa also applies, improving unattractive traits in males can be improved with a lot of hard work, with the exception of intelligence, but unintelligent people seem to easily get partners so that even can’t be that important.

How do I know you can improve bad social skills and confidence? Because I’ve lived it. I may be a “mortal enemy” for my gender, but you’re forgetting. I’m also an aspie.

A lot of women date fat and unattractive men, so the looks part for women isn’t always even that important. I’ll make some graphs when I go home as I have no life.



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09 Nov 2017, 6:52 pm

The amount of women who refuse to date a non athletic thin man says looks matter just as much to women.



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09 Nov 2017, 7:05 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Do you people even realise that men and women aren’t the same, on average, men and women are drawn to different traits about people. If genders were meant to be exactly the same, why don’t people split via mitosis?

Girls tend to like (on average)
Ambition
Social skills
Confidence
Intelligence
looks

Guys tend to like (on average)
Looks
Looks
House keeping or child raising ability
Sex drive
Looks
Mannerisms - being “feminine”.

You don’t see any women here moaning about what guys tend to go for when they don’t have it.

Maybe you should give it a rest about moaning about what women tend to go for if you don’t have it.

Some people are more fortunate than others. But on average, most people of each gender end up finding someone eventually. The population is increasing, it wouldn’t be if noone ever wanted anyone else execpt “hot guys” - a minority.


I completely agree, I try to tell guys this all the time here, but then they want to argue with me about it.

The difference though, when you compare your two lists of desirable traits: For a woman to be attractive is dead simple, eat healthy and stay in shape, that's it. There is some unfairness, in that there's a genetic component to looks, and I realise that. But the same goes for men, in both looks AND intelligence. On top of that, confidence is to large extent shaped by your genetics aswell. And on top of that you have to push yourself to the limit working extremely hard.

If all I had to do was look good, dating would be extremely easy.

I think one of the reasons we don't see alot of women moaning, is because they artificially raise their egos through delusion and denial, as a way to cope. I see this alot, and I honestly find it alot more pathetic than moaning a bit on a internet forum.


Eating healthy and staying in shape isn’t as easy for some people as it may be for you. It can be changed with a lot of hard work.

Vice versa also applies, improving unattractive traits in males can be improved with a lot of hard work, with the exception of intelligence, but unintelligent people seem to easily get partners so that even can’t be that important.

How do I know you can improve bad social skills and confidence? Because I’ve lived it. I may be a “mortal enemy” for my gender, but you’re forgetting. I’m also an aspie.

A lot of women date fat and unattractive men, so the looks part for women isn’t always even that important. I’ll make some graphs when I go home as I have no life.


I just don't think you're being honest, if you're gonna compare something as dead simple as reducing calorie intake, to something that requires years and years of studying hard, thousands and thousands of hours, followed up by working 60 hour weeks. Pre requisites for a high status career are aso high IQ and a stable enviroment.

I'm not saying there are no expectations for women, but I still think it's a silly comparison.

I am lucky in that I wasn't born either ugly or stupid. I am unlucky in that I grew up poor, and with lots of abuse, and this has delayed the process of figuring myself out.

My studies are starting august next year, and that means I won't earn any money for the next 7 years of my life. By that time I'll be 31. It sucks being late to the party, but what can I do...

There's no woman in the world who can't get fit and healthy within 7 years...



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09 Nov 2017, 7:12 pm

Clearly you haven’t battled with binge eating, emotional eating, anorexia or bulimia.

Having dealt with those and being an aspie, improving social skills was the easiest of the two. But what would I know?

I’m always going to be wrong if I challenge your ideas. At least I can admit when I made an incorrect assumption. :roll:



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09 Nov 2017, 7:14 pm

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There's no woman in the world who can't get fit and healthy within 7 years...


There are degenerative neurological and autoimmune disorders that can make that impossible.

https://www.ntsad.org/index.php/researc ... ystrophies

Vigorous exercise can accelerate the rate at which the body attacks itself. The typical advice is to only do range of motion exercises.



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09 Nov 2017, 7:25 pm

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Clearly you haven’t battled with binge eating, emotional eating, anorexia or bulimia.

Having dealt with those and being an aspie, improving social skills was the easiest of the two. But what would I know?

I’m always going to be wrong if I challenge your ideas. At least I can admit when I made an incorrect assumption. :roll:


Clearly you are making assumptions.

Emotional problems also apply to working and studying. Bottomline is, attaining a high status job, is a much more complex and time consuming process.



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09 Nov 2017, 7:30 pm

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There's no woman in the world who can't get fit and healthy within 7 years...


There are degenerative neurological and autoimmune disorders that can make that impossible.

https://www.ntsad.org/index.php/researc ... ystrophies

Vigorous exercise can accelerate the rate at which the body attacks itself. The typical advice is to only do range of motion exercises.


Which is extremely rare, those people are the exception.



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09 Nov 2017, 8:46 pm

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The amount of women who refuse to date a non athletic thin man says looks matter just as much to women.

If only. I always see hot girls with weak underweight guys for some reason.


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09 Nov 2017, 8:49 pm

Closet Genious wrote:
BTDT wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
There's no woman in the world who can't get fit and healthy within 7 years...


There are degenerative neurological and autoimmune disorders that can make that impossible.

https://www.ntsad.org/index.php/researc ... ystrophies

Vigorous exercise can accelerate the rate at which the body attacks itself. The typical advice is to only do range of motion exercises.


Which is extremely rare, those people are the exception.

Shall we apply Occam's Razer to the cause of people's adiposity?


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09 Nov 2017, 8:54 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Do you people even realise that men and women aren’t the same, on average, men and women are drawn to different traits about people. If genders were meant to be exactly the same, why don’t people split via mitosis?

Girls tend to like (on average)
Ambition
Social skills
Confidence
Intelligence
looks

Guys tend to like (on average)
Looks
Looks
House keeping or child raising ability
Sex drive
Looks
Mannerisms - being “feminine”.

You don’t see any women here moaning about what guys tend to go for when they don’t have it.

Maybe you should give it a rest about moaning about what women tend to go for if you don’t have it.

Some people are more fortunate than others. But on average, most people of each gender end up finding someone eventually. The population is increasing, it wouldn’t be if noone ever wanted anyone else execpt “hot guys” - a minority.


I completely agree, I try to tell guys this all the time here, but then they want to argue with me about it.

The difference though, when you compare your two lists of desirable traits: For a woman to be attractive is dead simple, eat healthy and stay in shape, that's it. There is some unfairness, in that there's a genetic component to looks, and I realise that. But the same goes for men, in both looks AND intelligence. On top of that, confidence is to large extent shaped by your genetics aswell. And on top of that you have to push yourself to the limit working extremely hard.

If all I had to do was look good, dating would be extremely easy.

I think one of the reasons we don't see alot of women moaning, is because they artificially raise their egos through delusion and denial, as a way to cope. I see this alot, and I honestly find it alot more pathetic than moaning a bit on a internet forum.


Eating healthy and staying in shape isn’t as easy for some people as it may be for you. It can be changed with a lot of hard work.

Vice versa also applies, improving unattractive traits in males can be improved with a lot of hard work, with the exception of intelligence, but unintelligent people seem to easily get partners so that even can’t be that important.

Of course it's not easy. That's what makes it a good challenge.

If being thin was easy it wouldn't be a satisfying achievement.
If having a good career was easy it wouldn't be a satisfying achievement.


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09 Nov 2017, 8:59 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
BTDT wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
There's no woman in the world who can't get fit and healthy within 7 years...


There are degenerative neurological and autoimmune disorders that can make that impossible.

https://www.ntsad.org/index.php/researc ... ystrophies

Vigorous exercise can accelerate the rate at which the body attacks itself. The typical advice is to only do range of motion exercises.


Which is extremely rare, those people are the exception.

Shall we apply Occam's Razer to the cause of people's adiposity?

That’s one way to trim the fat, I guess.



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09 Nov 2017, 9:51 pm

Closet Genious wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
MarissaKay wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
Have you ever heard someone call a woman a loser?


I've seen you on a thread specifically saying, "fat women are losers".


That was in response to unemployed men being called losers.

Besides that, I don't believe I've ever called a woman, nor heard others call a woman a loser.


If you're a nerd and do well in school you will get called that a lot growing up, whether you are male or female. I got called a loser a lot as a kid because I was the top student in my class and the stupid bullying type kids resented me for it.

I'll bet a lot of the other women on this forum experienced something very similar, as well as many of the guys. Girls experience bullying too, from other girls and from boys; both girls and boys called me names and bullied me. It's not a uniquely male experience or a double standard.

If you actually listened to women when we talk you would know that already, but you seem to stop taking in information altogether when that information is coming from a female human. Maybe you should ask yourself why that is and if that's a good way to go through life if you want to have some women be a part of your life in any capacity.


Contrary to popular belief, I've actually been around women alot, had alot of female friends and several girlfriends.

The reason I don't listen to women, is because from the interactions I've had, women don't very often tell the truth. They cling to what seems nice, instead of what seems true. Most men won't go out of their way, to make sure I think highly of them, atleast not to the same extent. It's a character trait I am absolutely allergic too.


This is called psychological projection: you claim women are lying because you are lying to them. You have admitted on here before that you don't tell the women in your life what you really think of women (you save those wonderful opinions about women for us here on WP, and thanks so much for that!) because you know they wouldn't want to be around you anymore if you were honest about how you feel. That means they don't really know you and you lie to them regularly about who you are. I am not like you, I can't perform dishonesty like that, it's one of the reasons why I don't do well socially.