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24 Dec 2017, 2:20 am

I lost my virginity when I was 21. I just hope that wasn't my first and only experience with love.



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24 Dec 2017, 3:17 am

Marknis wrote:
I lost my virginity when I was 21. I just hope that wasn't my first and only experience with love.


That ain't bad at all.



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24 Dec 2017, 4:42 am

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You weren’t like them. You were cheeky charming and whiny.

To be honest it seems like the main reason you had no luck was because you were short, where as with the OP its an attitude problem, and sly needs counselling. Also unlike ke them you were willing to change yourself/ try to improve.

Until Markins and sly learn to view things impartiality and accept what they need to work on, they’re not going to be boo 2.0


I honestly don't know Boo very well. We've never talked directly for starters. I really don't want to be a clone of anyone.

My struggles have more to do with feeling like my time has already run out and any hope I get is just false hope. I don't know if things can get better or if my fate is already decided.


That’s basically your problem. You really need to sort yourself out. You don’t have to feel like that, you choose to. Help is available in the form of therapy.



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24 Dec 2017, 4:43 am

Marknis wrote:
I lost my virginity when I was 21. I just hope that wasn't my first and only experience with love.


I was 24. I’m a female. I really don’t know what some of you complain about. A lot of weird delusions about how everyone does it at 15.



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24 Dec 2017, 9:20 am

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AngelRho really needs to get a clue and stop following my posts. I've told him that his posts do not help me but he can't take a hint. He actually agrees with the homophobic and pro-Christian aspects of the Bible Belt so what does that tell you? He's just upset I am not mindlessly calling myself a Christian like a robot.

The both of you will certainly have had completely different experiences with people, not only because you didn't meet the exact same people, but also because the both of you are so different the exact same people would react very differently to you and him.
I think AngelRho may have helped some people on this forum, but those were mostly Christian people with traditional values. A lot of his opinions or advice just don't apply to people with different views.
A guy who followed most of his advice would be very unappealing to me, but a guy who is willing to follow most of his advice would likely be looking for a traditional Christian woman to whom it might be appealing.

While it would not magically have solved all problems, I do think you might have been better off if you had grown up in a different place. Of course bullies exist everywhere, but a lot of things you say about the culture you live in, seem quite alien to me and are probably less common where I life. And some of your hobbies (if I remember correctly; anime?) are likely more common here and are not looked down upon by many young people. And it's certainly not just specifically the area where I life, but a lot of places in America and Europe may have treated you better if you had been born there instead.
But of course what would have been if doesn't really change a thing and you can only try to make things work with your circumstances.



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24 Dec 2017, 9:34 am

I like to read AngelRho's posts precisely because they reflect a much different culture than what I grew up in and now live in. But, I can handle different viewpoints. :wink:



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24 Dec 2017, 12:31 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
Marknis wrote:
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You weren’t like them. You were cheeky charming and whiny.

To be honest it seems like the main reason you had no luck was because you were short, where as with the OP its an attitude problem, and sly needs counselling. Also unlike ke them you were willing to change yourself/ try to improve.

Until Markins and sly learn to view things impartiality and accept what they need to work on, they’re not going to be boo 2.0


I honestly don't know Boo very well. We've never talked directly for starters. I really don't want to be a clone of anyone.

My struggles have more to do with feeling like my time has already run out and any hope I get is just false hope. I don't know if things can get better or if my fate is already decided.


That’s basically your problem. You really need to sort yourself out. You don’t have to feel like that, you choose to. Help is available in the form of therapy.


I want to believe it is possible. I've just had so many discouraging social experiences for the last eleven years of my life. I really hoped this year would turn out differently than the previous one but it's ending in failure just like the one before. :(

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Marknis wrote:
I lost my virginity when I was 21. I just hope that wasn't my first and only experience with love.


I was 24. I’m a female. I really don’t know what some of you complain about. A lot of weird delusions about how everyone does it at 15.


A lot of the guys who got girls as well as had the most sex were the jerks and jocks. I wanted to prove them wrong as well as my older brother.



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24 Dec 2017, 12:38 pm

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AngelRho really needs to get a clue and stop following my posts. I've told him that his posts do not help me but he can't take a hint. He actually agrees with the homophobic and pro-Christian aspects of the Bible Belt so what does that tell you? He's just upset I am not mindlessly calling myself a Christian like a robot.

The both of you will certainly have had completely different experiences with people, not only because you didn't meet the exact same people, but also because the both of you are so different the exact same people would react very differently to you and him.
I think AngelRho may have helped some people on this forum, but those were mostly Christian people with traditional values. A lot of his opinions or advice just don't apply to people with different views.
A guy who followed most of his advice would be very unappealing to me, but a guy who is willing to follow most of his advice would likely be looking for a traditional Christian woman to whom it might be appealing.

While it would not magically have solved all problems, I do think you might have been better off if you had grown up in a different place. Of course bullies exist everywhere, but a lot of things you say about the culture you live in, seem quite alien to me and are probably less common where I life. And some of your hobbies (if I remember correctly; anime?) are likely more common here and are not looked down upon by many young people. And it's certainly not just specifically the area where I life, but a lot of places in America and Europe may have treated you better if you had been born there instead.
But of course what would have been if doesn't really change a thing and you can only try to make things work with your circumstances.


Not just anime but reading in general, video games that aren't Call of Duty, and music that isn't pop country or rap is frowned upon where I live.



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24 Dec 2017, 12:49 pm

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Maybe it's because you sided with Chichikov and jrjones against me as well as constantly tell me how wrong I am despite my life experiences? Ever thought about all of that?
AngelRho did it to me too. I once started a thread, where I shared my conflicted feelings about a friend, hoping to get insight. He started getting preachy with me, and acting like me knows me better than I know myself. (Which is something therapists did to me, so it's a trigger.) First, I told him politely that he was wrong; then, I told him multiple times to stop commenting. But he kept pushing at me and antagonizing me. Until I snapped and call him names, which got me in trouble: a mod issued me a warning. (Which is something bullies did to me, although teachers later wised up to it.) Fortunately, another mod was nice enough to delete that god-awful thread.

After that incident with AngelRho, I pretty much migrated away from WP to another forum, an NT-oriented one. At least for issues not directly related to AS.



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24 Dec 2017, 5:47 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
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I lost my virginity when I was 21. I just hope that wasn't my first and only experience with love.


I was 24. I’m a female. I really don’t know what some of you complain about. A lot of weird delusions about how everyone does it at 15.


With all due respect, you do not represent the norm. Almost every woman I've met past the age of 20 is not a virgin. The only ones who are tend to be highly introverted and just don't like people all that much. And frankly, as somebody who's undesirable among women who like people, there's no way in hell I'm wasting my time trying to win the affections of somebody who's not into people.



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25 Dec 2017, 1:06 am

Sabreclaw wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Marknis wrote:
I lost my virginity when I was 21. I just hope that wasn't my first and only experience with love.


I was 24. I’m a female. I really don’t know what some of you complain about. A lot of weird delusions about how everyone does it at 15.


With all due respect, you do not represent the norm. Almost every woman I've met past the age of 20 is not a virgin. The only ones who are tend to be highly introverted and just don't like people all that much. And frankly, as somebody who's undesirable among women who like people, there's no way in hell I'm wasting my time trying to win the affections of somebody who's not into people.


It’s nothing to do woth not liking people or even being introverted. I wouldn’t call myself an introvert. I’m just not slu*ty. Heaps of people in the same boat.



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25 Dec 2017, 1:52 am

Sabreclaw wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Marknis wrote:
I lost my virginity when I was 21. I just hope that wasn't my first and only experience with love.


I was 24. I’m a female. I really don’t know what some of you complain about. A lot of weird delusions about how everyone does it at 15.


With all due respect, you do not represent the norm. Almost every woman I've met past the age of 20 is not a virgin. The only ones who are tend to be highly introverted and just don't like people all that much. And frankly, as somebody who's undesirable among women who like people, there's no way in hell I'm wasting my time trying to win the affections of somebody who's not into people.

My niece was doing it at 13/14. She slept around with guys at school, adults, and kids at youth group. Apparently a lot of the girls at my sisters youth group are sleeping around too they are 10-17 i dont know if the 10-13 are . And they are Christian girls, I can only imagine the non religious ones are doing it too. They also send naked pictures to random guys at school and flirt with the male youth staff. So it would seem most women and some guys are losing their virginity at early ages. It wasn’t as bad at my age but we didn’t have this kind of technology. I heard stories of band students having sex in the band closet during school. I unfortunately wasn’t a part of any sexual stuff :( I didn’t trust women after being tricked and picked in by female students.
I envy them. They really lucky. But I also worry about them as some of the sexual stuff they is dangerous. I wouldn’t want my kids doing it.



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25 Dec 2017, 1:56 am

hale_bopp wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
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Marknis wrote:
I lost my virginity when I was 21. I just hope that wasn't my first and only experience with love.


I was 24. I’m a female. I really don’t know what some of you complain about. A lot of weird delusions about how everyone does it at 15.


With all due respect, you do not represent the norm. Almost every woman I've met past the age of 20 is not a virgin. The only ones who are tend to be highly introverted and just don't like people all that much. And frankly, as somebody who's undesirable among women who like people, there's no way in hell I'm wasting my time trying to win the affections of somebody who's not into people.


It’s nothing to do woth not liking people or even being introverted. I wouldn’t call myself an introvert. I’m just not slu*ty. Heaps of people in the same boat.


Middle school girls talk about getting c*** in their mouth and p**** later tonight. So it’d seem that most girls today are quite slu*ty. Most the younger women at work seem to be slu*ty too. I think it’s a generation thing where they thinomts cool to be slu*ty perhaps from all the movies and shows? I’m quite shocked by how they act and talk. Like don’t get me wrong I’d be happy with a gf talking like that in private, but on media, in public, at work. :/ modesty seems to died out. Perhaps why I’m a rare type of person.



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25 Dec 2017, 1:59 am

hale_bopp wrote:
You weren’t like them. You were cheeky charming and whiny.

To be honest it seems like the main reason you had no luck was because you were short, where as with the OP its an attitude problem, and sly needs counselling. Also unlike ke them you were willing to change yourself/ try to improve.

Until Markins and sly learn to view things impartiality and accept what they need to work on, they’re not going to be boo 2.0

Is this why you started ignoring me?



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25 Dec 2017, 2:02 am

AngelRho wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
You weren’t like them. You were cheeky charming and whiny.

To be honest it seems like the main reason you had no luck was because you were short, where as with the OP its an attitude problem, and sly needs counselling. Also unlike ke them you were willing to change yourself/ try to improve.

Until Markins and sly learn to view things impartiality and accept what they need to work on, they’re not going to be boo 2.0

Sly appears to at least make an effort. His attitude isn’t just abysmal.

Marknis IMHO seems to take comfort in blaming anything/anyone else for his circumstances so he doesn’t have to take ANY direct ownership of what’s happening—or not, whatever. He hasn’t lashed out at anyone who seriously challenged his outlook lately, so that’s at least one improvement.


I try but never seems to make a difference what I do is never enough.



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25 Dec 2017, 2:33 am

nothing more tiring than having to be inauthentic.