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03 Oct 2018, 10:33 am

Luhluhluh wrote:
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That happens in comedy movies only. [Back to reality] Most guys have the common sense to be well groomed on a first date.
When was the last time you dated men? Please stop discounting the things women say. We are the ones with the actual experience dating men.
The "First Date Slob" phenomenon may explain most of those complaints in "I Can't Get A Girlfriend" threads wherein the OP complains about seeing attractive women in the company of unattractive men.

I don't know why some men would have so much disrespect for their dates as to show up with a three-day beard, unkempt hair, and wearing torn, stained, wrinkled clothing.



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03 Oct 2018, 10:42 am

Some women like the Daryl Dixon look.


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03 Oct 2018, 10:46 am

Fnord wrote:
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That happens in comedy movies only. [Back to reality] Most guys have the common sense to be well groomed on a first date.
When was the last time you dated men? Please stop discounting the things women say. We are the ones with the actual experience dating men.
The "First Date Slob" phenomenon may explain most of those complaints in "I Can't Get A Girlfriend" threads wherein the OP complains about seeing attractive women in the company of unattractive men.

I don't know why some men would have so much disrespect for their dates as to show up with a three-day beard, unkempt hair, and wearing torn, stained, wrinkled clothing.


I don't think it's necessarily disrespect, it's just that they aren't aware.

My partner had issues (and still does a bit) with this. For example, he needs to be reminded to wear deodorant after he showers. He doesn't realize that, although HE can't smell himself, other people can. He's still somewhat blind to the fact that there are other people there, and they can see him, and smell him, and they form an opinion of him if he smells bad.

The other example was recently he had a job interview, and he bought a new suit. He wanted to wear the suit right off the rack to the interview, even though both the sleeves and pant legs were way too long. He did not realize that this made him look incredibly unprofessional. He needed to be reminded to take the suit to a tailor and to have it fitted for him. Once again, he was blind to the fact that other people see what he looks like, and his clothing makes him appear unkempt and unaware of others.

The fact that there are romantic comedies that touch on this fact is because this problem does exist occasionally. And naturally because romantic comedies are written predominantly by men, they would know, which is why it's a stereotype.

EDIT: Even the Boston Globe did a piece on this recently

https://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/20 ... story.html


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03 Oct 2018, 11:27 am

I don’t mind wrinkled clothes once in a while but not to a first date. They got to make an effort!


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03 Oct 2018, 11:56 am

Luhluhluh wrote:
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How ND guys would rate the points or themselves ? I wasn't rating the points dude , it was a checklist of the qualities/inequalities I have on that list i.e. I'm not well dressed.


I meant how guys rated themselves. If many ND women actually think the points about looks & dressing are important is another issue, but I suspect they are not that important.


It's bit shallow if you ask me ( but that's human nature ) - clothes don't maketh the man. If you want a smart trophy BF look elsewhere :lol:


Not really. When I talk about clothing, I'm more referring to being CLEAN and wearing clothes that are appropriate and not ripped, smell, stained, and fit reasonably well.

You have no idea how many guys meet women on a first date and show up looking like they just rolled out of bed, with stained or ripped t-shirts, unwashed messy hair, and smell like they haven't taken a shower in a week. That's not being shallow, that's basic hygiene and good manners. It shows social awareness that they realize they need to at least look halfway presentable.


That happens in comedy movies only.

[Back to reality] Most guys have the common sense to be well groomed on a first date.


When was the last time you dated men?
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Please stop discounting the things women say. We are the ones with the actual experience dating men.



Nope, but I have seen male friends, siblings, relatives going to dates....everywhere.


The “that” in “that happens only in movie” is the “many” part of your sentence. I don’t believe it’s that common in real life out of general population.

Actually, the same can be said to you to many of your replies in the many guys’ complaining threads - they are the ones who are dating women.



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03 Oct 2018, 12:30 pm

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Some women like the Daryl Dixon look.


Exactly , a bit of rough. I'm ready for the zombie apocalypse :lol:


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03 Oct 2018, 12:36 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
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How ND guys would rate the points or themselves ? I wasn't rating the points dude , it was a checklist of the qualities/inequalities I have on that list i.e. I'm not well dressed.


I meant how guys rated themselves. If many ND women actually think the points about looks & dressing are important is another issue, but I suspect they are not that important.


It's bit shallow if you ask me ( but that's human nature ) - clothes don't maketh the man. If you want a smart trophy BF look elsewhere :lol:


Not really. When I talk about clothing, I'm more referring to being CLEAN and wearing clothes that are appropriate and not ripped, smell, stained, and fit reasonably well.

You have no idea how many guys meet women on a first date and show up looking like they just rolled out of bed, with stained or ripped t-shirts, unwashed messy hair, and smell like they haven't taken a shower in a week. That's not being shallow, that's basic hygiene and good manners. It shows social awareness that they realize they need to at least look halfway presentable.


That happens in comedy movies only.

[Back to reality] Most guys have the common sense to be well groomed on a first date.


When was the last time you dated men?
.

Please stop discounting the things women say. We are the ones with the actual experience dating men.



Nope, but I have seen male friends, siblings, relatives going to dates....everywhere.


The “that” in “that happens only in movie” is the “many” part of your sentence. I don’t believe it’s that common in real life out of general population.

Actually, the same can be said to you to many of your replies in the many guys’ complaining threads - they are the ones who are dating women.

I quote]

It really doesn't matter what you believe, because it happens as evidenced by what women have experienced.

If I create drama, so be it. I call out the sexist remarks as I see them. Don't like drama? Don't be sexist and lump all women into one group and dismiss what you have "seen" because you (as a man) have not the experience of actually dating men. When you start dating men, I'll possibly be more open to your criticism. Until then, maybe you can make some more of your fake dating profiles and do another one of your "studies" to prove how awful women are. :lol:


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03 Oct 2018, 12:40 pm

^ Uh Eh Whaaaa?

That escalated quickly. All I said was it was shallow , you disagreed - what happened ?


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03 Oct 2018, 12:45 pm

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^ Uh Eh Whaaaa?

That escalated quickly. All I said was it was shallow , you disagreed - what happened ?


Oh Boo's just obviously having a bad day. :lol:


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03 Oct 2018, 12:46 pm

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Actually, the same can be said to you to many of your replies in the many guys’ complaining threads - they are the ones who are dating women.



BTW: Citation needed :D


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03 Oct 2018, 12:50 pm

Btw, using a deodorant after shower alone is not enough; deodorants don’t last all day long to mask BO.
You need perfumes.



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03 Oct 2018, 12:57 pm

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Some women like the Daryl Dixon look.
And some men link the Rosie O'Donnel look. :eew:

Whuts yer point?



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03 Oct 2018, 1:02 pm

And some women like the Trump look. :lol:

Bad haircut.

Badly tailored suits.

And god knows what else.



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03 Oct 2018, 1:06 pm

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I get less and less attractive as this thread progresses
Oh, don't worry.

[opinion]

I'm pretty sure that it's not an "all or nothing" situation -- you may not have to check off each and every qualification to be attractive, but the more you can honestly check off, the more attractive you may be.

[/opinion]


I'm not that worried , being delusional has it's advantages - I'm gorgeous


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03 Oct 2018, 1:09 pm

Luhluhluh wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
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How ND guys would rate the points or themselves ? I wasn't rating the points dude , it was a checklist of the qualities/inequalities I have on that list i.e. I'm not well dressed.


I meant how guys rated themselves. If many ND women actually think the points about looks & dressing are important is another issue, but I suspect they are not that important.


It's bit shallow if you ask me ( but that's human nature ) - clothes don't maketh the man. If you want a smart trophy BF look elsewhere :lol:


Not really. When I talk about clothing, I'm more referring to being CLEAN and wearing clothes that are appropriate and not ripped, smell, stained, and fit reasonably well.

You have no idea how many guys meet women on a first date and show up looking like they just rolled out of bed, with stained or ripped t-shirts, unwashed messy hair, and smell like they haven't taken a shower in a week. That's not being shallow, that's basic hygiene and good manners. It shows social awareness that they realize they need to at least look halfway presentable.


That happens in comedy movies only.

[Back to reality] Most guys have the common sense to be well groomed on a first date.


When was the last time you dated men?
.

Please stop discounting the things women say. We are the ones with the actual experience dating men.



Nope, but I have seen male friends, siblings, relatives going to dates....everywhere.


The “that” in “that happens only in movie” is the “many” part of your sentence. I don’t believe it’s that common in real life out of general population.

Actually, the same can be said t.


It really doesn't matter what you believe, because it happens as evidenced by what women have experienced.

If I create drama, so be it. I call out the sexist remarks as I see them. Don't like drama? Don't be sexist and lump all women into one group and dismiss what you have "seen" because you (as a man) have not the experience of actually dating men. When you start dating men, I'll possibly be more open to your criticism. Until then, maybe you can make some more of your fake dating profiles and do another one of your "studies" to prove how awful women are. :lol:


Umm... I feel you base most of your experience on that one partner of yours; he would be extremely slob if he doesn’t even realize how to wear for a job interview.

I don’t sense you admire this man.... I don’t ever recall you ever said something positive about him. Just break up with him.



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03 Oct 2018, 1:11 pm

Fnord wrote:
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Some women like the Daryl Dixon look.
And some men link the Rosie O'Donnel look. :eew:

Whuts yer point?



No real point, just being silly. Honestly, though, I know a couple of women who think the scruffy look is sexy.


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