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25 Aug 2020, 3:29 am

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I wrote in another post, very attractive women make me shy and awkward and I will not enter into a competition for a woman. So, generally speaking, partners with potential might not even bother while many low-quality suitors will swamp you with attention.


According to data from Tinder the bottom 80% of men (in terms of attractiveness) are competing for the bottom 22% of women and the top 78% of women are competing for the top 20% of men.
https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/ti ... df370a6e9a

If you see a "really" physically attractive girl (not one on WP who claims to be physically attractive) then you have almost zero chance, but it gets worse, even with the bottom 22% of unnattractive women you only have a 1 in 5 chance! !

I don’t know, I’ve marched with so many models on tinder that i feel that must not always be true.


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25 Aug 2020, 3:34 am

alex wrote:
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I wrote in another post, very attractive women make me shy and awkward and I will not enter into a competition for a woman. So, generally speaking, partners with potential might not even bother while many low-quality suitors will swamp you with attention.


According to data from Tinder the bottom 80% of men (in terms of attractiveness) are competing for the bottom 22% of women and the top 78% of women are competing for the top 20% of men.
https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/ti ... df370a6e9a

If you see a "really" physically attractive girl (not one on WP who claims to be physically attractive) then you have almost zero chance, but it gets worse, even with the bottom 22% of unnattractive women you only have a 1 in 5 chance! !

I don’t know, I’ve marched with so many models on tinder that i feel that must not always be true.

But wouldn't that substantiate the point since the idea is that all of the most attractive women, and most of the women in general are chasing after/matching with the same 20% of guys?

When I was using Tinder, I would have been lucky to get 1 match for every 1000 or so swipes, and that was with me swiping pretty liberally.



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25 Aug 2020, 3:45 am

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
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I wrote in another post, very attractive women make me shy and awkward and I will not enter into a competition for a woman. So, generally speaking, partners with potential might not even bother while many low-quality suitors will swamp you with attention.


According to data from Tinder the bottom 80% of men (in terms of attractiveness) are competing for the bottom 22% of women and the top 78% of women are competing for the top 20% of men.
https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/ti ... df370a6e9a

If you see a "really" physically attractive girl (not one on WP who claims to be physically attractive) then you have almost zero chance, but it gets worse, even with the bottom 22% of unnattractive women you only have a 1 in 5 chance! !

I don’t know, I’ve marched with so many models on tinder that i feel that must not always be true.

But wouldn't that substantiate the point since the idea is that all of the most attractive women, and most of the women in general are chasing after/matching with the same 20% of guys?

When I was using Tinder, I would have been lucky to get 1 match for every 1000 or so swipes, and that was with me swiping pretty liberally.


Maybe. I guess 20% is not so exclusive. That’s 1/5 guys.

I think you need to use the boost feature though for it to be worth your time.


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25 Aug 2020, 3:49 am

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I wrote in another post, very attractive women make me shy and awkward and I will not enter into a competition for a woman. So, generally speaking, partners with potential might not even bother while many low-quality suitors will swamp you with attention.


According to data from Tinder the bottom 80% of men (in terms of attractiveness) are competing for the bottom 22% of women and the top 78% of women are competing for the top 20% of men.
https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/ti ... df370a6e9a

If you see a "really" physically attractive girl (not one on WP who claims to be physically attractive) then you have almost zero chance, but it gets worse, even with the bottom 22% of unnattractive women you only have a 1 in 5 chance! !

I don’t know, I’ve marched with so many models on tinder that i feel that must not always be true.

But wouldn't that substantiate the point since the idea is that all of the most attractive women, and most of the women in general are chasing after/matching with the same 20% of guys?

When I was using Tinder, I would have been lucky to get 1 match for every 1000 or so swipes, and that was with me swiping pretty liberally.


Maybe. I guess 20% is not so exclusive. That’s 1/5 guys.

I think you need to use the boost feature though for it to be worth your time.

Did/do you use the boost feature?

If so, how much of a difference has it made to the number of matches you get?



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25 Aug 2020, 3:51 am

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What do you call low-quality suitors?


Those that I won't be able to get into a worthwhile relationship with. For me, this is most of the NT population. For NTs, it might be most of the ND population.



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25 Aug 2020, 3:57 am

alex wrote:
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I wrote in another post, very attractive women make me shy and awkward and I will not enter into a competition for a woman. So, generally speaking, partners with potential might not even bother while many low-quality suitors will swamp you with attention.


According to data from Tinder the bottom 80% of men (in terms of attractiveness) are competing for the bottom 22% of women and the top 78% of women are competing for the top 20% of men.
https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/ti ... df370a6e9a

If you see a "really" physically attractive girl (not one on WP who claims to be physically attractive) then you have almost zero chance, but it gets worse, even with the bottom 22% of unnattractive women you only have a 1 in 5 chance! !

I don’t know, I’ve marched with so many models on tinder that i feel that must not always be true.


I know it is not true. It's the pattern you see among NTs, but it is not true for NDs. Tinder's statistics cannot catch it because they don't have results per neurotype, and 15% of the population not following that rule is in agreement with their results.



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25 Aug 2020, 3:59 am

I think it increases the the number of matches quite a bit. By a factor of maybe 4 or 5? I’m not sure. I think it got less effective when more people started using it.

I’ve even matched with a few famous people using it. :lol:


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25 Aug 2020, 4:00 am

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Maybe. I guess 20% is not so exclusive. That’s 1/5 guys.

I think you need to use the boost feature though for it to be worth your time.


Sorry Alex my maths is out. If 80% of men are competing for the bottom 22% of available physically attractive women then that's a 1 in 4 chance so we bottom 80% of men have slightly better odds than I first reported!

"phew"



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25 Aug 2020, 4:06 am

I guess you just need to swipe more if you want to get the same pickings as someone more attractive.


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25 Aug 2020, 4:39 am

Investment in time and ability to withstand rejection where they don't take the bait, catching girls is like catching fish....you gotta be patient



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25 Aug 2020, 4:47 am

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Investment in time and ability to withstand rejection where they don't take the bait, catching girls is like catching fish....you gotta be patient


You seem to have confused quantity with quality. It might be fine if the fish you catch is eatable, but that is not a good criteria for a potential partner.

A better "investment" of your time is to focus more time on fewer girls.



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25 Aug 2020, 5:17 am

rdos wrote:
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Investment in time and ability to withstand rejection where they don't take the bait, catching girls is like catching fish....you gotta be patient


You seem to have confused quantity with quality. It might be fine if the fish you catch is eatable, but that is not a good criteria for a potential partner.

A better "investment" of your time is to focus more time on fewer girls.


Well I'm out of the game :) but for guys having a hard time meeting girls who are "picky" they need to swipe right on everyone just to get a "few girls" who will go out with them.



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25 Aug 2020, 5:47 am

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
alex wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
rdos wrote:
I wrote in another post, very attractive women make me shy and awkward and I will not enter into a competition for a woman. So, generally speaking, partners with potential might not even bother while many low-quality suitors will swamp you with attention.


According to data from Tinder the bottom 80% of men (in terms of attractiveness) are competing for the bottom 22% of women and the top 78% of women are competing for the top 20% of men.
https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/ti ... df370a6e9a

If you see a "really" physically attractive girl (not one on WP who claims to be physically attractive) then you have almost zero chance, but it gets worse, even with the bottom 22% of unnattractive women you only have a 1 in 5 chance! !

I don’t know, I’ve marched with so many models on tinder that i feel that must not always be true.

But wouldn't that substantiate the point since the idea is that all of the most attractive women, and most of the women in general are chasing after/matching with the same 20% of guys?

When I was using Tinder, I would have been lucky to get 1 match for every 1000 or so swipes, and that was with me swiping pretty liberally.



The only logical explanation for that huge gap is that alex is seen way more attractive than Grand inquisitor by the majority of women on Tinder.

I also recall alex mentioned that he lives in a very wealthy area once - an area that only wealthy people can afford.

Alex seems to be one of those 20% of guys.



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25 Aug 2020, 5:56 am

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Investment in time and ability to withstand rejection where they don't take the bait, catching girls is like catching fish....you gotta be patient


You seem to have confused quantity with quality. It might be fine if the fish you catch is eatable, but that is not a good criteria for a potential partner.

A better "investment" of your time is to focus more time on fewer girls.


Nothing will work if the probability of prospects is extremely low.

That's something that a lot don't get, it is true that he needs to only find one but if only 1/1000 likes him then there's even a lower chance that those 1/1000 would like him in real life or even be able to meet him or even them to choose him over others; so for each 1/1000 maybe there's another 1/100 chance that this one would work with him; because let's face it: Even the extremely unattractive women on tinder can get more matches than a male model (and this has been proven in experiments btw, look it up); so if GI has let's say only 4 matches, those 4 matches probably have 50+ matches each. Women ALWAYS can have way more matches than guys on tinder.

That would be like that only 1/100,000 of women only would be willing to become his girlfriend; that's a population of a whole city.

And I didn't even consider the probability of him to like her back in real life into the equation.



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25 Aug 2020, 6:08 am

This thread proved that there's a sort of 'herd-thinking' when it comes what's attractive on tinder, and it varies GREATLY per country/community, so I would call it "herd thinking per country/community":

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=275336

When a same man gets 0 matches in one region, yet gets 100s of matches in another, then that only means there's a sort of very strong cultural-influenced herd thinking going on.



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25 Aug 2020, 6:10 am

cyberdad wrote:
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Investment in time and ability to withstand rejection where they don't take the bait, catching girls is like catching fish....you gotta be patient


You seem to have confused quantity with quality. It might be fine if the fish you catch is eatable, but that is not a good criteria for a potential partner.

A better "investment" of your time is to focus more time on fewer girls.


Well I'm out of the game :) but for guys having a hard time meeting girls who are "picky" they need to swipe right on everyone just to get a "few girls" who will go out with them.


I suspect it is because you are out of the game that you can give guys here such bad advice. :mrgreen: