Vaush - The Rate Of Male Virginity Is SKYROCKETING

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26 Mar 2021, 4:56 pm

Now...where did I say that????



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26 Mar 2021, 4:58 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Now...where did I say that????
Caring ... thinking ... whatever.

The point is, whether a person cares or not, the only thing that "cures" virginity is sex with another person.



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26 Mar 2021, 4:59 pm

Pretty soon after I stopped caring whether I was a virgin or not------I lost my virginity.

Had I let myself cogitate over this, I might still be a virgin today.



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26 Mar 2021, 5:03 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Had I let myself cogitate over this, I might still be a virgin today.

I can think of a few members on this board who can't seem to understand that.

...Philosophical conclusion that can be made is that we tend to lose the things we don't care for.



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26 Mar 2021, 8:29 pm

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- The more tight-knit religious subcultures.
- Immigrant communities.
- Various organized subcultures of people who would otherwise be outcasts, e.g. the LGBTQ+ community.
- Old-fashioned fraternal organizations such as the Freemasons, for those few people who are still into them.


While I'm basically an agnostic I actually think the decline in church membership has had some negative effects. I'm more of a shinto person myself, if I had to be religious, but having that regular shared space where the community could meet for a shared purpose had some pretty obvious benefits when it comes to building a sense of community. I think a mainstream secular alternative (that also didn't exclude believers) would be great.



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26 Mar 2021, 10:02 pm

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While I'm basically an agnostic I actually think the decline in church membership has had some negative effects. I'm more of a shinto person myself, if I had to be religious, but having that regular shared space where the community could meet for a shared purpose had some pretty obvious benefits when it comes to building a sense of community. I think a mainstream secular alternative (that also didn't exclude believers) would be great.

There do exist some churchlike groups for humanists (who are mostly atheists and agnostics) such as the Ethical Cultural Society, the American Humanist Association, and the Sunday Assembly.


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26 Mar 2021, 10:22 pm

I’ve sat in on Ethical Culture meetings.



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28 Mar 2021, 3:59 am

Mona Pereth wrote:
There do exist some churchlike groups for humanists (who are mostly atheists and agnostics) such as the Ethical Cultural Society, the American Humanist Association, and the Sunday Assembly.


Exactly, I just think these organizations need to be bigger. I'm actually going to check my local one when restrictions start getting lifted. They're not normalized in our culture yet the way church on Sunday is. But I generally think the local community would be served well by weekly gatherings. Not just for the male virginity issue, but also just making friends and general loneliness among people. It would also be a great basis for community action/mutual aid.



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28 Mar 2021, 5:08 am

Maybe people should stop just obsessing over like the literally least important factor for sex.
Not having had sex yet does not mean you are a scourge on the earth and everyone can see it a mile away. I mean a am a woman and yeah I have no idea if any of the fellow people at wal-mart are virgins or not like I litterally don't even think about virginity or lack of it when I see people at walmart. So idk if you go to walmart and assume everyone knows you are the saddest male virgin ever you are doing walmart wrong...like literally no one cares.

you can just straight up wear pajamas and no one will even raise an eyebrow about it....so stupid to think everyone is just sniffing and thinking to themselves 'eww i smell virgin' like that is not how people will react.


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28 Mar 2021, 6:23 am

MidnightRose wrote:
But I generally think the local community would be served well by weekly gatherings. Not just for the male virginity issue, but also just making friends and general loneliness among people. It would also be a great basis for community action/mutual aid.

I love the idea of this. Our village hall does things like bingo and kids' dances. I'm still building up my courage to go to any though. My undiagnosed husband probably behaves more autistically than me and wants nothing to do with it :mrgreen:


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28 Mar 2021, 9:36 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Maybe people should stop just obsessing over like the literally least important factor for sex.
Not having had sex yet does not mean you are a scourge on the earth and everyone can see it a mile away. I mean a am a woman and yeah I have no idea if any of the fellow people at wal-mart are virgins or not like I litterally don't even think about virginity or lack of it when I see people at walmart. So idk if you go to walmart and assume everyone knows you are the saddest male virgin ever you are doing walmart wrong...like literally no one cares.

you can just straight up wear pajamas and no one will even raise an eyebrow about it....so stupid to think everyone is just sniffing and thinking to themselves 'eww i smell virgin' like that is not how people will react.


That's a reasonable take on the childish notion of "still having your V card" or whatever, but unfortunately it's not as simple as that.

There's a whole other side of it, ranging from a sense of "FOMO" knowing that (what seems like) everybody else is engaged in various forms of relationships and having sex, to the completely involuntary and sometimes intrusively intense sense of loneliness that comes with being unable to find or sustain a relationship.

So it's not just a case of "not getting any sex" and the social uncoolness people perceive as resulting from that, it's a potential symptom of less superficial issues. Lack of a support network, inability to start a family, mental strain of desperately wanting but not being able to have a companion. Rather more important than society implying you're a bit of a loser for not being successful at vacuous bed-hopping.



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28 Mar 2021, 5:00 pm

One reason could be because a lot of men don't want to have sex with women who are just going to abort their babies in the end.


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28 Mar 2021, 5:02 pm

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One reason could be because a lot of men don't want to have sex with women who are just going to abort their babies in the end.


That might matter for men who are actively looking to produce a child but most people don't only pursue sex to reproduce. Plenty of men would rather know with certainty that any pregnancy that results will be terminated instead of worrying about if they'll be bound to a short-term partner for the rest of their lives.