Pick-up lines?
Yes, if you can discuss them honestly and reasonably.
wow, this is kind of new to me, passive aggressiveness, that means that if someone discuss something in a grumpy way, or in an angry way, instead of being calm, it that means that these are manifestations of it?
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And therefore invalid, by definition. Right?
How's the misogyny working for you, DataSage?
Oh, right... they're crawling on you like fleas. I forgot.
And this has exactly what to do with you having a hissy fit when a woman won't give you her number?
Note the classic technique displayed here: When you're losing the argument, try to make it be about something it was never about in the first place. That way, you might still have a chance to win!
No, if someone discusses something in a dishonest, unreasonable way, that is a manifestation of it.
I see, but how can we really tell if someone is being dishonest and unreasonable, as this is new to me, the term perhaps, I'm afraid that this could be a very subjective thing.
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Precisely. All this neo-feminist crap is just hate speech because certain women are angry lesbians.
Pretty f*****g good. I'm sitting here smoking a cigar and drinking a six pack in my boxers while listening to Cream.
"Hissy fit?" I can't really blame you for interpreting it that way, but then again, you do have AS like me, I'm presuming. If that's the case, I can understand how my words would come across as a "hissy fit," but my words coupled with my body language in that instance give off a very different message. Shoot me for making progress in my life.
That would be you:
This is not good, no good, things will get very ugly after this I'm afraid.
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Oh, now THAT'S original!
I stand by my first assessment: Pathetic.
If that's the best argument you can come up with, don't bother with law school, okay?
Awesome! You couldn't have made it that far without hating women.
What do you mean, progress? What were you listening to before? Barry Manilow?
Oh, classic. What's next? "I know you are, but what am I?"
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Not hate merely a group of narcissists arguing who is the most deluded with their own grandiosity.
Wouldn't be such a big deal
if the advice of one of the o
verblown personalities' (yes
myself included *sigh*), were
not given semi-official sanction.
I never understood WHY that thread
was stickied, and was going to unsticky
it, long ago, when I noticed that Alex
made the action himself. That convinced
me not to, but I had hoped that the (brief)
discussion then, would have caught his notice,
and, being a bit more experienced now, that
he'd have unstickied it, for it's silliness.
Now that it's clear that he still does support
the claims made there, it seems of utmost
importance to provide the contrasting (and
far more prevalent) view, that the information
contained within is suspect, to say the least.
Alex has done a wonderful thing by providing us with this forum.
However, that doesn't mean he's right in supporting pickup artist techniques, which from what I've read appear to consist mainly of getting women with low self-esteem to attach themselves to you by treating them badly. I feel sorry for women who fall for that nonsense.
Me, I'm pretty much the opposite. I'm the kind of girl who only goes out with men who treat her extremely well -- to a degree that would probably make DataSage's head explode with rage if he knew the extent of it.
But then, what else would you expect from an angry lesbian?
Sorry to intrude, but I find some things here really funny
lol
Awesome! You couldn't have made it that far without hating women.
lol, good one.
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However, that doesn't mean he's right in supporting pickup artist techniques, which from what I've read appear to consist mainly of getting women with low self-esteem to attach themselves to you by treating them badly. I feel sorry for women who fall for that nonsense.
Me, I'm pretty much the opposite. I'm the kind of girl who only goes out with men who treat her extremely well -- to a degree that would probably make DataSage's head explode with rage if he knew the extent of it.
But then, what else would you expect from an angry lesbian?
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maybe you should change your nickname? lol
ok, getting back to pick up lines, if we can, probably for a man, it would be better to hear what a woman likes, how it would be for you, or how would you like a pick up line to be?
I think by just saying "Hi" and see what happens? well, I think that might be good in theory, although in practice I would fail.
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Yes, there was a topic here once, wasn't there? heh.
This is a tough question for me, actually. You're asking another aspie how to start communicating with another person! Which I almost *never* do (thank God I'm a girl!)
However -- I personally think the whole idea of a "line" is overrated.
If I don't find a guy attractive, no magic combination of words will overcome that.
And if I do think a guy's attractive, then all he can do to wreck it is to say the wrong thing. So maybe it's a good idea not to be too creative, so you don't risk being cheesy or offensive.
"Hi" is a good start. If she ignores that, it's a pretty good indication she's not interested, yet you can't worry you said the wrong thing.
But you've got to keep it going from there. You can't just say "hi" and then expect her to carry the ball (this has happened to me -- it's really uncomfortable!)
Complimenting her outfit is good, but first make sure it's actually nice. If she's wearing ratty jeans and a T-shirt with paint stains on it, it'll come off annoyingly false. Also, you still have to keep going from there.
I was reading an article yesterday on starting conversations with people. It suggested talking about a shared experience -- like if you're at the gym, you could ask how her workout's going. If you're in a line-up, you could comment on how fast it's moving, or not. Things like that.
I think my first point is probably the most important, though -- if she finds you attractive, you don't have to say the magic words, you just have to be pleasant. If I think a guy who starts talking to me is cute, I'll be motivated to try to keep the dopiest small talk going. But if he's not my type, he could be the world's most brilliant conversationalist, and I might enjoy talking to him but still wouldn't want to go out with him.
lol, hopefully girls can make pick up lines too, it would be nice for me if a girl get close to me and ask me to go out, instead of me doing this and screwing up, lol
I think that as well, I suppose a "line" means when you are meeting someone you don't know, a complete stranger and talk to that person and see if a relationship can start from there, if that's the case, I don't think I would go there.
I guess I will wait for things happening with someone I already know, from somewhere, if there is a friendship first, I don't know, I don't think using a line to a complete stranger would work for me
But you've got to keep it going from there. You can't just say "hi" and then expect her to carry the ball (this has happened to me -- it's really uncomfortable!)
Complimenting her outfit is good, but first make sure it's actually nice. If she's wearing ratty jeans and a T-shirt with paint stains on it, it'll come off annoyingly false. Also, you still have to keep going from there.
I was reading an article yesterday on starting conversations with people. It suggested talking about a shared experience -- like if you're at the gym, you could ask how her workout's going. If you're in a line-up, you could comment on how fast it's moving, or not. Things like that.
I think my first point is probably the most important, though -- if she finds you attractive, you don't have to say the magic words, you just have to be pleasant. If I think a guy who starts talking to me is cute, I'll be motivated to try to keep the dopiest small talk going. But if he's not my type, he could be the world's most brilliant conversationalist, and I might enjoy talking to him but still wouldn't want to go out with him.
Yeah, I guess making a situation, a pleasant one for her, is a lot better than just a pick up line, makes sense, that can make her get her interested or at least be friendly and enjoy a conversation or doing something together, even if nothing happens after that, I guess it would be at least a good experience with a nice person. At least that is what I think, without rushing anything, so maybe something would happened without actually looking desperately for someone later. That sounds good in theory, the practice is what it seems nearly impossible due to my problems and issues, but at least it's good to know, mostly out of curiosity, which can be helpful in the future, who knows.
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