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For me that hasn't been so true. I have been in relationships where we have not been getting along and at the times don't really like each other at all but we still have had sex. It is meaningless. Still it is enjoyable. During the interaction I don't think nothing of the other person and don't think they do me either. It's just sex and when it's finished - I don't say nothing and just leave or vice versa they go. We don't even speak to each other. Apart from saying do you wanna do this or them asking me to.
Ah -- so sex is the coin that women use to pay men back for sucking up to them? I'm glad the OP disagrees with you here, otherwise he might just suck up to a girl until she put out and then dump her.
Good point, Ancalagon. AutisticMalcontents idea of women as people who need a "guy" to "fulfill their emotional needs" would be more offensive to many women than anything the OP said.
Having said that, in some cases, this *is* the way relationships work. Sex is the reward given by the female for the male behaving in a certain way. Althouth common enough, I believe this to be dysfunctional, though.
How can you profess to know what they're really like if you've never been to one? You could say the same generalization for any career: computer programmers are sad introverts, accountants are dull. These statements say nothing about the career in question, but they say a lot about how we like to offer our opinions on subjects we actually know next to nothing about. I've never turned to prostitutes either, but I can understand why they exist and I don't think it fair to denigrate either the prostitutes or their clients. Realistically, given that it's been around for thousands of years, the vast majority of 'acts of prostitution' have resulted in little harm to anybody apart from the anger engendered in the holier-than-thou, repressed, self-righteous religious fanatics.
If you can't grow your own food, you buy it. Simple as that. Of course the self-sufficient look down on the morally bankrupt who shop at Tescos, but that is the nature of us. The problem is not in the free actions taken by adults, but in the minds of the others who are not content just to accept the difference. No, they have to be scornful to those who behave differently to them.
Accountants, computer programmers, and whoever else, saying they lead, dull boring lives would be a generalization because we don't know how they live their lives individually.
But to the matter at hand, prostitutes. We know what prostitutes do by profession. Tell me, what self respecting woman would let guys have sex with her for money? Tell me, is that something you think is "honorable" or merely a "job". Why would a woman to do such a thing? Something isn't quite right with the picture.
Yes, I suppose from a non-religious standpoint, it can be viewed as "just a job" or an acceptable occupation available for women to be engaged in, so that can men let their sexual needs out for a price. However, religiously speaking, it is sinful behavior in God's eyes. I'm not cursing prostitutes and saying they're going to burn in Hell, that is not for me to say, that is for God to say and God to say alone. However, He has made it perfectly clear through scripture in the Bible that sexual immorality of any kind is sinful. Prostitutes can do whatever they want, I have no say in what they do, but I know that what they do is sinful to God.
I have my own sins too, and I don't think I'm perfect, but pointing out that it is considered sinful under God's eyes, as it is written in the Bible. I'm sure you're going to say that I'm judging them and "judge not lest you yourself be judged", but I never say anything hateful or cruel about them or thought them unworthy of life, and everything I've said has been backed up by scripture, these are not my base opinions, but God's words. I'm just pointing out that they must be sad people if they take delight in what they do, or they do it because of some other reason.
I'm not excusing the actions of prostitutes, but I am explaining that some of them are victims in their own right, although they continue to sin.
Funny, I thought it was Jesus who called the shots on who got into heaven, not you...
I'm not saying I condone the acts of willing prostitutes either, but as far as I'm concerned, I'm not going to judge them for anything they choose to do... Judge not, lest ye be judged...
Jesus has the final say in all matters, I'm not arguing about that. But the Bible is God's own Word, correct? So everything said in it is exactly what God/Jesus wants and expects of us as his children.
I'm sure you remember the story where a bunch of Jews were about to stone a women because she was an adulteress. Jesus told them "He who is without sin cast the first stone", and they left. Then He said to the woman "Stand up, your sins are forgiven, go and sin no more".
Jesus wants to save as many people as possible on this Earth as He can because He loves us all. Those who accept Jesus Christ as their Savior and repent of their sins will be forgiven, as the Bible says. I'm not saying prostitutes are cannon fodder for Hell, but I am saying that if they don't repent of their sins and continue in their sin when they die, they will go to Hell, the Bible makes it abundantly clear. These are not my words, but God's Word. As long as there is life and breath in a person, they have a chance to be saved, but when they're dead, it's game over.
"Judging" would be calling/thinking them unworthy of life, and thinking that they are disgusting, vile, immoral women who are automatically Hell bound after they die. We all are guilty of sin, but God makes it clear the kinds of people who will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven if they continue in their sin.
Revelations 21:6-8
"He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars- their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
Women get forced to play games. Like the sex roles of what men want. It may seem subtle and not noticable to some and to others it's very noticable. I guess it depends on the guy. However, most men are sexually domineering and aggressive in ways that women are not.
I have experimented and tried to be as domineering in that respect; as to feel equal and as strong. Even more sexually aggressive than they but it does never seem to work. It always feels like they take over. Most women enjoy that, as I do and pleasantly get use to. It feels natural to me.
I can be pretty bossy and domineering in relationships. With my own sexual fetishes and have noticed that my boyfriends have really enjoyed me going off with my own style.
However, I find that I'm the one that mostly does as I'm told or as directed to. Naturally I'm submissive. I have rebelled against this with experimenting but have found that it has really not made any difference. When push comes to shoove - it is just the same' ol same 'ol. That doesn't bother me because sex could never bore me. I love it.
It doesn't seem to matter what postion your in. Wether your the person that chooses or your on top - it still feels as though men are the sexually dominant.
*stares at the dominos advertisement in the bottom left corner of the screen while stomach demands dinner*
Oh, sorry, I was a bit sidetracked. Now, now, where were we? Oh yes, the guy asking how he can get sex "with female". (Love the grammar by the way)
My tips,
Unless you're either lucky or willing to put up with a lot of s**t, you're not getting into a woman's pants unless she happens to be a hooker, or an escort or whatever. Assessing your situation, I'd recommend just getting a hooker and not telling your friends. Is that really that hard? That's mainly all I've got to say.
that indiana jones guy who takes out your heart
and f**k jesus he has no place in my life
i'll have sex without thinking he is watching me
(he is a creepy guy)
Jesus likes his porn live.
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Ignorance is surely not bliss, because if you are ignorant, you will ignore the bliss around you.
Thats because it wasn't supposed to be love. There are many thrills in life that has nothing to do with love. Casual sex happens to be one of them.
Excuse me, but I know that many self respecting women like to have guys use them as a pin cushion, simply because they are using them for pleasure as well. The point in these actions are fun and relief of stress, which is something both sides benifit from. Also, there are just as many sad prostitutes as there are happy ones, so saying most of them have a tragic life story isn't accurate.
Only according to your sense of morality. Sure, not all pimps are nice guys, however I also know that not all of them are abusive, and not all prostitutes work for pimps. Many are actually independant workers.
Also, you mention how a pimp can be controlling. Have you ever considered how your god controls you with fear, saying "no you can't act on your natural impulses, thats a sin, and if you sin well, your ass is mine!!" Now THAT sounds like a sad existance/life story.
Ok, it says that in a book. Did you know that in other books it says you will be met with almost a hundred virgins in heaven in which you can bang all day? Give me a break. Sex of any kind under eachothers consent is not "wrong" in any way, it's nature (even within other animals besides humans as well). Some just like to use this pleasure for income.
"There is a reason" -- but you don't say what it is, for the non-religious anyway.
What about arranged marriages? Marriages that are on the rocks? Sex therapists and relationship experts recommend sex as one method of reconnecting with an estranged spouse.
It was also a mistake because it's not true in general. Deep love and caring is not a prerequisite for marriage. (Not that it's a bad thing!) And releasing sexual lust is not a bad thing either.
This is an accurate observation many times, but certainly not always. But even if it were always true, it is morally irrelevant.
Yes, he wants sex without romance. What's wrong with sex without romance? This was my point with the married couple + quickie comment. They're not being romantic at all -- just humping.
Wanting women for sex is not at all the same as degrading or dehumanizing someone, or abandoning them afterwards.
Yes, He did, however, tell me, did Jesus engage sexually with prostitutes or was thinking about soliciting prostitutes, like the OP was thinking about?
No, but that's not the point. You said that being around them was wrong.
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I agree. I'm not of the opinion that sex should be bought and sold in general, but at least prostitutes are honest about selling it.
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that indiana jones guy who takes out your heart
and f**k jesus he has no place in my life
i'll have sex without thinking he is watching me
(he is a creepy guy)
Yes sadly the media make her out to be this goddess who wants nothing more than to steal the hearts of men. What rubbish.....
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Yes, He did, however, tell me, did Jesus engage sexually with prostitutes or was thinking about soliciting prostitutes, like the OP was thinking about?
Technically, nobody is worthy of salvation on their own, except they attain it through Jesus Christ. If He spent His time on Earth eating with sinners and associating with the tax gatherers and prostitutes, what makes you say He wouldn't let them in as well? Plus, ignoring that, if said prostitutes were to repent later in life, wouldn't they receive the same reward? (I'm referring to the parable of the workers in the vineyard here...)
But the heart of the story takes place in between when he said "he who is without sin..." and "...go and sin no more".
After everyone left, he said, "Is there no one left to condemn you?"
She said, "No one."
Then he said, "Then neither do I condemn you."
My biggest problem with your position is the lack of compassion. You bothered to remind people that women are people too. But your disgust with prostitutes and their clients has blinded you to the fact that they are people too.
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