Video of me teaching Seduction to Aspies

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You mean wow-man

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRUp_wBTCQc[/youtube]

Tom, good video and I agree wholeheartedly with all you said. I haven't seen anyone lose it in this thread though. Everything seems civil enough to me. *shrugs*

My intentions were not to have a go at Tom or anyone else for that matter. I just disagree that most women will respond warmly to having a man try to 'put her in her place' and throwing insults and expecting positive attention out. Not to mention that I find it naive that anyone thinks there is any single fail-proof system to picking someone up.

Maybe I didn't make the distinction between whether this was about getting laid or initiating a possible relationship. I took it as the latter. Whether that was unclear from the beginning or it just wasn't obvious to me, I can't tell. If it is simply about getting into bed with someone, then fair enough, and as I said, maybe it would work on some women. I still don't agree that the majority would fall for it as easily as you're saying they would, although a quick shag would come faster than a relationship. Then again, I don't frequent bars and clubs, so I've never heard of the results of such a strategy. I'm simply basing this on what I've heard from other women and my own thoughts and feelings.

I think someone needs to go out with a hidden camera and report back.

The seduction rituals are usually the same in both cases... unless if you're talking about prostitution.

That is one time where I'm glad someone beat me to it.

Dang.....

Most of the video is still loading, but a couple of pointers so far...

Tom, if you are serious about seduction/getting the leg over, whatever, make a RIGID PERSONAL DISCIPLINE of tidying up the drawer area and making the bed before switching the camera on???

You KNOW it makes sense...

I discern from the use of glasses, slicked down hair and stubble that you are not entirely happy being perceived as a pretty boy with nice eyes and would rather be taken more seriously...and the quasi tubercular cough shows that you have taken our comments to heart and now prefer to show a more vulnerable side...


Now, to business...

If "your opinions are not you" then they ought to be...otherwise you are not being true to yourself...or honest with those you address, because your opinions are formed by who you are and you experiences of life.

In 12 years I have always found that I reacted to the same people exactly the same way, on or off, the internet, though, if anything, I can get a far better picture of who they are over the internet.

What you are talking about is actually not how to communicate who you are, or even your opinions, but how to manipulate an online discussion in your favour...

What you say should always be more important than how you say it...and how YOU feel about what you say should always be more important than how other people react to it...

To be honest, WP is far more civilised than any other forum I know of, perhaps BECAUSE people are, usually, far more interested in communicating in a literal way than in manipulating for approval or attention.

My intentions were not to have a go at Tom or anyone else for that matter. I just disagree that most women will respond warmly to having a man try to 'put her in her place' and throwing insults and expecting positive attention out. Not to mention that I find it naive that anyone thinks there is any single fail-proof system to picking someone up.
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Well in all honesty the textbook is kind of a lot more complicated than that. Feel free to read it and make your own mind up, though personally as I have said, Ledochowski is the best tool in my opinion. Not the Mystery Method, which most here seem to be using.

The thing is that most of the people on this site at this rate are going to get neither. One thing can lead to another, certainly the increased confidence is going to exponentially increase their chances of a relationship. You see where I am going with this.

You are like university age - seems kind of strange to me that you avoid the former. The latter I might understand.

Honestly how many women are going to admit that this works on them though? Anyway, you kind of haven't said how a nice guy can allure a nice girl. I would love to know to be honest.

I suppose when my (NT) friend is pissed enough again, I might consider recording the whole thing. Remind me in a month after exams if you are really bothered. Though I have seen this in action, there is a small group in Durham who explicitly play the game whom I randomly ended up being friends with.

QFT.
Thanks for warning us what might come our way, Tom.

For a moment I thought you were a woman. It seems to me it's a bit weird that a guy is supposed to learn other guys how to seduce women...

Tom, why you don't post non explicit soft-stripping vids of yours? I bet that the ladies would prefer them much more than those guru-vids.

Any objections?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRGsJ4TPews&feature=channel_page[/youtube]

You go Tom!

Don't the this anti-seductive bunch bring you down.

You are on the right path and you inspire me.

Its all theorotical now anyway. I have a beautiful girlfriend now and i wouldn't dream of trying to mess around with her like is described in the first video. Maybe it only works on those you do not love. Thanks for saying i inspire.

I'm not sure seduction as a lot of people conceptualize it even exists. The idea that you can create attraction where it does not exist physically seems kind of bogus to me.

The way I see it is that you have a pool of girls that will be initially attracted to you so long as you don't come off as socially inexperienced relative to them. There's nothing you can really do to increase this pool besides improve your appearance, and even then, the type of women that are part of this pool exist within some sort of fixed range that cannot be changed beyond some bound. What PUA's try to sell as seduction is merely giving the right cues to women who were already somewhat attracted to you before you had any sort of interaction with them.

does TS mean that this is not a valid way of seduction then?

That is not seduction..


That would be because this is what seduction actually is...