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RetroGamer87
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28 Nov 2018, 8:36 pm

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I work 12 hour days, with a 1 to 2 hour commute each way (depending on whether the trains screw up, and whether I drive part of the way).

I'm not saying you should do this. I wish you could have gotten into auto mechanics or something. Could you become knowledgeable enough about guns to become a gun shop counterperson?


Mechanics is a horrible field for aspies

As for guns I have lots of knowledge it no experience and they won’t hire anyone with out 2 years experience selling guns
Since no one will hire me I can’t get experience. Eventually all the guys with experience will die and then i dont know what. Same with plumbers and machinists they won’t hire without experience but if they don’t train people then their won’t be any future ones.


I'm curious about your statement that mechanics is a horrible field for aspies? All of the men on my father's side of the family including my brother have been engineers including mechanical engineers, and they've all been excellent at auto mechanics. One even designed huge roller coasters throughout the UK. All of these men were autistic to the best of my understanding. My mother's father was also very aspie and he was an aeronautical engineer. Just piping in some food for thought, although I know you aren't a trained engineer.

Mechanics would be horrible for me. Too much multitasking. Too many small tasks that have to be performed in rapid succession. I don't think I'm stupid but I don't know what kind of job I could do where I won't get screwed over by my executive function and lack of short-term memory. The sort of job that only requires me to think about one thing at a time.


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28 Nov 2018, 8:37 pm

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You work in a place, Sly, that would never exist in New York City LOL
Really? From where do the good people of NYC procure their firearms?


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28 Nov 2018, 8:38 pm

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What do you mean it's a turn-off? For whom? Potential partners? Why?
I don't feel that way at all. I know quite a few women who would love a boyfriend with a tool belt. lol. I mean that sincerely. They like men who can fix things and be stereotypically "masculine".


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Some women happen to REALLY dig those are into engineering and computers.


While all this is true, as sly said the problem is that pretty often that's all I even do. The only person I ever felt like I was in a relationship nixed it. I'm caught up wishing that engineering weren't 'stereotypically masculine', maybe then the one person who actually understood me could get comfortable with my day-to-day tech grind & the obsessions that go with it.

I don't often meet anyone like who you described. They may be looking for someone who does some kind of engineering as a day job but not necessarily someone who lives, eats, sleeps & breathes a nonstop international industry.


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28 Nov 2018, 8:42 pm

I've never heard any woman say that a man being an engineer or mechanic or whatever would be a turn off. If anything it would be appealing to have a man who's handy. Handiness even fits into conventional standards of "manliness".


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28 Nov 2018, 8:44 pm

It just wouldn't work in NYC for one reason: the hunting trophies.

There would be protests galore.....



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28 Nov 2018, 8:46 pm

Don't you get trophies for hunting giant rats, sewer gators and real estate tycoons?


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28 Nov 2018, 8:46 pm

I have had the same mindset from a young age. Poor Me, Why Me? I have been sitting at home doing nothing but collect welfare for 10+ years. Lots of time to watch TV, play video games, go to the beach or cycle on my bike or anything to pass time by. I had a bad childhood and I use that as the main reason why I do not want to do anything with my life. It would not matter if I put in more effort because I never had a chance due to bad luck. If only I was born into a rich family or won the lottery, my life would be way better.



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28 Nov 2018, 8:46 pm

Yeah sure....LOL



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28 Nov 2018, 8:46 pm

People aren't catching my drift, some of us have been pigeonholed into only being handy. The world effectively doesn't want much to do with me unless I'm fixing something, improving something else or testing software.

My interactions with people are 100% surface-level lately. Basically all women are sapiosexual in some ways but that doesn't stop tech companies from endlessly profiling them as irrelevant to their engineering aims. User friendliness amounts to huge ignorance towards the tech world.


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28 Nov 2018, 8:47 pm

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... no social skills ... extreme anxiety ... autism ... cannot get a decent job ... always broke ... don't have any family (to help me when things do go wrong) ... very few friends ... owe tens of thousands of dollars ... no means of paying ... my credit score is in the toilet ... fat ... average looking at best ... a high pitched voice ... everyone mistake me for a woman ... can't even grow a proper beard...
With all of those causes going against you, why do you think that there is bigotry against you for being celibate?

Both the bigotry and the celibacy are correlative effects of the causes you mentioned.


I was specifically referring to attitudes of calling people like me names like "loser" or declaring that all lonely men are misogynists, specifically because of our single status.

I see your point. I've heard people criticise long-term single guys for being single but then they call them creepy for trying to get a date. It's like they can't win either way. Either they're a loser for being single or their creepy for trying to get unsingle. The only way to win is to already have a girlfriend.


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28 Nov 2018, 8:48 pm

Woman DIG handy guys!

One of the reasons why they didn't dig me when I was younger.....was because I wasn't HANDY......

They LOVE men who can fix things. And nothing can dissuade me from that opinion.



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28 Nov 2018, 8:52 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
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... no social skills ... extreme anxiety ... autism ... cannot get a decent job ... always broke ... don't have any family (to help me when things do go wrong) ... very few friends ... owe tens of thousands of dollars ... no means of paying ... my credit score is in the toilet ... fat ... average looking at best ... a high pitched voice ... everyone mistake me for a woman ... can't even grow a proper beard...
With all of those causes going against you, why do you think that there is bigotry against you for being celibate?

Both the bigotry and the celibacy are correlative effects of the causes you mentioned.


I was specifically referring to attitudes of calling people like me names like "loser" or declaring that all lonely men are misogynists, specifically because of our single status.

I see your point. I've heard people criticise long-term single guys for being single but then they call them creepy for trying to get a date. It's like they can't win either way. Either they're a loser for being single or their creepy for trying to get unsingle. The only way to win is to already have a girlfriend.


I think the only way to win is to befriend everyone we can & stop freaking out about the ones we love the most. Granted, those ladies already have the greatest worldly ability to freak us out but we can be better people towards them if we can just chill. That's the only identifiable moral to my story for now at least.


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28 Nov 2018, 8:54 pm

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You work in a place, Sly, that would never exist in New York City LOL
Really? From where do the good people of NYC procure their firearms?

outside of new York city.



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28 Nov 2018, 9:03 pm

At 25, 30, 35, etc you will reach the age when you know you just have to give up because you never had a chance and will never have a chance regardless of what you do with your life. It is easier doing nothing and becoming a welfare bum when you give up and accept you never had a chance at dating. Single men get nothing from the government and have to pay to support single mothers and couple with children living it up off hard working unwanted single guys. Life could be worse though divorced father having to pay a fortune in divorce settlement and pay child support and spouse support. Divorced fathers often do not get to see their children and have to pay ongoing child support and ongoing spouse support.



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28 Nov 2018, 9:12 pm

Well I work hard because I actually like my job. Basically my #1 fear is me liking my job more than my friends like me.


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28 Nov 2018, 9:13 pm

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Single men get nothing from the government and have to pay to support single mothers and couple with children living it up on off hard working unwanted single guys.


Because single guys can't afford condoms?


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