Signs of the "not potential partner"-zone.

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Admiral_Awesome
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04 Nov 2009, 3:15 am

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Here are the signs I noticed of the "not potential partner"-zone or what most guys like to call it here the "friends" zone:

1- When she talks to you about her pms/period : Girls usually don't talk about such "private" things in front the guys they like.

2- When she talks about other guys' attractive qualities or when she makes obvious reactions toward some attractive qualities in other guys.

3- When you and her don't make a physically typical couple (some typical models: The guy is taller than the girl , guy's shoulders wider than the girl's, well-fit guy and well-fit girl, fat guy and fat girl, ...etc) : if you are shorter or thinner than the girl , or way fatter than the girl , or too uglier than the girl then you are less likely to be a potential partner and she's more likely to throw you into the "zone".

4- When she brings her female friends to your place or any other place you hang out with.

5- If you are younger or the same age of her : not a sign, but you are more likely to fall in the zone in that case.

6- If you are of another religion/faith/belief : it's true where I live at least.

7- If she's popular: they get fans all the time , so the zoning way is an effective filtering strategy.

8- You are poorer than her :obvious evolutionary reason.

9- When she talks/phones/chats to you only when she needs a favor: A small advice in that case, RUN!


didn't read the thread, but (from my own experiences with girls both who didn't care about me "like that" and those who do)

1) my girlfriend does this all the time. Invalid.

2) This is solid for girls who you are not currently past 1st base on. If there's a girl who you've been with who does this, it might be the result of her "indirectly" telling you what she finds attractive, or what she thinks could make YOU more attractive. Pay attention to this either way.

3) meh at this, I guess I see what you mean, though.

4) This is also solid if you haven't done anything before. As a corollary, if a girl goes out of her way to turn a "alone" activity into a group activity, just give up.

5) Bullcrap. I am 22, my girlfriend of 2 years is 25.

6) This is true for anyone, really. Religion is one of those things that is a lot more important to "match" on that most people think.

7) I thought Aspies didn't really like popular people? This might just be my personal bias, though. It's a valid point either way.

8) This is again true for most cases. If you are poor, you should be worrying a LOT more about making money than finding partners.

9) Amazingly true. A girl who likes you as more than an "emotional tampon" will talk to you by choice a lot more often. If this isn't the case, but you're willing to listen to her problems, holy s**t watch out. If the latter, I highly recommend not talking to her at all.

I'm a bit drunk so take this advice as you will. OP is pretty solid but a bit misguided in spots imo.



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04 Nov 2009, 7:04 am

I always notice with me that girls tend to like me, but they always say "I will find someone", or that "I'll make a girl happy someday" as someone once told me a while ago. What good are those comments when they are talking about someone else. That's how I know I have no chance with someone, when they talk to me about finding someone ELSE and not them.



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04 Nov 2009, 7:54 am

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HH wrote:
Anything else is dishonest, yes. But your expectations are unreasonable in the light of what these women are facing. They have to endlessly guess what response will least likely respond in violence or stalking or both. They are doing the best they can to survive. Their safety is more important than being honest with you.


So in essence what you're saying is that most men, if faced with the truth of the fear the women is feeling, plus the truth that her desire to say whatever she might just to get rid of him is ok, would become violent and stalkerish?


Nope, if you read all of what I wrote instead of cherry-picking, that's clearly not it.

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Or are you saying that most men who are rejected become violent and/or stalkerish if they find out they were lied to as the reason why no contact is wanted?


That's quite obviously not it either.

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Or are you saying she has a right to lie no matter the circumstances, that her fear (inappropriate or misplaced as it may be) justified hurting him by lying, and that in effect his feelings are of no import whatsoever?


That's sort of close. It's not her fear that makes lying ok, it's the well-substantiated facts of the ubiquity of male-on-female violence in our society. Her safety and her best efforts to stay alive are far more important than some cranky dude's fee-fees. If you don't like that, take it up with the guys who wreck it for the rest of you by being violent.

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Or are you saying that women incorrectly perceive all rejected men as potentially violent/potential stalkers?


Quite obviously not. You're just being silly here.

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Me I am the truly nice guy who respects women's right to say no for whatever reason EXCEPT lying in so doing.


And that makes you one of the very scary creepy guys that women should be suspicious of. Thinking your feelings are more important than another's attempts to just survive makes you a pretty nasty character.

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And YES, she owes it to him to tell him IF he makes her feel scared - so he can IMPROVE OR LOGICALLY REBUT IT


Wow, that is one of the most beautiful examples of "this guy is bad news -- stay away" that I've ever seen.



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04 Nov 2009, 7:57 am

polymathpoolplayer wrote:
The irony being that most successful mass murdering men are quite charming, so armed with that knowledge if I were a woman I'd be inclined to think that whoever I was scared of (short of a knife-wielding maniac on PCP) probably was NOT violent just awkward, and that on the contrary the most charming man of all probably WAS dangerous, with evil intentions, because he is a sociopath who knows how to play you, the Sodinis of the world notwithstanding.


Sheesh guys, learn to read, or read up on what a strawman logical fallacy is. C'mon, we're Aspies here, not committing logical fallacies comes easier to us than to anybody.



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04 Nov 2009, 10:35 am

HH wrote:
polymathpoolplayer wrote:
The irony being that most successful mass murdering men are quite charming, so armed with that knowledge if I were a woman I'd be inclined to think that whoever I was scared of (short of a knife-wielding maniac on PCP) probably was NOT violent just awkward, and that on the contrary the most charming man of all probably WAS dangerous, with evil intentions, because he is a sociopath who knows how to play you, the Sodinis of the world notwithstanding.


Sheesh guys, learn to read, or read up on what a strawman logical fallacy is. C'mon, we're Aspies here, not committing logical fallacies comes easier to us than to anybody.


LOL, :lol: :lol: :lol:


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