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29 Nov 2010, 2:30 am

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Bio, I urge you to make two profiles on okcupid:

1.)One with a picture of yourself and stating that you're looking for no strings attached sex, and see which women respond.

2,)Find a picture of a very unattractive woman...overweight, really bad looking face...hell, even say on the profile that she has kids and is separated...but that she's looking for sex...and see the kind of guys that respond to her. My friend is above average looking and has sex with these type of women. Even they have options. In fact, one of his former f*** buddies would go up to attractive men on the street and flat-out ask them if they wanted sex later that day, and she'd bring home guys left and right.

In other words, you'd actually be lucky just to get no strings attached with the bottom of the barrel.

It's up to you...you can continue these "I'll find a good looking girl that understands me and gives me pity sex" fantasies, or you can listen to people who have been there and know the dating game better than you do.

No quality woman is going to want a guy that never wants a relationship at any point, seems to hate women and doesn't have super model looks to back it up.


The issue is, as I said above, how in the world do you reconcile this with the women here who say they NEVER get sexual interest in them? Basically, you are saying that these women are below the bottom of the barrel, and I'm sure they would object to that.


What they really mean is they don't get guys who are into them for more than just a "pump and dump".

"For on the seventh day God created Eve and then God created fat girls so that Adam may have something to practice on." :twisted:

Just kidding!


Bingo. Even the promiscuous women want to be appreciated. I sent a message to a very attractive cougar on a dating site, and we started talking about tv shows and music and realized we had a lot in common...eventually she said something like "well we obviously aren't going to get married" then she basically proposed "seeing each other"...dating without the relationship drama, hanging out, dinner, sex and so on. (And yes she's real, we exchanged facebooks and talked on the phone. And yes, nothing has happened yet, but I did describe myself very accurately...told her I was awkward and quirky but outgoing at the same time, so she knows what she's getting.) I asked her what about me stood out...she said that not only when I talked to her, I had an actual conversation, but that when she suggested the fun relationship, I was interested in the hanging out/dinner part, too, not just the sex. And she said she responded to my initial message in the first place because she saw my pics and thought I was cute.

So that leaves 2 things:

1.)Woman is physically attracted to you.
2.)You have an ability to converse with her and aren't all about just the sex (or you're some sleazy player that is great at faking a connection to get what he wants.)

Why guys like Bio refuse to understand that women don't want to be used solely for their bodies is beyond me.



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29 Nov 2010, 3:16 am

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...a pattern in her life where she is sexually or romantically attracted to a majority of the men who show any interest in her, yet the guys all see her as no more than a friend, and this causes frustration? Women seem to complain endlessly when men report their lives following such a pattern, but I think this is partly because almost no woman is ever in that position. Though I'm welcome to be proven wrong.


I have been in that position, but with one difference: the guy not seeing me as a friend, but a potential fwb rather than a potential girlfriend.


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29 Nov 2010, 3:26 am

Why don't you get to know some hookers as friends then pay them for sex. (OP)



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29 Nov 2010, 4:11 am

The OP doesn't realize that if women choose to have casual sex (intentional casual sex, not being tricked into sex) they're the ones doing the using, not the other way around. They decided they wanted casual sex and chose a guy that they were interested in.

I'm flat-out disgusted, even as a guy that wants sex, by the OP. Even when I had a panic attack on here a couple months ago over not having casual sex, I wanted a rapport with it and looked at the potential partner as a person (some unintentional alliteration there) not an object.

You want to experiment with a woman's body with no concern for her as a person? Get a real doll or pay a hooker and tell her exactly what you want to do.



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29 Nov 2010, 7:05 am

If a woman wants a man then just make it clear to him that you will marry him and be loyal to him.

Tell him that you will bear his children and keep his house.

Tell him that you will nurse him when he is sick and stand beside him in difficult times.

If you can do that then 90% of the single men in the world would marry you tomorrow.

You don't have to be beautiful. You don't need a university degree. You just have to be a "real woman" and stand by your man.



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29 Nov 2010, 8:54 am

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If a woman wants a man then just make it clear to him that you will marry him and be loyal to him.

Tell him that you will bear his children and keep his house.

Tell him that you will nurse him when he is sick and stand beside him in difficult times.

If you can do that then 90% of the single men in the world would marry you tomorrow.

You don't have to be beautiful. You don't need a university degree. You just have to be a "real woman" and stand by your man.

not true (i bolded the most important part). in fact, most men will reject a woman who tells him outright that she wants to get married. you seem to be getting men and women mixed up, because far more women would find this appealing than men.


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29 Nov 2010, 12:36 pm

zen_mistress wrote:
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...a pattern in her life where she is sexually or romantically attracted to a majority of the men who show any interest in her, yet the guys all see her as no more than a friend, and this causes frustration? Women seem to complain endlessly when men report their lives following such a pattern, but I think this is partly because almost no woman is ever in that position. Though I'm welcome to be proven wrong.


I have been in that position, but with one difference: the guy not seeing me as a friend, but a potential fwb rather than a potential girlfriend.


That's the opposite of the situation I was talking about, the one that I've heard many times. I was asking about the situation where the guy sees her as just a friend, and the woman sees him as a potential FWB or girlfriend.



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29 Nov 2010, 2:17 pm

Wombat wrote:
If a woman wants a man then just make it clear to him that you will marry him and be loyal to him.

Tell him that you will bear his children and keep his house.

Tell him that you will nurse him when he is sick and stand beside him in difficult times.

If you can do that then 90% of the single men in the world would marry you tomorrow.

You don't have to be beautiful. You don't need a university degree. You just have to be a "real woman" and stand by your man.


That is the most hilarious thing I have read in a long time.


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29 Nov 2010, 2:20 pm

biostructure wrote:
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...a pattern in her life where she is sexually or romantically attracted to a majority of the men who show any interest in her, yet the guys all see her as no more than a friend, and this causes frustration? Women seem to complain endlessly when men report their lives following such a pattern, but I think this is partly because almost no woman is ever in that position. Though I'm welcome to be proven wrong.


I have been in that position, but with one difference: the guy not seeing me as a friend, but a potential fwb rather than a potential girlfriend.


That's the opposite of the situation I was talking about, the one that I've heard many times. I was asking about the situation where the guy sees her as just a friend, and the woman sees him as a potential FWB or girlfriend.


this is the equivalent- wanting to be in a relationship with a man, and realising he only regards you as a casual partner at best. You might as well be a blow up doll, for all he cares.


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01 Dec 2010, 8:52 am

biostructure wrote:
...a pattern in her life where she is sexually or romantically attracted to a majority of the men who show any interest in her, yet the guys all see her as no more than a friend, and this causes frustration? Women seem to complain endlessly when men report their lives following such a pattern, but I think this is partly because almost no woman is ever in that position. Though I'm welcome to be proven wrong.

I'm wondering what leads you to assert that all or most women always have men who are attracted to them.
Many women would laugh at that statement, and as an ugly woman who repulses men BEFORE having even said a word that hints at my extreme Aspergian social ineptitude, I find it all the more ridiculous. Even many women without Aspergers or Autism see periods of their life (if not their entire lives) where they go virtually unnoticed by the opposite sex, if they are ranked as average or below looks-wise by men.
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The issue is, as I said above, how in the world do you reconcile this with the women here who say they NEVER get sexual interest in them? Basically, you are saying that these women are below the bottom of the barrel, and I'm sure they would object to that.

I would suggest that the "sexual interest" ugly women get is NOT sexual interest IN THEM-
it is in having sex, period, with something that breathes.

Incomparable to the adoration and near-awe that beautiful women are lavished with when they are actively pursued by men.
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If a woman wants a man then just make it clear to him that you will marry him and be loyal to him.
Tell him that you will bear his children and keep his house.
Tell him that you will nurse him when he is sick and stand beside him in difficult times.
If you can do that then 90% of the single men in the world would marry you tomorrow.
You don't have to be beautiful. You don't need a university degree. You just have to be a "real woman" and stand by your man.

Been watching too many Disney movies, I see.
"When you wish upon a star....
makes no difference who you are!
Anything your heart desires
will come to you!"
~Pinnochio~


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01 Dec 2010, 12:17 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
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If a woman wants a man then just make it clear to him that you will marry him and be loyal to him.

Tell him that you will bear his children and keep his house.

Tell him that you will nurse him when he is sick and stand beside him in difficult times.

If you can do that then 90% of the single men in the world would marry you tomorrow.

You don't have to be beautiful. You don't need a university degree. You just have to be a "real woman" and stand by your man.

not true (i bolded the most important part). in fact, most men will reject a woman who tells him outright that she wants to get married. you seem to be getting men and women mixed up, because far more women would find this appealing than men.

I'd give her my senior class ring if I knew she was serious & not some scammer/con-artist


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01 Dec 2010, 3:10 pm

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If a woman wants a man then just make it clear to him that you will marry him and be loyal to him.

Tell him that you will bear his children and keep his house.

Tell him that you will nurse him when he is sick and stand beside him in difficult times.

If you can do that then 90% of the single men in the world would marry you tomorrow.

You don't have to be beautiful. You don't need a university degree. You just have to be a "real woman" and stand by your man.

not true (i bolded the most important part). in fact, most men will reject a woman who tells him outright that she wants to get married. you seem to be getting men and women mixed up, because far more women would find this appealing than men.

I'd give her my senior class ring if I knew she was serious & not some scammer/con-artist

but do you think that your attitude is the majority? i doubt it, though that would be an interesting poll.


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05 Dec 2010, 5:41 pm

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I would suggest that the "sexual interest" ugly women get is NOT sexual interest IN THEM-
it is in having sex, period, with something that breathes.

Incomparable to the adoration and near-awe that beautiful women are lavished with when they are actively pursued by men.


So the former doesn't count as sexual interest, but the latter is? And how about women who want sex, period, with something that breathes? Do those exist?

I think that's kind of the point, we often don't even get that kind of attention. Even if we are decent looking and nice to people.



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07 Dec 2010, 6:24 pm

biostructure wrote:
Bethie wrote:
I would suggest that the "sexual interest" ugly women get is NOT sexual interest IN THEM-
it is in having sex, period, with something that breathes.

Incomparable to the adoration and near-awe that beautiful women are lavished with when they are actively pursued by men.


So the former doesn't count as sexual interest, but the latter is? And how about women who want sex, period, with something that breathes? Do those exist?

I think that's kind of the point, we often don't even get that kind of attention. Even if we are decent looking and nice to people.


I wa differentiing between
sexual interest in a woman
and interest in sex that is satisfied with whatever woman is available

And I don't think most fat/ugly women get an opportunity for sex all that often, either, if ever,
but I also don't see women WANTING casual no-string-attached sex to the extent some men do,
so it's an apples and oranges comparison.


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07 Dec 2010, 7:09 pm

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Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by "awful, creepy men". If you mean overgrown weird facial hair, missing teeth, possibly contagious skin infections, strong alcohol smell, etc., then I totally understand why getting randomly hit on by those type of men would put you off. If you just mean men who look average and want sex without strings attached, then that's a quite different story.

i think people mean men who don't want to wash, or who don't brush their teeth, for example. or who ONLY want sex when the woman wants more - that is creepy in and of itself.



Let me know if I'm interpreting this correctly...would another way to say weird and creepy be men who take care of themselves?



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NoraTypical wrote:
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by "awful, creepy men". If you mean overgrown weird facial hair, missing teeth, possibly contagious skin infections, strong alcohol smell, etc., then I totally understand why getting randomly hit on by those type of men would put you off. If you just mean men who look average and want sex without strings attached, then that's a quite different story.

i think people mean men who don't want to wash, or who don't brush their teeth, for example. or who ONLY want sex when the woman wants more - that is creepy in and of itself.



Let me know if I'm interpreting this correctly...would another way to say weird and creepy be men who take care of themselves?
i bolded the important part - it's the exact opposite of what you said.


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