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Ironically, all of this talk/debate about the so-called "PUA" community has actually convinced me that it has some merit - I certainly couldn't do any worse than I am now.

I used to categorically reject it...

You don't even have to join the community. All they do is bring you up to speed with basic-to-advanced social skills, and how to use it in dating/seduction. Whether you want to use it for good or bad is your prerogative. A community is filled with many people, so it's not as black and white as it seems, there are many shades of grey.

For some good material, check out Carlos Xuma, he is very very good.

Thanks for the tip.

I certainly don't intend to use it for evil, I like women and would actually like to have the opportunity to try and make one happy, and if this helps, then why not?

It should help. I haven't met any PUAs personally (I do want to meet Vercetti though, I hear he's awesome). So I'm coming at it from the point of view that there are areas of self-improvement that are highly beneficial, not just in terms of dating, but just your social life in general.

Couple of things, although I'm glad to see some sympathies being expressed toward some individuals in the PU community. I would certainly hope that a forum titled "Wrong Planet" would be extra sensitive toward ostracizing individuals for choosing different paths in life.

As MountZion correctly points out, you don't have to "join the community" to benefit from the social skills being taught here. In reality, there's no "community" to join, there's no application you need to submit, or hazing process you need to go through before you are "the community." It's not a cult, period, it's just a resource of information that you can dive into, discarding some of the information, while accepting the stuff that works for you.

Really love reading ALL of these thoughts, mentioning Pick-Up stuff always seems to strike up passionate debates.

Agreed. I've had a chance to review some of the more popular literature on the subject and it definitely has the potential to be used for "good" as well as "evil" (for lack of a better term).

I think it might be especially helpful in situations where a women feels compelled to "friend zone" an otherwise terrific guy because he just doesn't make her feel the way she needs to
feel in order to develop romantic attachment. If the guy can manage to generate these feelings in her through understanding gained from the PUA literature, then it's win-win for everyone involved...

why use the information at all when other self-help programs would work just as well? i don't really understand why it would be necessary to buy into a program that promotes the manipulation (and sometimes abuse) of women at its core when there are so many other effective books to buy.

if this is truly just social skills training, then it seems like people should buy books that teach social skills. these programs have the added layer of *trying* to teach men to become masterful users, which is distasteful and disrespectful at the very core.

if i wanted to learn to be a politician, i wouldn't focus my attention on books that primarily teach me how to screw over foreign diplomats.

Well put. And I can definitely relate.



To put it simply, I haven't seen any other self-help programs that match a lot of the content in the PU community. To my knowledge, there are no other teachings and philosophies that match the clarity I've gotten from guys like Johnny Soporno, Hypnotica, Steve P., Davie DeAngelo, Ross Jeffries, Chase, and heck, even Mystery and Style. I read a lot of stuff all over the personal development sphere, and these are the resources that helped me the most.

But what social skills training books would you recommend in particular?

there are so many, a person needs to pick something designed for their needs. for me, "Body Language for Dummies" was a starting place, and now i am reading "The Rules of Work" to help me at work.

old standards like Dale Carnegie have been proven effective, also.

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well, that's the whole point. It's SUPPOSED to backfire, so that way she doesn't hang onto you, and you can move onto the next hot babe with minimal interference. The only problem is, often the type of people that go for that sort of thing are so glad she got attention that she won't let you go. But that just comes with the territory.