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Would you date a guy because he has a fancy car?
I'll do 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
indifferent 45%  45%  [ 25 ]
I am not female/or gay. 54%  54%  [ 30 ]
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03 Apr 2012, 11:56 pm

i can't bear to watch it... :pale:


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04 Apr 2012, 12:17 am

As a car fanatic (my special interest), I collect and race some very rare cars. However, if I were going out on a first date, I would rent a Honda or something like that. I wouldn't want a woman to like me any more or less because of my cars. That said, ultimately we'd have to deal with the fact that it is a special interest... and hopefully one that she can live with. :D


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04 Apr 2012, 4:30 am

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women AREN'T more attracted to a man's survival value. women do not depend on men for survival, nor have they done so for most of human prehistory. there are people who are attracted to wealth for personal or cultural reasons, but it is not biological.

personal qualities are not manifested in material wealth either - thankfully most people know this quite clearly.


I agree with the other user who used the peacock feather example.

You are failing to understand that 'wealth' was manifested in a totally different form in the prehistory, sure there were no real assets and currency back then but it could be manifested in the number of deer the caveman could hunt.


And there ARE studies that contradict what you're claiming:



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A British study showed a positive correlation between men with greater resources and greater reproductive success (Nettle and Pollet, 2008). This was not only true of men of industrial societies, but of hunting and gathering societies, as well. In polygynous African societies, men of greater wealth can afford to take more wives resulting in greater reproductive success.

Read more: http://www.infobarrel.com/Factors_In_Hu ... z1r3tqGbm6


ahh and since we're talking about cars:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/504 ... -cars.html


I REALLY LOLED at this woman's comment there:

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Is there anyone out there who has an Aston One 77? I'm yours... but you have to be in possession of your faculties... rich enough to run the car, not too ugly...sense of humour and of course, not shallow....


She's either a big hypocrite or a man trolling....



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04 Apr 2012, 4:43 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC1_GD7WZ2M&feature=related[/youtube] This is the car I have only its a black coupe I bought on Craigs list for 1100 hehe currently shes not running though due to overheating issues and the battery is dead at the moment once I get the money to get the heater hoses changed the the battary changed she will be good to go. Its not super duper fancy but I like her.


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04 Apr 2012, 5:38 am

Boo, if I was smart (which I'm not), I would have used the 50K or so I have spent buying (18K) and working on the 180 and brought something much better.

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I don't know, once people get to know me, my car hobby just becomes another "man he talks about ____ too damned much." I mean people find it useful and think I'm a magician because I can like change their brake pads, but yeah. But for me, in some ways, it's another thing that isolates me from people, as not too many people I know are into cars, nor do they wanna conversate about cars very much.

But yeah, cars are sweet.

Sweet 560SEL, B9. Cool! And Kjas, 180SXs are kinda fancy. It shows some class, that you bought one over like...a Sentra. Plus you could buy a RB26 Skyline motor and defeat all your car racing enemies with it. I kinda wish I got a S13 over my MKII Supra, but MKII Supras do look cooler, but an S13 has such easier to find parts...


Oh I know what you mean. It's great when you change their battery but otherwise …
I don't really know anyone who is into cars except for my housemate and I was the one who got him into cars in the first place (by accident of course). It does not help when you're a girl and the guys who do know something treat you like an airhead.

I got it after someone I knew gave me a ride in theirs. I was hooked and got interested in cars and drifting. Then I bought my old thing and started souping it up for that. Most people around here like to drag though. Doesn't make sense as there are some awesome mountain rounds which are perfect for drifting.

B9, yours looks nice. I'd like to drive a 560 SEL someday just to see what it's like.

Smudge, I believe both Boo and Wolf are capable of being reasonable.

I find the evolutionary theory interesting. Based from what I see in real life, the guys who display traits that would help them survive and prosper certainly do attract more women. Question becomes whether it is sociological or evolutionary becomes the question. My best guess would be bits of both to different extents, depending on the person in question?

I suspect most aspie women would be more inclined to reason it out and conclude that a fancy car is no real guarantee of anything in a guy since guys buy cars for different reasons, hence probably the answers you are getting here.


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04 Apr 2012, 6:28 am

Women aren't completely dependent on men nor are men completely dependent on women. However both tend choose mates that show in various ways that they will be a good parent and ensure the survival of their offspring. It's been studied at length and is clearly apparent in the animal kingom. Not sure why this is even a debate.


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04 Apr 2012, 6:40 am

hyperlexian wrote:
women AREN'T more attracted to a man's survival value. women do not depend on men for survival, nor have they done so for most of human prehistory. there are people who are attracted to wealth for personal or cultural reasons, but it is not biological.

personal qualities are not manifested in material wealth either - thankfully most people know this quite clearly.


Oh?
Personal qualities such as intelligence, drive, competitiveness, social savvy?
At our most basic levels we are just organisms competing to survive, replicate, and ensure future offspring share that same success, this is the root of all motivation.
Wealth is just a current manifestation relevant to the times.
We may philosophize and romanticize all we like, but wishing reality was some idealistic fantasy will not make it so, in fact reality is fascinating and beautiful as it is.

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Women aren't completely dependent on men nor are men completely dependent on women. However both tend choose mates that show in various ways that they will be a good parent and ensure the survival of their offspring. It's been studied at length and is clearly apparent in the animal kingom. Not sure why this is even a debate.


I agree 100%. What I'm saying is women are wired to be primarily attracted to different things than men, and that happens to be mainly a man's survival value.


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04 Apr 2012, 6:54 am

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She did come off as joking to me. I was one of the other females to comment on Alex and his car and as a female, I would like to say that no, I would not date someone with the intention of being able to ride in their car or whatever pish-posh motives you believe us females seem to have had. It was merely a joke and I can see that OliveOilMom and I were simply cracking a joke at pin-brained girls who have no intention of maintaining a relationship with a member of the opposite sex, if only for the possibilities of gaining a "sugar daddy" as some may say.

Basically, it was a joke. Take it how you see it, but that is how the original statements were intended.


Why do you assume they're stupid? People who don't have morals aren't more prone to stupidity.


Why did you make the assumption that I was assuming gold diggers are stupid? Does it really matter so much as to start a whole other irrelevant discussion?


Oooh, a "whole other irrelevant discussion"? Sor-ry. You said the word pin-brained. Does that not mean stupid?



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04 Apr 2012, 6:57 am

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Smudge, I believe both Boo and Wolf are capable of being reasonable.


I never said they were incapable of it, I don't understand you.



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04 Apr 2012, 9:01 am

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I've always been pretty indifferent to cars, although it's useful if someone has a car and can drive it as I think that's an achievement in itself (one I hope to one day achieve). As far as types of cars go, I like practicality over unnecessary showiness, that's the type of car I'd buy - a practical car that was good value for money. There's not much point in buying a car for what it looks like because 99% of cars look ugly irrespective and the 1% that actually are more visually pleasing than the rest are way too expensive to be affordable by the normal population.

As far as buying a car because of what brand it is, it's the same as buying a clothing item because of a brand label on it when you can buy a clothing item identical in appearance without the brand label for a fraction of the price. You're basically paying for an arbitrary social symbol, which in my opinion is the equivalent of flushing several grand (well a lot more than that really) down the toilet.


Exactly, as long as the car can go from one point to the next, that's the main purpose, however you must be able to appreciate mechanical aptitude and why different designs might appeal to different people, it is a matter of perspective. I think someone with mechanical aptitude can be impressive if they have an understanding and dedication towards learning about a specific car or means of transport.

If someone devotes hours to designing and building a car, is it as impressive to me as someone who spends hours designing a piece of art or architecture? Is it as impressive as someone that has a dedication towards a particular sport or in your case, a musical instrument? Of course not, however to someone with good mechanical aptitude and understanding, it might be.


You make a good point actually, I would definitely agree about how designing and building would be equivalent to some other art form. I think I refer more to somebody who has no knowledge or interest in that side of things but has bought the car due to it's make/name alone.


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04 Apr 2012, 9:07 am

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Women aren't completely dependent on men nor are men completely dependent on women. However both tend choose mates that show in various ways that they will be a good parent and ensure the survival of their offspring. It's been studied at length and is clearly apparent in the animal kingom. Not sure why this is even a debate.


Then how do you explain women who are in abusive relationships or women who couple with men who cannot financially provide? How do you explain the high populations among those in poverty? It takes 2 to tangle. These statistics aren't very reliable of the overall human population who don't fit into this neat little study.


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04 Apr 2012, 9:23 am

Did you read the word "tend" in that sentance? Trends =/= absolute truth.

Human society, in many ways, has come up with ways to quote unquote "overcome" natural selection. Most people (rich & poor, ugly & attractive, smart & stupid) are able to find a mate somewhere and breed if they so choose. Humans no longer live by the "survival of the fittest" rule. But the base instincts are still there on some level.


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04 Apr 2012, 9:40 am

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Most people around here like to drag though. Doesn't make sense as there are some awesome mountain rounds which are perfect for drifting.


such a shame puertoricans have all the drag racing rotary records 8)
but i agree on the good roads part. It makes sense for competitive drifting to have started in japan not because of their culture, since rally drivers had been going sideways for decades, but because the conditions and cars allowed it to be done by many.



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04 Apr 2012, 10:06 am

myth wrote:
Did you read the word "tend" in that sentance? Trends =/= absolute truth.

Human society, in many ways, has come up with ways to quote unquote "overcome" natural selection. Most people (rich & poor, ugly & attractive, smart & stupid) are able to find a mate somewhere and breed if they so choose. Humans no longer live by the "survival of the fittest" rule. But the base instincts are still there on some level.


No longer live by survival of the fittest rule? Please explain because you make it sound as if human society not nature is responsible for overcoming "rules of attraction". I don't deny that there is some truth to what you stated but this rule is certainly subjective when it comes to attraction in a partner vs societal expectations due to standards of living.


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04 Apr 2012, 10:20 am

I don't understand your question. We no longer live by the survival of the fittest because society has been structured so that even "weaker" or "defective" humans can survive as opposed to the "wild" where less desirable (desirable = more likely to produce healthy offspring who live and go on to reproduce on their own) traits would eventually phase out due to them not producing as many offspring.

What do you mean by "nature" ?

Also, how do you define "attraction" ?


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04 Apr 2012, 10:31 am

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I don't understand your question. We no longer live by the survival of the fittest because society has been structured so that even "weaker" or "defective" humans can survive as opposed to the "wild" where less desirable (desirable = more likely to produce healthy offspring who live and go on to reproduce on their own) traits would eventually phase out due to them not producing as many offspring.

What do you mean by "nature" ?


Nature as opposed to human society. And what I'm asking is, what do you mean when you say we no longer live by the survivial of the fittest? I mean what was life like during the cave days? Did women depend that much on men as much as men depended on women as far as mating was concerned? I don't disagree that we now live in a society where life expectancy isn't cut short for the "weaker" or that we are having to live like hunters and gathers but in terms of attraction, what IS natural and what ISN'T? Survival of the fittest can mean anything ie adaptability.


EDIT: as much as men depended on women not men... :o


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