Is not having friends a turn off?

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It is necessary, when the claim is about every member of a class of people, that the supporting evidence control for all related variables.

It used to be thought, for instance, that sexual attraction was a fundamental human experience,
and research into the benefits of sexual activity to this day presumes that participants experience some degree of sexual attraction.
And because of this presumption, as opposed to controlling for all possible variables,
IE, the idea that some people AREN'T wired this way,
the findings can't be extrapolated to everyone-
it CAN'T be claimed that the positive benefits from sex are universal to all people,
because researchers failed to make sure to include asexuals specifically, and compare their responses to a sexual control-
it certainly stands to reason that the experience of sex to an asexual would present very differently physically and psychologically.

Those who for whatever reason aren't desirous of friends as the majority of people seem to be are being overlooked in a similar way when studies fail to examine their responses specifically.

All that can be in good conscience claimed is that:
"Among X class, where A, B, C, D, but NOT E are controlled for, Y behavior has positive benefits

well, you're making a claim that you don't need friends and are not pleased to be judged on not having friends. however, you don't have anything to support that assertion. your only argument is that... you don't want them. people don't always act in their own best interests so that is not really a valid argument.

if you don't want friends, that's fine. nobody will force you. but it is not reasonable to expect that people would overlook that fact when deciding whether to date you.

now that i think of it... do you have friends that you talk to online?

I've made no claims, so I need no evidence.


I've simply asked a dozen times for evidence of claims you've made- studies which account for all relevant variables,
IE, that there is a singular dynamic between all humankind and the notion of friendship, that being one with positive benefits.


Done.

No. I used to try to engage some people I knew from theatre in debate on Facebook, but that wasn't successful.
I've never really gotten the notion of "friendship", per se. As I've said...

The forums here constitute the whole of any socialization I might have, now that the boyfriend's on a work trip,
apart from family gatherings on holidays.

And that's fine.

Wait...does a grumpy fat tom cat count?
Actually, he ignores me, usually, too. So nvm.

these are some of your claims:

these are assertions.

This is an argument from definition.
You can't make claims about the entirety of a group if you fail to isolate variables relevant to the conclusion drawn.
This is getting ridiculous.


This is an expression of skepticism...IE, an INVITATION FOR ACTUAL EVIDENCE OF CLAIMS MADE.


Communication =/= friendship drive is a claim that needs evidencing?


Right, so another expression of skepticism of claims made by...you.


"I'm not convinced, and nothing you've shown accounts for the relevant variable which includes me" isn't a claim, no matter how you try to phrase it as such. Not playing the violin isn't a hobby, nor is bald a hair color.

Has anything I've said about the importance of
isolating non-normative groups when making claims about them, undifferentiated from the whole,
sunken in?

Curious.

Hmm most of my friends are women now that I think about it.....I have like only four close guy friends and over 18 female friends

I am better at macking friends with girl's cause we get to have a girl's day put on make up and talk about boys

I love going shopping with girls to it can be so much fun shopping with my brother is soo boring.

I identify more with men. I've been looking into something akin to the "male lesbian" concept, only for women.

If I still had my ex girlfriends number you would be the perfect friend for her then.

I really, really don't get along with women, usually. I don't know what it is. I feel as if I would be judged completely differently, having the exact same mannerisms, if I was male.

I have more female friends than males. I make a good platonic male friend. Though I was not allowed to speak to most of them during my last relationship, so I have become estranged with some of them in the time since

I am that way with guys I don't know how to act around them at all.

essentially, you haven't given me any reason to believe that people who don't WANT any friends don't NEED any friends, so i feel comfortable in the conclusion that friends are necessary to all people. after all, by default they would have been included in the studies i posted.

and... here is a study that included people who were not open to making friends:

https://camcom.ngu.edu/Science/PSYC/PSY ... riends.pdf

the authors created an "Openness to Friendships Scale" to evaluate that factor.

hahaha, study is 4 years old

get it 4

nothing...... oh well
anyway good study, allthough could have the result been alittle skewed due to making people do things they normaly don't do? Kinda like asking a vegan to eat meat and ask them later how did they like it.

Last edited by Zinnel on 09 Apr 2012, 10:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

what?

Hey don't mock my WP mother.